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bitty41
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1/30/2008  11:21 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Solid record now.

14-31. Pretty good Isiah.

If we had LB still as coach no way we're 14-31.

Are you kidding the Knicks would be the Cavs right now with the record minus Lebron of course

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1/30/2008  11:22 PM
Posted by bitty41:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by bitty41:

Jamal has gone 8-21 and Lee/Randolph have combined for 14-20 hmmm who do you think we should be getting the ball to in this game?

Patrick Ewing

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1/30/2008  11:25 PM
Sorry tkf but I felt that this was an appopriate time to remind of your comments regarding Deron Williams:
that argument has been settled, I mentioned this before, chris paul is a true PG. Deron williams is a SG in a PG's body, he plays the game of a SG if you ask me. He is a decent passer with decent vision, doesn't have great vision or passing skills, but deron can shoot and score..

Maybe Jamal can tell us if Deron is just a shooting guard with decent court vision and passing skills.

[Edited by - bitty41 on 01-30-2008 11:26 PM]
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1/30/2008  11:27 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

Solid record now.

14-31. Pretty good Isiah.

14-31, only 17 games under .500? Now that's what I call significant and evident progress.
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1/30/2008  11:34 PM
Isiah is using fatigue as an excuse.

How the hell do you use playing back to back games as an excuse when you use wins over 2 teams, playing their 4th game in 5 nights, as emphatic evidence that you've turned the corner?

Isiah is such a douchebag.
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1/30/2008  11:36 PM
Posted by bitty41:

Sorry tkf but I felt that this was an appopriate time to remind of your comments regarding Deron Williams:
that argument has been settled, I mentioned this before, chris paul is a true PG. Deron williams is a SG in a PG's body, he plays the game of a SG if you ask me. He is a decent passer with decent vision, doesn't have great vision or passing skills, but deron can shoot and score..

Maybe Jamal can tell us if Deron is just a shooting guard with decent court vision and passing skills.

[Edited by - bitty41 on 01-30-2008 11:26 PM]


they are one in the same. jamal had 9 assist, is he a PG.. again, deron is not a creative passer and a very average passer, he has a team that has some good shooters on it. he benefits from that.... other than that, what was the point of bringing this back up...? he proved nothing different tonight..
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1/30/2008  11:46 PM


Despite mispelling of his name, I'm amazed that this has even hit UTAH of all places.
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1/31/2008  12:05 AM
^ lol
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1/31/2008  12:12 AM
Posted by islesfan:

Isiah is using fatigue as an excuse.

How the hell do you use playing back to back games as an excuse when you use wins over 2 teams, playing their 4th game in 5 nights, as emphatic evidence that you've turned the corner?

Isiah is such a douchebag.
Do you even THINK before you BASH? Why isn't it valid to use fatigue in this instance? This team was shorthanded and going against a tough team at home. I felt proud of the Knicks effort tonight. They never stopped trying and made the Jazz work for the win. You could see that the Knicks were gassed towards the end. When they started missing FT's I could see they didn't have much left.

I fault Isiah a bit for not even looking to get Chandler involved. This was a game that he could at least come in and give someone a blow.

Other than that I feel pretty good about the guys that really matter on this team, namely Jamal, Nate, Lee, Zach. If we can put a few more players on this team that can play on both ends this team will be very good in the future. I want to see a Shotblocker, SG and another PG added. I'm hopeful that Chandler can develop into a good SF, but it's impossible to know for sure. I think this team could compete with any team in the league with right additions.

I don't think we need to blow this thing up entirely. Despite the losses this team hasn't embarrased itself. It's still playing like it has when we were winning games. This is a tough test for any team much less a team at the lower end like the Knicks. I hope they can continue to fight and try to get the last 2 games.
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1/31/2008  12:14 AM
Posted by islesfan:

Isiah is using fatigue as an excuse.

How the hell do you use playing back to back games as an excuse when you use wins over 2 teams, playing their 4th game in 5 nights, as emphatic evidence that you've turned the corner?

Isiah is such a douchebag.


Hence why we bring this up on this board to prove a point. He picks and chooses just like our fans base. I'm just glad I see Black and White with this regime, there are absolutely no grey areas.
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1/31/2008  12:15 AM
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by islesfan:

Isiah is using fatigue as an excuse.

How the hell do you use playing back to back games as an excuse when you use wins over 2 teams, playing their 4th game in 5 nights, as emphatic evidence that you've turned the corner?

Isiah is such a douchebag.
Do you even THINK before you BASH? Why isn't it valid to use fatigue in this instance? This team was shorthanded and going against a tough team at home. I felt proud of the Knicks effort tonight. They never stopped trying and made the Jazz work for the win. You could see that the Knicks were gassed towards the end. When they started missing FT's I could see they didn't have much left.

I fault Isiah a bit for not even looking to get Chandler involved. This was a game that he could at least come in and give someone a blow.

