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arkrud
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9/14/2007  11:10 AM
Posted by playa2:

A Jew doesn't have a face that can be picked out of a crowd and discriminated against just because your hue is darker than everyone else.

Blacks have that kind of drama 365 7 days a week.

You want us to be pure - you burn down our churches.
You want us to disappear - you drop govt crack in low income neighborhoods
You want us to surrender - you put us in jail
This how you win at racism in america - by dying









[Edited by - playa2 on 14-09-2007 10:26]

Man - you are mistaken.
In Europe anybody can pick up Jew in the crowed.
Can you see the difference between Yoruba and Ibos? I cannot but people from Africa can.
Don't make assumptions based on your own abilities.



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9/14/2007  11:20 AM
Posted by arkrud:

I agree that Isiah antics are not racism of this nature. Same as Imus antics are not. This is just words and they are taken out of contexts. But let's be fair and treat everybody the same way. If Isiah is OK so Imus is OK.
My opinion they both are jerks and idiots and deserve same treatment but it’s just me.
Racism is not an excuse for crime, ignorance, laziness, and low culture.
I dont know what its like living in USSR as a Jew and wont pretend to. What I do know, is its not the same thing as being black in America.
Not saying who had it worse or better, but its definitely not the same. I dont know much about anti-semiticism in Europe but I do know that in this country you are considered white, which is porbably why you took offense to the remark by Isiah.

Let me also add, that there is a sgement of white people who are pissed at what happened to Don Imus and have been trying to find a way to strike back in any way possibe. So any and everything becomes a cause to fight against in the name of Don Imus. Let me clarify a few things.
Don Imus, on national TV called some elite black scholar/atheletes nappy headed hos. And he went on and on about it.
Isiah Thomas is alleged to have said at his job in a room: Bitch, I dont give a **** about these white people!

They are not the same thing, they are not close.

The irony in the whole thing is, he allegedly called her a bitch, and thats the MAIN BAD THING HE SAID!!!
refering to season ticket holders as white people and saying he doesn't care about them is not racist. Its inappropriate, insensitive, and incorrect because obviously all season ticket holders aren't white, (but most are white) but it is not racist. We dont even know if this is true or not!!!! They are not the same in anyway.

But this is the remark I'd really like you to clarify:
Racism is not an excuse for crime, ignorance, laziness, and low culture.
What do you mean by that?



[Edited by - Killa4luv on 09-14-2007 11:22 AM]
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9/14/2007  11:21 AM

"bitch I dont give a **** about these white people" to me is not racist.

To me its an arrogant statement made by an arrogant person who is more style than substance and is usually over his head.

Isiah tries, but maybe being a top 50 hall of fame player with two rings is about as good as he can do. I always liked his ambition, but we see this all the time in the business world. Guys and gals want the big job but are not really able to handle it.
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9/14/2007  11:30 AM
"All people have equal chance in US now"

briggs - some equal justice would be welcomed in Jena LA

are the clear examples cited by playa isolated incidents or a pattern?

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9/14/2007  11:41 AM
just curious

Nalod - would you consider Bill Belichick an arrogant person who is more style than substance ...

or a snake?


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9/14/2007  11:55 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:

[quote]Posted by misterearl:

Get over it and move on?

This is dedicated to the \"light years\" briggs claims society has advanced since slavery.

misterearl--so we can compare isolated incidents to widespread abuse? Don\'t you think that there are very similar incidents against ALL races from time to time whether it be white-asian black spanish--etc.. of course. The world has it\'s monsters in it. This is quite different from the ideology of early US and Germany. All people have equal chance in US now--that is why I say look at who is running for president a woman an african american and a mexican--PRESIDENT of US. When OJ Simpson chops up white wife and young white kid--it is an isolated incident. Are there rural parts of US that are still 30 years behind times like in Jena LA? Yes. Is there skin heads out there in US who want to fry my Jewish arse--yes--not to mention millions of arabs if we are talking truth. I grew up without a dad fom age 8 and then poor after he died--I turned out OK--no need to make excuses or blame others. If you want to be next obama or oprah--you have to try harder and not blame US way of life in 1940. We blew a hole in the middle of japan in 1940--they got over it--understand? life moves on.

Briggs I have tried to explain this before and I will try again...briefly.

Kiling people in what is an already functioning society is one thing. Japan just has to pick up where they left off. Same with Jews, they had their culture intact, many bright minds around to mourn the loss of family members, friends and build a movement to vow that it never happens again.

But continually destroying a peoples culture, language, mind, and sense of self-worth over the course of a couple of hundred years is something totally different and far more destructive. Its not something so easily gotten over, especially not for those who are in a cycle of not only poverty, but ignorance, addiction, and little pride in themselves or their people. They cannot just 'get over it', and I cannot just get over what was done to them, and i'm not even certain about the path to take to get them right. No one is. So please stop giving me the growing up poor bit, or the oprah, Obama thing. Yes black people have made strides, yes more oppurtunitie exist, but millions are still deeply affected (in ways they dont understand) by a kind of racism that developed in the country over the course of about 300+ years, and was only officially acknowledged in some way about 40+ years ago.

