Posted by codeunknown:

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by TMS:

it's OK to be wrong & own up to it... u gain more respect that way than to keep trying to spin your way out of any arguments presented against you... i don't see how anyone could possibly think this collection of players is in a position to improve as a unit w/o any major tinkering done to revamp the personnel & management.

WHAT SPIN? If I said that I expect this team to be above .500 and to make the playoffs that's how I feel about the team. I don't agree with the job Isiah has done, that's not spin. IMO there's no reason for me to accept that this team can't play much better than this. Flawed as they are, STILL they should play better than this. There are a lot of flawed teams in the league and they manage to win games. This team should not be as bad as they've looked in the last few games. I'm not changing my tune i'm sticking by my opinion and when this team is playing better i'll be vindicated. I don't care if the entire forum changes it's tune that's not gonna make me change my assessment of this teams potential and my expectations for what they should do.

Nix, what happened to your passion to re-sign Marbury AFTER his contract is up? What about him having 5 more years at a top tier level of play? What about your opinion he could bring LEADERSHIP to the team? What about you thinking Curry would add 3 rebounds and 1 block to his stats while bringing good defense? What about your inflated 46 win prediction?

Out of curiosity, how many of those do you still believe? It seems like you're always the last to catch on.

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by Bippity10:

Nix is under the impression that we will simply forget the things he says. I'm still holding on to some of the names he called me when I asked the Knick hating question "what if Stephon and Stevie" doesn't work. He hates when I bring that up.

Hey I publicly apologized to you for anything I said that was offensive to you. If you're now saying that you never accepted that apology that's a poor way to handle things. Why not say so back then? I'm not holding on to anything that anyone has said about me and there have been FAR more nasty things said to me than i've actually said to any of you. You guys are going back TWO YEARS in some cases.

Some of you are actually embellishing my statements to make them sound worse and that I don't feel is right. If you're not going to actually post what I said, don't paraphrase, cuz all you guys do is add your own thoughts to the statements and it's not fair to me or anyone else to present your words as mine. I want Andrew and Martin to address this, cuz I don't think that is the proper way to deal with each other on a forum.

Posted by BlueSeats:

Here's an example of Nixluva from last off-season. He's gonna HAMMER the Marbury detractors:


7-11-2006

Posted by BlueSeats:

Posted by nixluva:


MAN I CAN'T WAIT for the season to start cuz i'm gonna HAMMER all you guys who actually think that Steph can't win. I LOVE how you guys want to minimize what success he did have by saying he lost on the 1st rd. Its not about what Steph does or doesn't do. Its about what the rest of the team does. If Curry was plying up to his potential, QRich, Jamal etc things would've been better. This year Curry, Frye, Lee and Nate will be better and I expect better From Steph, Jamal, QRich and Francis if he's still here. There's no way that this team is anywhere near as bad as they looked last year. I think in retrospect that LB was the wrong guy for this team and he has long since stopped being the coach he used to be

Doesn't it say something in and of itself that in his 11th season he still has to prove he isn't a "loser" and a "cancer?"

Maybe someday the guy will go far in some diminished role, but the days of him as a team leader are dwindling fast. I've seen him add nothing new to his repertoire in years, while his athleticism is diminishing quickly.

Realistically what we're hoping for with this guy is that Isiah can build a team to carry Steph faster than Steph can break it apart.

I know how it goes cause I've seen it before. Everyone trumpets Marbury's greatness just before the crash.

In 02-03 he had a nice playoff spurt but quickly in 03-04 he gets dumped for expiring contracts and picks.
In '04-05 NYers were proclaiming him the best PG in the league, until he did the same for himself and we finished 17-39.
In 05-06 all the 'haters' were being called out after we won 3 games in a row, then we finished with 23 wins and 59 losses.

I can't wait to see what little it takes before you start to HAMMER people over this guy.

stop twisting his words you hater.

