Posted by TMS:

what does Mardy have to do w/anything? you say our need was for a playmaking G yet Isiah drafted based on the actual need which was defensive minded players... Balkman also filled that need, so Isiah did what he felt he needed to do w/those 2 picks... i have no problem w/that... u have a different opinion which we'll never agree on no matter how well either Marcus or Balk play over the course of their careers.

right now our main need is for a shotblocking frontcourt player... if Isiah fails to address that need during the offseason, either by trade or draft, i have no problem w/anyone complaining about it cuz i'm gonna be doing the same... just telling u how i view things here, not trying to convince anyone to agree.

[Edited by - TMS on 02-23-2008 7:26 PM]

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by tkf:

Posted by TMS:

u know i'm realistic about this team's situation, & i'm not looking to generate any positive discussion... just making a point about the tendency for guys to take note of good games by players on other teams & to overlook those played by our own guys.

I agree, but the thing is, if you say anything good about the knicks, you are a homer and not a true knick fan... and I agree, zach took it to bosh and crawford dominated both parker and calderon... no problem..

the thing is, we all know that the next game, zach if he doesn't get his shots will be looking to pick a fight with someone else, and if jamal is isn't hot, the knicks will fold and probably get blown out. we have seen this way too many times, to get optomistic about anything..right now, I want to play out the string, fire Isiah and get derrick rose..

[Edited by - tkf on 23-02-2008 11:45 AM]

i agree w/u & i think True's last post just illustrates your point... i don't hear myself getting all worked up & gizzing all over Jamal & Zach's performance, just noting that it was worthy of praise, the same way he does when a completely unproven player averaging 4 ppg this season has a single 25 point game with a few assists... but hey, like BlueSeats said, familiarity breeds contempt, & these guys have seen this team lose so much that they've been conditioned to be negative about anything & everything they see, even when the team wins & some guys play well... it's a sad state of affairs when a fanbase reaches that point.

Not really because it wasn't directed at anyone in particular but intended for those who like to gush a little too much over anything our players do that's positive. Take for instance I was on the Realgm board today and there's was a thread created within 24hrs after last night's game discussing whether Jamal should be an All-Star in place Joe Johnson. ROTFLMBAO and it's a serious discussion mind you. When fans give Lee props I very rarely if ever see anyone call those fans ridiculous homers and the same with Balk and Nate when compliments are given concerning their efforts.

It's also different when looking at a 2nd yr player vs say a player who's been in the league 8-10yrs.

But what does it matter if someone gushes over a great performance by a knicks player. I mean in the end, don't we watch sports to be entertained? When kobe scored 81 points, were you not entertained, or did you say, ah, that stunk, because this guy is an adulturer and accused rapist? It is one thing to be fed up with this team, but another thing to enjoy players from a team you root for, have special games... Sometimes just enjoy things for what they are.. thats all..

Posted by TMS:

Posted by tkf:

Posted by TMS:

u know i'm realistic about this team's situation, & i'm not looking to generate any positive discussion... just making a point about the tendency for guys to take note of good games by players on other teams & to overlook those played by our own guys.

I agree, but the thing is, if you say anything good about the knicks, you are a homer and not a true knick fan... and I agree, zach took it to bosh and crawford dominated both parker and calderon... no problem..

the thing is, we all know that the next game, zach if he doesn't get his shots will be looking to pick a fight with someone else, and if jamal is isn't hot, the knicks will fold and probably get blown out. we have seen this way too many times, to get optomistic about anything..right now, I want to play out the string, fire Isiah and get derrick rose..

[Edited by - tkf on 23-02-2008 11:45 AM]

i agree w/u & i think True's last post just illustrates your point... i don't hear myself getting all worked up & gizzing all over Jamal & Zach's performance, just noting that it was worthy of praise, the same way he does when a completely unproven player averaging 4 ppg this season has a single 25 point game with a few assists... but hey, like BlueSeats said, familiarity breeds contempt, & these guys have seen this team lose so much that they've been conditioned to be negative about anything & everything they see, even when the team wins & some guys play well... it's a sad state of affairs when a fanbase reaches that point.