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s3231
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11/11/2007  4:32 PM
Yeah, I agree with you on several points about the rebounds.

I just don't get why on some occasions he will go and try to get a board from David when it would be much quicker and more efficient for Lee to get the rebound if he is there first.

It just reminds me of what he does when he has the ball on offense and I can't help but feel that it is all tied into him trying to get his.

We'll see though.

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11/11/2007  4:32 PM
Posted by King1:

I will be the first to say he had a bad night but the only time Howard didnt go nuts for a 5 minute span in the third quarter is when Lee was guarding him. Last year teams were face guarding him to keep him off the glass. The difference this year is he isnt going to get a lot of minutes. Here is a guy that IT gave up draft picks instead of Lee and has numerous trade offers for him. WHy would you bring in a guy at his position when you needed a three man that could guard people? If Lee had a bad night with 4 rebounds in 20 minutes what do you call Curry night of three rebounds in 35 minutes?

Can't argue this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And I also agree about Curry/Lee/Artest is a better fit than what we have.. I was the first to say the Randolph move made no sense. But hes here now and i just hope we can find a way to make it work
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11/11/2007  4:37 PM
Posted by King1:

I dont care what other players make Zach got traded because he was a cancer to this team. The last time he was on bereavement leave he was at the strip bars and walking out on bills. I think Lee is and will be a much better defensive player than Zach. A football coach told me the first 58 minutes talent wins the last 2 character wins. I dont think Zach is a character guy. I love the way he plays the game I just dont think he will do the little things to win.

Please stop!!!!...Lee had an off night...He is still a good player..Not a great one, a good one...He is a defensive liability..He is not a better defender than Zack, they can probably rebound at the same rate, but I gave the edge to Zack...There offensive skills are even close, so Zack plays...

For his style of game he should be a much better defender but he isn't...He is very useful for this ball club and organization...Please stop acting like Lee is getting the short end of the stick for playing the game he loves...Please...
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11/11/2007  4:39 PM
Posted by Elite:
Posted by King1:

I will be the first to say he had a bad night but the only time Howard didnt go nuts for a 5 minute span in the third quarter is when Lee was guarding him. Last year teams were face guarding him to keep him off the glass. The difference this year is he isnt going to get a lot of minutes. Here is a guy that IT gave up draft picks instead of Lee and has numerous trade offers for him. WHy would you bring in a guy at his position when you needed a three man that could guard people? If Lee had a bad night with 4 rebounds in 20 minutes what do you call Curry night of three rebounds in 35 minutes?

Can't argue this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And I also agree about Curry/Lee/Artest is a better fit than what we have.. I was the first to say the Randolph move made no sense. But hes here now and i just hope we can find a way to make it work


I hope so too, but when a team has neither perimeter defense nor post defense to cover up for it, that can't be a good sign.
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11/11/2007  4:45 PM
Posted by s3231:
Posted by Elite:
Posted by King1:

I will be the first to say he had a bad night but the only time Howard didnt go nuts for a 5 minute span in the third quarter is when Lee was guarding him. Last year teams were face guarding him to keep him off the glass. The difference this year is he isnt going to get a lot of minutes. Here is a guy that IT gave up draft picks instead of Lee and has numerous trade offers for him. WHy would you bring in a guy at his position when you needed a three man that could guard people? If Lee had a bad night with 4 rebounds in 20 minutes what do you call Curry night of three rebounds in 35 minutes?

Can't argue this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And I also agree about Curry/Lee/Artest is a better fit than what we have.. I was the first to say the Randolph move made no sense. But hes here now and i just hope we can find a way to make it work


I hope so too, but when a team has neither perimeter defense nor post defense to cover up for it, that can't be a good sign.

LOL.......... we can hope and dream cant we?
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11/11/2007  5:14 PM
haha, yes we can
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11/11/2007  5:39 PM
Not saying Lee is getting the short end just saying you need to trade him becuase he is the only player you can trade on this team and get fair value. No one wants Zach, Eddy, Jamal, or Steph. Fill in the holes of your team with a trading chip you have. Holfresh do you really think Zach is the guy that can get you to the playoffs?
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11/11/2007  6:00 PM
Zach out tonight. Lee's change to show...
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11/11/2007  6:05 PM
From AP: Zach Randolph Caught Stealing Rebounds from David Lee

NBA officials are reviewing several documented cases of grand larceny filed against noted team cancer Zach Randolph for unecessary effort in rebounding - which some contend REQUIRES extra effort to be great. Noted Criminal Attorney Billy Martin, has been retained by Randolph to contest the charges.

Dennis Rodman could not be reached for comment.

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11/11/2007  6:08 PM
Posted by King1:

Not saying Lee is getting the short end just saying you need to trade him becuase he is the only player you can trade on this team and get fair value. No one wants Zach, Eddy, Jamal, or Steph. Fill in the holes of your team with a trading chip you have. Holfresh do you really think Zach is the guy that can get you to the playoffs?

King you arent going to convince Knicks Fans that its a good idea to trade David Lee. We all love him, I think most fans would prefer to find a way to make him work in the team than trade him. Unless your talking about getting back a Garnett/Kobe then No thanks
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11/11/2007  6:11 PM
Posted by King1:

Not saying Lee is getting the short end just saying you need to trade him becuase he is the only player you can trade on this team and get fair value. No one wants Zach, Eddy, Jamal, or Steph. Fill in the holes of your team with a trading chip you have. Holfresh do you really think Zach is the guy that can get you to the playoffs?

Well being that Zack is a better player, we probably don't have shot of making the playoffs with either player by your estimation....
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11/11/2007  6:16 PM
This just in: Isiah sets up David Lee to fail by starting him .

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11/11/2007  6:22 PM
I dont think with the team the Knicks have right now they will make ther playoffs
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11/11/2007  6:51 PM
No Zach tonight. And Lee is 1-5. Can't blame that on Zach. If anything this team looks like they would have not even won a game if they didn't have Zach.
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11/11/2007  6:55 PM
Please, Lee is getting good shots.

If you are blaming Lee for the Knicks being down right now, that is ridiculous.
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11/11/2007  6:59 PM
Posted by s3231:

Please, Lee is getting good shots.

If you are blaming Lee for the Knicks being down right now, that is ridiculous.

Not blaming Lee for being down at all. However, to think that Lee is better in the lineup than Zach is not the case. Or that Zach is perventing Lee from being a star is not the case.

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11/11/2007  7:01 PM
got ya, no argument there
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