(nix, u gotta take it if you're gonna dish it bro... everyone that's so outspoken about anything on this forum gets the same treatment... it's not personal, it's just business)

Posted by nixluva:

I haven't gone anywhere. I posted last night. I've been posting. The volume of negative posts has picked up so much that it only seems like i'm not posting.

I haven't changed my view on this team. My view of the coach is changing tho. I don't like how the team looks. They're playing tight and overthinking things. Guys are out there bumping into each other or just standing still. There's no motion or life. No creativity. They need to just play ball!!! It seems like Isiah has oversimplified the offense so much that all they do now is try to dump it in and there's no deception and no motion from the guards anymore. They actually have made it easier for teams to defend us. As I said last night, where are the curls, picks and rolls, back cuts, rubs and give and go's? If you go and watch the game again look at how many times our perimeter players are standing still and basically like jamal just getting in the way, so that our bigs can't move due to the congestion. The offensive sets are non existent and I don't understand why there's no motion. It's not rocket science, you just play ball.

To me the players are mentally lost and that I blame a lot of that on Isiah. He has done a bad job of keeping the team loose and allowing them to make full use of their natural abilities. Just look at the difference in how the team is playing now compared to how it played in the 2 wins. They were much more fluid, aggressive and confident. They moved with a purpose and reacted with good BB instincts. Not now. A team with this much firepower shouldn't have so much trouble scoring. That to me is a failure on the coaching staff. Isiah made few adjustments and when he did they were wrong. Sure the players are the ones on the floor, but you can't just have guys out there without a good plan of attack and to me the team wasn't directed in a way that would lead to success. He'd better figure it out soon tho, cuz I don't believe this will go on much longer. Losing is one thing, but getting embarrassed at home is another all together.

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by BasketballJones:

Posted by nixluva:

This is really just sad now. It's one thing for the team to be this bad, but why is it now necessary for so many of us to be painting such a false picture of what others have been saying. No one has ever mentioned championships. The only thing we've been looking for is that this team can make progress from the year before and make the playoffs. There were no higher expectations before the season or during it. The goal for this season remains the same. Let's not try to create opinons that never existed.

This team came into the season needing to improve and wasnt a finished title contending product. It's an outright lie to suggest that anyone here felt differently. Being optimistic isn't the same as saying we expect a title contender. What's wrong with taking steps each season towards improving the roster? I felt we did that and I still feel that we did and we should expect this team to be playing much better than this. After 10 games are you all suggesting that it's impossible now?

As for what track we're supposed to be on, i'd say where the team was before the injuries last year. The team was improving each month up until that happened. This team should be capable of playing .500 ball or better with the talent we have.

Don't make me go back and find the post where you said the Knicks are a championship team. It was last year some time.

GO FIND IT!!! CUZ THAT'S A LIE!!!! I've never said that about this team. Who would?

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by TrueBlue:

And us adding Kapono, Carroll, Miller, isn't going to bring us any closer to a title either. Heck we probably wouldn't even get to 49wins like the Bulls did this yr with such additions. You're babbling just to babble. Bulls have a better future END OF STORY!, this particular topic just needs to take a different course. A federal court judge wouldn't have given you the time of day for you to present your case to him.

You're entitled to your opinion. You like the Bulls future prospects and I like the Knicks. We won't know for a while yet, but we'll see how things shake out. I think both Pax and Zeke have work to do in order to get their teams to the level of Finals contention.
You already know that I believe the Knicks are a playoff team despite what happened this year. Right now the Bulls are ahead of the Pace that the Knicks are at, but things can change very quickly in the NBA. Each GM has some options available to them and we'll see who can make the best move for their team. If Isiah decides to stand pat, then he's likely taking a different path. One that is long term in nature. He'd be preparing for 2009/10. I don't think Paxson can take that approach having added Ben Wallace and reached the 2nd rd. If he makes a lesser deal for a lower tier PF, then I don't like their chances of advancing. If he makes a deal for a big name, then I think he's gonna have to give up a good young player like Deng and I don't think he wants to do that. He's in a tough spot.