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martin
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6/3/2008  1:15 PM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by 4949:

Well, just look in the mare and ask yourself. 'Was it really worth being so nasty about the whole affair the last several months? Supporters could've run on obama's character alone. It's too late for both of us, I'm afraid.

And that is the first negative video I seen against obama, to tell you the truth.

You'll see what happens.

I dont know what to tell you. Again I havent seen the level of negative rhetoric from the Obama camp and base, that I have seen from the other side.

Clinton supporters need to grow up and stop being such sore losers. I'm talking about the reasonable, yet overly emotional ones. The racist ones can fall on something sharp for all I care.

Hatred!

4949. Pull this crap again and I got a lock for you.
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izybx
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6/3/2008  4:40 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by 4949:
Posted by Silverfuel:

what attack? she is proving how you are badly misinformed

You don't even know who I'm talking about, do you?

And now you have to be nasty and say I'm 'badly misinformed'? Your about to see just how lucky you've been.
You are calling me nasty but did you see all the dirty comments izybx made about me? I said you guys are misinformed and gave proof and told you guys how to find more proof. izybx had that teenage girl pissy fit calling me everything from fake to stupid and gave no real reply to any of my posts. Yeah dude, the nasty attacks come from both sides so its pointless to cry about them. It comes with the territory in a politically charged debate.

Just tell me what I posted about McCain is wrong and we'll go from there.

I never said that you were fake or stupid bro! I have absolutey no problem with you, I just disagree with you %100 and was amused by what I probably misinterpreted as arrogance in your posts. Reread what I wrote and you will not find one personal insult in there. What you will find is me laughing at you
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izybx
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6/3/2008  4:41 PM
Liberals= enlightened
Conservatives= misinformed
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izybx
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6/3/2008  4:47 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Silverfuel:

wow izybx, you really take things personal don't you? But thats ok. You are really passionate about being conservative so I'll leave it at that. You are going to vote republican so I am not going to bother convincing you.

Great post. About a third of the country will vote Republican and a third Democrat no matter what. They will spin every issue in favor of their candidate. There is no point in even arguing with them.

Fair enough,, but you guys put yourselves in this equation as well. Are we really going to all cut and paste articles and post youtube videos at each other as if we can change each others minds? The tone of some of you guys is laughable as you refer to people that disagree with you as uninformed and spinning issues. You dont think that you fellas are doing the same thing?
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6/4/2008  2:41 PM
I think you've illustrated why Clinton backers act the way they do. It's not Obama, but his supporters. You guys split. Obama is the next coming of MLK, Gandhi Jesus and Buddha. Anyone who opposes him is a racist, ignorant manipulative jerk off. It'a amazing, you look at the sites like the DailyKos (and UK) and see people who probably once were eating out of her hand totally trashing Clinton because she's running against Obama.
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by 4949:

Here's the Rev. Michael Pflegen showing class. He's the reason obama finally had to quit his church. And you have to agree, doesn't help his cause at all. People laugh at this, but this is pretty offensive to many. I think it's stuff like this that set the woman off in the above video.



Yeah right. I'm sure there is some sort of excuse for her racism. There always is an excuse when it comes to Hillary and her supporters. Pfleger was pretty much spot on in his analysis. He's a good man. I love how white people try to act like they have been the ones victimized by racism and oppression all these years.

Anyway, this is a comment by one man loosely associated with Obama. I didnt see Hagee being so closely associated with McCain even though McCain sought out his endorsement. In any event, the emphasis on meaningless wedge issues like this and typical divisiveness are some of the reasons why this country is in such a serious rut.

Whatever happened to the economy and Iraq?

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6/4/2008  3:22 PM
Posted by nykshaknbake:

I think you've illustrated why Clinton backers act the way they do. It's not Obama, but his supporters. You guys split. Obama is the next coming of MLK, Gandhi Jesus and Buddha. Anyone who opposes him is a racist, ignorant manipulative jerk off. It'a amazing, you look at the sites like the DailyKos (and UK) and see people who probably once were eating out of her hand totally trashing Clinton because she's running against Obama.
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by 4949:

Here's the Rev. Michael Pflegen showing class. He's the reason obama finally had to quit his church. And you have to agree, doesn't help his cause at all. People laugh at this, but this is pretty offensive to many. I think it's stuff like this that set the woman off in the above video.



Yeah right. I'm sure there is some sort of excuse for her racism. There always is an excuse when it comes to Hillary and her supporters. Pfleger was pretty much spot on in his analysis. He's a good man. I love how white people try to act like they have been the ones victimized by racism and oppression all these years.

Anyway, this is a comment by one man loosely associated with Obama. I didnt see Hagee being so closely associated with McCain even though McCain sought out his endorsement. In any event, the emphasis on meaningless wedge issues like this and typical divisiveness are some of the reasons why this country is in such a serious rut.