Other than that I feel pretty good about the guys that really matter on this team, namely Jamal, Nate, Lee, Zach. If we can put a few more players on this team that can play on both ends this team will be very good in the future. I want to see a Shotblocker, SG and another PG added. I'm hopeful that Chandler can develop into a good SF, but it's impossible to know for sure. I think this team could compete with any team in the league with right additions.

I don't think we need to blow this thing up entirely. Despite the losses this team hasn't embarrased itself. It's still playing like it has when we were winning games. This is a tough test for any team much less a team at the lower end like the Knicks. I hope they can continue to fight and try to get the last 2 games.

welp, it took Isiah 4 years to put together a team that actually tries night in and night out. maybe with another 4 years he can put together a team that tries every night AND is good.
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1/31/2008  12:17 AM
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by islesfan:

Isiah is using fatigue as an excuse.

How the hell do you use playing back to back games as an excuse when you use wins over 2 teams, playing their 4th game in 5 nights, as emphatic evidence that you've turned the corner?

Isiah is such a douchebag.
Do you even THINK before you BASH? Why isn't it valid to use fatigue in this instance? This team was shorthanded and going against a tough team at home. I felt proud of the Knicks effort tonight. They never stopped trying and made the Jazz work for the win. You could see that the Knicks were gassed towards the end. When they started missing FT's I could see they didn't have much left.

I fault Isiah a bit for not even looking to get Chandler involved. This was a game that he could at least come in and give someone a blow.

Other than that I feel pretty good about the guys that really matter on this team, namely Jamal, Nate, Lee, Zach. If we can put a few more players on this team that can play on both ends this team will be very good in the future. I want to see a Shotblocker, SG and another PG added. I'm hopeful that Chandler can develop into a good SF, but it's impossible to know for sure. I think this team could compete with any team in the league with right additions.

I don't think we need to blow this thing up entirely. Despite the losses this team hasn't embarrased itself. It's still playing like it has when we were winning games. This is a tough test for any team much less a team at the lower end like the Knicks. I hope they can continue to fight and try to get the last 2 games.

And Washington had no Arenas, No Etan Thomas, No Antonio Daniels, so was Wash a fatigued team that was shorthanded?
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1/31/2008  12:20 AM
Significant progress.
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1/31/2008  12:35 AM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by islesfan:

Isiah is using fatigue as an excuse.

How the hell do you use playing back to back games as an excuse when you use wins over 2 teams, playing their 4th game in 5 nights, as emphatic evidence that you've turned the corner?

Isiah is such a douchebag.
Do you even THINK before you BASH? Why isn't it valid to use fatigue in this instance? This team was shorthanded and going against a tough team at home. I felt proud of the Knicks effort tonight. They never stopped trying and made the Jazz work for the win. You could see that the Knicks were gassed towards the end. When they started missing FT's I could see they didn't have much left.

I fault Isiah a bit for not even looking to get Chandler involved. This was a game that he could at least come in and give someone a blow.

Other than that I feel pretty good about the guys that really matter on this team, namely Jamal, Nate, Lee, Zach. If we can put a few more players on this team that can play on both ends this team will be very good in the future. I want to see a Shotblocker, SG and another PG added. I'm hopeful that Chandler can develop into a good SF, but it's impossible to know for sure. I think this team could compete with any team in the league with right additions.

I don't think we need to blow this thing up entirely. Despite the losses this team hasn't embarrased itself. It's still playing like it has when we were winning games. This is a tough test for any team much less a team at the lower end like the Knicks. I hope they can continue to fight and try to get the last 2 games.

And Washington had no Arenas, No Etan Thomas, No Antonio Daniels, so was Wash a fatigued team that was shorthanded?
Is anyone saying that this loss doesn't count? There's no crime in pointing out that this team which is already not as good as the Jazz, especially at home, is also tired. To offer up some excuse for why the team couldn't pull out the win isn't being dishonest. Yeah we caught a break against Wash. That's still a win and this is still a loss, no matter what the excuse is. People have a right to express an opinion on what they see and I saw a team that was clearly gassed.

You have an agenda when it comes to this team as does Isles and GKFv2. You wouldn't give this group credit if it won 12 straight. You don't like the team and that fine, but they aren't laying down like dogs. They're at least fighting to the end in all these games. That's 3 games on the road against tough competition and in each game they were competitive. That's progress for this group considering how we were playing. It's too much tho for you guys to acknowledge even that much.

We've got to start somewhere and I think that these kinds of efforts are going to be the beginning of the process as we move forward. Guys on this team do care and they want to play hard and succeed. They lost to a HOT team at home, where they almost never lose. They didn't get blown out, so that's the kind of things I want to see and then down the line I hope they will start to win these kinds of games.
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1/31/2008  12:42 AM
Posted by nixluva:



We've got to start somewhere and I think that these kinds of efforts are going to be the beginning of the process as we move forward. Guys on this team do care and they want to play hard and succeed. They lost to a HOT team at home, where they almost never lose. They didn't get blown out, so that's the kind of things I want to see and then down the line I hope they will start to win these kinds of games.
Eh, The Knicks played .500 ball to end last season too. It didn't really turn out to be the beginning of any sort of process.


