OT: Taking down Obama with the race card
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4949
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3/19/2008 9:23 PM
Nope, I'm nowhere near it Eny.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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misterearl
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3/20/2008 10:39 AM
"It is ironic that a black man has to convince white people that the blame for the damage that 300 years of slavery, segregation and oppression has done will not be laid at their door."
To the Editor: The flap over whether Barack Obama should denounce his minister for saying divisive things from the pulpit strikes me as ridiculous. If parishioners thought they were required to believe every word their pastors uttered, I suspect the churches would empty. What was the pastor’s offense? He’s a black man who gets stirred up over social injustice. Why is that divisive? Even if the minister did cross some line, the world is full of flawed messengers who manage to inspire in spite of themselves. Constance Emerson Crooker Portland, Ore., March 19, 2008 • To the Editor: As a black man, I have to admit that it was strange to watch and listen to Senator Barack Obama as he tried to assure white folk that he is not a racist and does not intend to hold them accountable for the plight of the black community. It is ironic that a black man has to convince white people that the blame for the damage that 300 years of slavery, segregation and oppression has done will not be laid at their door. Well, Senator Obama is a politician, and we all know that politicians and truth are very often strangers to one another. But to many of us in the black community, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. got it right. Vernon S. Burton San Leandro, Calif., March 19, 2008 once a knick always a knick
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misterearl
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3/20/2008 10:45 AM
The Immovable, Lead Weight Bias Card Trumps The Race Card Every Day of The Week
To the Editor: The most remarkable thing about Senator Barack Obama’s speech about race was not his words, but the reactions to those words. Those who support him found much to validate their support. Those who oppose him found much to validate their opposition. In other words, the senator’s speech changed few minds about his qualifications to be president. How sad that we are at the point in our politics where nothing a candidate does or says, no matter how bold or momentous, can reverse voters’ preconceptions. Robert J. Inlow Charlottesville, Va., March 19, 2008 once a knick always a knick
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BRIGGS
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3/20/2008 10:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WNGjawtP48&feature=related
"For the FIRST time in my adult lifetime I am proud of my country" So when you graduated Harvard Law School and started collecting 6 figure checks as an executive and moved into a million dollar residence--you did not feel proud to be an American--a country that truly does give any person of any race true freedom and opportunity to succeed? If you take this into account with the nasty comments of the Reverened Wright[which were eerily similar in a way] I find it hard to believe that Obama has no knowledge of this man's take on America. And when people shunned President Clinton for his remarks in S Carolina---go listen to both men speaking and tell me who has hatred and bigotry. Michelle Obama should be ashamed she made those comments because I think combined with the hatred spewed by Obama's spiritual advisor of 20 years--he's hitting a bump in the road that has turned into a serious tremor. RIP Crushalot😞
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misterearl
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3/20/2008 11:02 AM
Briggs - first, get the quote right.. that is not what Michelle Obama said.
Second, absolutely nothing Barack says at this point can change people with closed minds once a knick always a knick
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misterearl
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3/20/2008 11:05 AM
For a mainstream politician running for the Presidency, and particularly for an African American running for the Presidency, this was a critical speech to give. It was essential that he not walk away from, or disown Rev. Wright. At the same time, when we live in a society that is so much in denial of the actual conditions of the oppressed both inside and outside our borders; that has come to accept torture; that often cannot comprehend the tragedy facing the Palestinians; that was angry about, yet threw up its hands in the face of the Katrina disaster (and the government's lack of response); that witnesses major banks and corporations disembowel communities and face few consequences, the anger that was displayed by Rev. Wright should not have surprised anyone. It is both anger AND hope that are critical for a genuine movement that wishes to transform this country. The anger of a Rev. Wright is not a throw-back, but is a reality check.
- Bill Fletcher Jr once a knick always a knick
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misterearl
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3/20/2008 11:10 AM
Briggs, but back to Michele Obama and the perception of patriotism
If patriotism does not allow communication and debate about the various racial and ethinic experiences in this nation, then it is an incomplete patriotrism. After this speech, patriotism should be viewed as a space for debate about racial, class, and historical issues, rather than simplistically, a space to pledge blind allegiance to a preconceived notion of America, - no questions asked... If this nation is true to its values, then this one speech should move us forward in talking with, and mobilizing, each other. Of course, talk is always cheap...from talk, we need to move towards substantive programs and policies that ensure that every person in U.S. society can have access to, and enjoy, a decent standard of living for him/her, and his/her family, as well as the neighbors in our neighborhood, and other neighborhoods. James Jennings, PhD once a knick always a knick
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jaydh
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3/20/2008 11:41 AM
Posted by TheloniusMonk: Correction:He said he disagrees with SOME of his views.....but which ones? |
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BRIGGS
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3/20/2008 11:54 AM
Posted by misterearl: RIP Crushalot😞
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nykshaknbake
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3/20/2008 12:41 PM
cosign. I may not agree with alot of what goes on in this country, but I think it's generally a good place and that we try and do the right thing. She basically told me(us) that in her view the only thing worthy we've done is show love to her husband. If she beleives that, fine, she has a right. But she obviously doesn't value things that most in this country value as most think the USA is a decent place. And I don't feel comfortable with someone as out of sync as her(with the nation) in a potentially very influential position as first lady.
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misterearl
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3/20/2008 12:52 PM
Briggs - if you're going to quote someone, the least you can do is get the words correct.
is that asking too much? [Edited by - misterearl on 03-20-2008 12:53 PM] once a knick always a knick
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OT: Taking down Obama with the race card