Whatever happened to the economy and Iraq?
Supporters are always enthusiastic about their candidate and derogatory toward others. That's nothing new here. That's a poor reason to base one's attitude toward the candidate on. The candidate, not his supporters, are running for office.
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6/4/2008  3:51 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by 4949:
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by 4949:

Well, just look in the mare and ask yourself. 'Was it really worth being so nasty about the whole affair the last several months? Supporters could've run on obama's character alone. It's too late for both of us, I'm afraid.

And that is the first negative video I seen against obama, to tell you the truth.

You'll see what happens.

I dont know what to tell you. Again I havent seen the level of negative rhetoric from the Obama camp and base, that I have seen from the other side.

Clinton supporters need to grow up and stop being such sore losers. I'm talking about the reasonable, yet overly emotional ones. The racist ones can fall on something sharp for all I care.

Hatred!

4949. Pull this crap again and I got a lock for you.

What do you mean Martin?

I highlighted hated comments. I don't care who made them. I would of highlighted anyones hated comments. I was trying to point out the unnecessary hatred that's been going on out there. I didn't get nasty with anyone and tried to be fair in my comments and tried to speak reasonably.

I'm not sure what your talking about here, but if you don't like my politics, then that's fine.

You shock me Martin! Why didn't you just ask me what I meant or tell me what the problem was?

You didn't have to threaten me!
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6/4/2008  4:05 PM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by martin:
Posted by 4949:
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by 4949:

Well, just look in the mare and ask yourself. 'Was it really worth being so nasty about the whole affair the last several months? Supporters could've run on obama's character alone. It's too late for both of us, I'm afraid.

And that is the first negative video I seen against obama, to tell you the truth.

You'll see what happens.

I dont know what to tell you. Again I havent seen the level of negative rhetoric from the Obama camp and base, that I have seen from the other side.

Clinton supporters need to grow up and stop being such sore losers. I'm talking about the reasonable, yet overly emotional ones. The racist ones can fall on something sharp for all I care.

Hatred!

4949. Pull this crap again and I got a lock for you.

What do you mean Martin?

I highlighted hated comments. I don't care who made them. I would of highlighted anyones hated comments. I was trying to point out the unnecessary hatred that's been going on out there. I didn't get nasty with anyone and tried to be fair in my comments and tried to speak reasonably.

I'm not sure what your talking about here, but if you don't like my politics, then that's fine.

You shock me Martin! Why didn't you just ask me what I meant or tell me what the problem was?

You didn't have to threaten me!

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[Edited by - izybx on 04-06-2008 4:05 PM]
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4949
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6/4/2008  5:13 PM
I gotta admit izzy, that's pretty funny.
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6/4/2008  5:44 PM
Posted by 4949:

I gotta admit izzy, that's pretty funny.

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martin
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6/4/2008  6:03 PM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by martin:
Posted by 4949:
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by 4949:

Well, just look in the mare and ask yourself. 'Was it really worth being so nasty about the whole affair the last several months? Supporters could've run on obama's character alone. It's too late for both of us, I'm afraid.

And that is the first negative video I seen against obama, to tell you the truth.

You'll see what happens.

I dont know what to tell you. Again I havent seen the level of negative rhetoric from the Obama camp and base, that I have seen from the other side.

Clinton supporters need to grow up and stop being such sore losers. I'm talking about the reasonable, yet overly emotional ones. The racist ones can fall on something sharp for all I care.

Hatred!

4949. Pull this crap again and I got a lock for you.

What do you mean Martin?

I highlighted hated comments. I don't care who made them. I would of highlighted anyones hated comments. I was trying to point out the unnecessary hatred that's been going on out there. I didn't get nasty with anyone and tried to be fair in my comments and tried to speak reasonably.

I'm not sure what your talking about here, but if you don't like my politics, then that's fine.

You shock me Martin! Why didn't you just ask me what I meant or tell me what the problem was?

You didn't have to threaten me!

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6/4/2008  6:05 PM
I think you've illustrated why Clinton backers act the way they do. It's not Obama, but his supporters. You guys split. Obama is the next coming of MLK, Gandhi Jesus and Buddha. Anyone who opposes him is a racist, ignorant manipulative jerk off. It'a amazing, you look at the sites like the DailyKos (and UK) and see people who probably once were eating out of her hand totally trashing Clinton because she's running against Obama.

Could you show me where anyone on here has even remotely hinted at the above. But I will say this if your a Democrat and decide to vote McCain because of sour grapes then you are a ignorant jerk off.

Speaking for myself personally since Clinton became a Senator I've been turned off by how she along with many Democrats just laid down and put up no fight against Bush's atrocious policies.
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6/4/2008  6:09 PM
Posted by izybx:

Liberals= enlightened
Conservatives= misinformed

Hey your more then welcome to bring any facts to the table instead of McCain's campaign talking points.
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6/4/2008  7:05 PM
Posted by bitty41:
Posted by izybx:

Liberals= enlightened
Conservatives= misinformed

Hey your more then welcome to bring any facts to the table instead of McCain's campaign talking points.

