Posted by newyorknewyork:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by newyorknewyork:
This is a prime example to why people get labled as lovers and haters. For those of you who wonder why you get labled as such.
One side says that the knicks only started playing at a 500. clip before injuries only because the schedule was easy. And we folded not becuase of injuries but because the schedule got tougher. Completely ignoring injuries. Then vise versa the other side says it wasn't because of scheduling it was because of injuries. Completly putting off the thought that the scheduling had any impact.
Why does it allways have to be black or white, when in the reality its probably gray. Like I stated in a earlier post. Being a lover or hater only makes you a flawed poster.
Maybe having an easier schedule during that time did have part to do with the knicks playing 500. ball maybe not. But don't discount every other reasoning. The year before even with easier scheduling we would have still failed. Just like you can't only blame injuries for the downfall since Isiah did pay prime money and picks for Marbury, Jefferies & Curry who all were playing. So I could understand why many wouldn't want to give Isiah a pass.
Easy schedule or not the Knicks did what they were supposed to do for a good period of time. Which is an improvement over the past yrs. Then folded down the stretch which can't be excused due to injuries since with the price we paid for Marbury & Curry they should have been able to carry us. Though the blame shouldn't go to Marbury & Curry for not being able to do it. But to Isiah Thomas for giving up what he gave up to for the 2 palyers who couldn't carry a team past injuries.
Its really not that hard to be objective, some of you guys should give it a try. At the end of the day, if this teamd deosn't play well enough to be a playoff team and actually put on a show in the playoffs then its time to move on from Isiah Thomas.
Since Rembee doesn't have the balls to answer my very simple question I'll pose it to you.
Why were we 3-13 in our Division while Toronto was 11-5, New Jersey was 10-6, Philly 9-7, and Boston 7-9 all suffering equal if not greater injuries to their squads?
To anwser your question I have no Idea why the Knicks were 3-13 vs teams in our divison. The fact that we were 3-13 probably helps the fact that other teams had the amount of wins they did. We were 1-3 vs Toronto, 0-4 vs the Nets, 1-3 vs Philly, 1-3 vs Bos. If like the Knicks were 13-3 vs these teams and reversed the win-loss. Toronto would be 8-8, Nets 7-9, Philly 6-10, Boston 4-12 vs teams in there division. Subtract all games vs Knicks, Toronto would have bee 9-4, Nets 6-6, Philly 6-6, Boston 4-8.
Im glad you brought this up. Because it shows how much more we need to focus on beating the teams in our division. If we would have taken care of business and swept Boston, beat Philly 3-1, Split with the Nets 2-2, and lost to Toronto 1-3 that would have been 10wins. That would have given us 40 wins on the season. Might even snuck into the playoffs since we were would have been tied with Orlando which we slip the season with.
You also can't ignore that we played Toronto, Philly & NJ 3 games each down the stretch without Crawford, Richardson or Lee. It shouldn't be used as an excuse since like I stated earlier Marbury & Curry were there. But it still not something you just ignore, its still is a big hit.
Every team had injuries throughout the yr or roster overhaul. Toronto had injuries to Bargnani and Garbajosa, Philly didn't have Webber nor A.I., New Jersey was without Kristic and Jefferson, Boston had Pierce, Wally, Jefferson, Tony Allen, Delonte West, Perkins all miss 10gms or more.
When our injuries hit we beat a healthy Toronto squad without Crawford or Lee BTW, we had everyone but Lee in 1 of the remaining 3 New Jersey games, there was never an excuse to lose to Philly and when we lost to Philly we got blown the F out in 1 of the 2 remaining gms with everyone but Lee.I have Mad respect for you even humoring me to answer my very simple question. RemBee gets an F
Basically you've officially in my mind buried the injury excuse forever with your honest analysis. For 8mos now many of us have had to listen to the injury excuse from apologists, when in my mind the crux of season was summed up by this sobering statistic. Too bad no one could man up and deal with it. Many tried to sweep this under the rug as if it had absolutely no relevancy. IMO like you said if we start with taking care of things like Home, Division, and Conference record we don't have to look too much further for explanations.
Go Ahead and Bronze This!
[Edited by - TrueBlue on 10-16-2007 11:26 PM]