[Edited by - Slimpack on 01-31-2008 12:42 AM]
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1/31/2008  1:32 AM
Posted by SlimPack:
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by islesfan:

Isiah is using fatigue as an excuse.

How the hell do you use playing back to back games as an excuse when you use wins over 2 teams, playing their 4th game in 5 nights, as emphatic evidence that you've turned the corner?

Isiah is such a douchebag.
Do you even THINK before you BASH? Why isn't it valid to use fatigue in this instance? This team was shorthanded and going against a tough team at home. I felt proud of the Knicks effort tonight. They never stopped trying and made the Jazz work for the win. You could see that the Knicks were gassed towards the end. When they started missing FT's I could see they didn't have much left.

I fault Isiah a bit for not even looking to get Chandler involved. This was a game that he could at least come in and give someone a blow.

Other than that I feel pretty good about the guys that really matter on this team, namely Jamal, Nate, Lee, Zach. If we can put a few more players on this team that can play on both ends this team will be very good in the future. I want to see a Shotblocker, SG and another PG added. I'm hopeful that Chandler can develop into a good SF, but it's impossible to know for sure. I think this team could compete with any team in the league with right additions.

I don't think we need to blow this thing up entirely. Despite the losses this team hasn't embarrased itself. It's still playing like it has when we were winning games. This is a tough test for any team much less a team at the lower end like the Knicks. I hope they can continue to fight and try to get the last 2 games.

welp, it took Isiah 4 years to put together a team that actually tries night in and night out. maybe with another 4 years he can put together a team that tries every night AND is good.


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1/31/2008  1:34 AM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by SlimPack:
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by islesfan:

Isiah is using fatigue as an excuse.

How the hell do you use playing back to back games as an excuse when you use wins over 2 teams, playing their 4th game in 5 nights, as emphatic evidence that you've turned the corner?

Isiah is such a douchebag.
Do you even THINK before you BASH? Why isn't it valid to use fatigue in this instance? This team was shorthanded and going against a tough team at home. I felt proud of the Knicks effort tonight. They never stopped trying and made the Jazz work for the win. You could see that the Knicks were gassed towards the end. When they started missing FT's I could see they didn't have much left.

I fault Isiah a bit for not even looking to get Chandler involved. This was a game that he could at least come in and give someone a blow.

Other than that I feel pretty good about the guys that really matter on this team, namely Jamal, Nate, Lee, Zach. If we can put a few more players on this team that can play on both ends this team will be very good in the future. I want to see a Shotblocker, SG and another PG added. I'm hopeful that Chandler can develop into a good SF, but it's impossible to know for sure. I think this team could compete with any team in the league with right additions.

I don't think we need to blow this thing up entirely. Despite the losses this team hasn't embarrased itself. It's still playing like it has when we were winning games. This is a tough test for any team much less a team at the lower end like the Knicks. I hope they can continue to fight and try to get the last 2 games.

welp, it took Isiah 4 years to put together a team that actually tries night in and night out. maybe with another 4 years he can put together a team that tries every night AND is good.



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1/31/2008  1:36 AM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by islesfan:

Isiah is using fatigue as an excuse.

How the hell do you use playing back to back games as an excuse when you use wins over 2 teams, playing their 4th game in 5 nights, as emphatic evidence that you've turned the corner?

Isiah is such a douchebag.


Hence why we bring this up on this board to prove a point. He picks and chooses just like our fans base. I'm just glad I see Black and White with this regime, there are absolutely no grey areas.

picking & choosing when to use the fatigue excuse... funny, i've heard you do the same when it comes to teams we beat.
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1/31/2008  1:43 AM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by islesfan:

Isiah is using fatigue as an excuse.

How the hell do you use playing back to back games as an excuse when you use wins over 2 teams, playing their 4th game in 5 nights, as emphatic evidence that you've turned the corner?

Isiah is such a douchebag.


Hence why we bring this up on this board to prove a point. He picks and chooses just like our fans base. I'm just glad I see Black and White with this regime, there are absolutely no grey areas.

picking & choosing when to use the fatigue excuse... funny, i've heard you do the same when it comes to teams we beat.

You don't get it TMS. As Cosmic tried to explain 2weeks ago those of us who do it's done to prove a point.
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1/31/2008  1:46 AM
Posted by UB:

when is crawford gonna take off that stupid bandage on his shoulder? Don't tell me he's tryin to pull a rip

i've been wondering what happened to his shoulder... doesn't he have some sorta burn scar tissue on his shoulder or some big ass birthmark or something from before? did he get a cut there during practice or a game?
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