Facts? The fact that Im conservative is proof enough that Mccain is the best candidate for me and the America that I envision. I mean we're not debating two candidates with similar ideas. Im a pro-life, pro-Iraq, conservative who opposes gun control, high taxes, government handouts, etc. These are issues that are important to me. So the best candidate for me is Mccain. I dont see what points there are to make, or facts to debate. What I dont appreciate is when people like Silverfuel imply that because you are either conservative or liberal that youre stupid or uninformed. I mean is there any chance a liberal will vote for Mccain? Is there any chance that a conservative will vote for Obama? Not likely.
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izybx
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6/4/2008  7:09 PM
Posted by bitty41:
I think you've illustrated why Clinton backers act the way they do. It's not Obama, but his supporters. You guys split. Obama is the next coming of MLK, Gandhi Jesus and Buddha. Anyone who opposes him is a racist, ignorant manipulative jerk off. It'a amazing, you look at the sites like the DailyKos (and UK) and see people who probably once were eating out of her hand totally trashing Clinton because she's running against Obama.

Could you show me where anyone on here has even remotely hinted at the above. But I will say this if your a Democrat and decide to vote McCain because of sour grapes then http://you are a ignorant jerk off.

Speaking for myself personally since Clinton became a Senator I've been turned off by how she along with many Democrats just laid down and put up no fight against Bush's atrocious policies.

Statements such as this show your arrogance. Just because you will vote for Obama doesnt mean a moderate Democrat voting for Mccain is somehow less intelligent than you. Not everyone is dying for the liberals to come save the rest of America from the throes of ignorance.
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6/4/2008  7:27 PM
Posted by izybx:

What I dont appreciate is when people like Silverfuel imply that because you are either conservative or liberal that youre stupid or uninformed.
I didn't say you were misinformed because you are conservative, I said you are misinformed because you said stuff like
Mccain is for aggressive interrogations without resorting to torture.
Give me an example of your aggressive interrogations that don't qualify as torture. McCain didn't complain when Bush vetoed a bill outlawing waterboarding right?
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6/4/2008  7:29 PM
and izybx, I didn't call anyone stupid so stop making stuff up.
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bitty41
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6/4/2008  7:36 PM
Posted by izybx:
Posted by bitty41:
Posted by izybx:

Liberals= enlightened
Conservatives= misinformed

Hey your more then welcome to bring any facts to the table instead of McCain's campaign talking points.

Facts? The fact that Im conservative is proof enough that Mccain is the best candidate for me and the America that I envision. I mean we're not debating two candidates with similar ideas. Im a pro-life, pro-Iraq, conservative who opposes gun control, high taxes, government handouts, etc. These are issues that are important to me. So the best candidate for me is Mccain. I dont see what points there are to make, or facts to debate. What I dont appreciate is when people like Silverfuel imply that because you are either conservative or liberal that youre stupid or uninformed. I mean is there any chance a liberal will vote for Mccain? Is there any chance that a conservative will vote for Obama? Not likely.

Its pretty interesting that a cop wouldn't be in favor of Gun Control. I think that says it all for me in terms of your thinking. Actually there are some Conservatives out there who plan to vote for Obama because that is truly how pissed they are at the Republican party.

http://www.amconmag.com/2008/2008_03_24/article.html
Social conservatives counting on McCain to return the nation to the path of righteousness are kidding themselves. Within this camp, abortion has long been the flagship issue. Yet only a naïf would believe that today’s Republican Party has any real interest in overturning Roe v. Wade or that doing so now would contribute in any meaningful way to the restoration of “family values.” GOP support for such values is akin to the Democratic Party’s professed devotion to the “working poor”: each is a ploy to get votes, trotted out seasonally, quickly forgotten once the polls close.

But this much we can say for certain: electing John McCain guarantees the perpetuation of war. The nation’s heedless march toward empire will continue. So, too, inevitably, will its embrace of Leviathan. Whether snoozing in front of their TVs or cheering on the troops, the American people will remain oblivious to the fate that awaits them.

For conservatives, Obama represents a sliver of hope. McCain represents none at all. The choice turns out to be an easy one.

This is just one guy and even though he considers himself a Conservative some of his thinking I agree with wholeheartedly. Because I do believe true "Conservatives" meaning ones that just don't fall the path of the Republican Party but do some actual independent thinking of their own realize how McCain offers very little to stem this tide of Corportocracy that has overrun the American Government.
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6/4/2008  7:41 PM
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tatements such as this show your arrogance. Just because you will vote for Obama doesnt mean a moderate Democrat voting for Mccain is somehow less intelligent than you. Not everyone is dying for the liberals to come save the rest of America from the throes of ignorance.

Please spare me this is about bitter Clinton supporters who don't really give a **** about who wins the Presidential election and will actively work to hurt the Democratic party simply because Senator Clinton lost the nomination.
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6/4/2008  7:48 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:

and izybx, I didn't call anyone stupid so stop making stuff up.

Your right, you didnt call anybody stupid. You said "badly misinformed", which is a nice (sorta) way to call someone stupid.
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