I am doing my part to change my community, but most black kids have a hell of a lot more to deal with than just growing up poor, and you and millions of white people need to begin to understand that. You dont undo hundreds of years of oppression by just getting over it. Suggesting we just get over it, beyond sounding cruel and insensitive, highlights that you dont understand the nature of the issue you are discussing.

And what Marv said about a role the federal gov't could play, a starting point would be to fund a black non-profit with some established track record of developing families in poor black areas, and replicating that program all over the country in every poor black area. Thats what I mean when I say reparations. The gov't did this to my people they should play a role in repairing it. They wont, and I dont expect them to but they should. White people go crazy when they hear the word, its like: Trillions for Iraq, eh, no biggie. Reperations? NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

On of my goals in life is to generate millions of dolars and do this myself.





[Edited by - Killa4luv on 09-14-2007 12:01 PM]
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9/14/2007  12:00 PM
Posted by misterearl:

"All people have equal chance in US now"

briggs - some equal justice would be welcomed in Jena LA

are the clear examples cited by playa isolated incidents or a pattern?

Let me answer this for you Briggs. This is a pattern that has continued since slavery ended. This is not new, shocking, or different, its just that we thought this particular pattern of abuse ceased to exist, and it obviously has not. Equal justice is not the rule of law by a long shot, look at the studies on this. They all say the same thing, if you are poor, or a person of color, you get harsher sentences, more likely to recieve the death penalty etc.
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9/14/2007  12:03 PM
Inner City Blues...

Killa4luv - I would be shocked if the feds invested one week's worth of Iraq chedda in the Lower 9th Ward, Gentilly or Mid-City... or Bed-Stuy, The Bronx or in the backyard of the nation's capital in Anacostia (SW DC)...

and those places are IN America.

nah, let's have a war where we are simultaneously blowing ish up and "rebuilding" at the same time

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9/14/2007  12:14 PM
Posted by Killa4luv:
Posted by arkrud:

I agree that Isiah antics are not racism of this nature. Same as Imus antics are not. This is just words and they are taken out of contexts. But let's be fair and treat everybody the same way. If Isiah is OK so Imus is OK.
My opinion they both are jerks and idiots and deserve same treatment but it’s just me.
Racism is not an excuse for crime, ignorance, laziness, and low culture.
I dont know what its like living in USSR as a Jew and wont pretend to. What I do know, is its not the same thing as being black in America.
Not saying who had it worse or better, but its definitely not the same. I dont know much about anti-semiticism in Europe but I do know that in this country you are considered white, which is porbably why you took offense to the remark by Isiah.

Let me also add, that there is a sgement of white people who are pissed at what happened to Don Imus and have been trying to find a way to strike back in any way possibe. So any and everything becomes a cause to fight against in the name of Don Imus. Let me clarify a few things.
Don Imus, on national TV called some elite black scholar/atheletes nappy headed hos. And he went on and on about it.
Isiah Thomas is alleged to have said at his job in a room: Bitch, I dont give a **** about these white people!

They are not the same thing, they are not close.

The irony in the whole thing is, he allegedly called her a bitch, and thats the MAIN BAD THING HE SAID!!!
refering to season ticket holders as white people and saying he doesn't care about them is not racist. Its inappropriate, insensitive, and incorrect because obviously all season ticket holders aren't white, (but most are white) but it is not racist. We dont even know if this is true or not!!!! They are not the same in anyway.

But this is the remark I'd really like you to clarify:
Racism is not an excuse for crime, ignorance, laziness, and low culture.
What do you mean by that?



[Edited by - Killa4luv on 09-14-2007 11:22 AM]

By this remark I meant that sometimes people try to make an excuse using racism or any type of oppression for not doing enough in their own community and their own live. This can be white, black, Asian, Mexican, any kind of community. And I think this is not how people should respond to the problems. The best way to fight racism is to become better people that racist are. Not to assume that you are better just for not being racist yourself.
Yes - this will make them more of racist and will not make you life any easier but this is the only way to get self respect and peace of mind.

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9/14/2007  12:28 PM
Posted by misterearl:

"All people have equal chance in US now"

briggs - some equal justice would be welcomed in Jena LA

are the clear examples cited by playa isolated incidents or a pattern?

Man I didn't know that things were totally equal now. I suppose that all the studies that show otherwise should just be thrown out now, cuz it's official that things are all equal.

All I can do is shake my head when I read something like this. OK Briggs let me explain something to you. The African-Americans in this country and many Native tribes as well, were stripped of their native language or knowledge of who and where they came from. The African-Americans that survived the arduous trip here were of mixed tribes and tongues and then further subjected to breaking down of any social and family bonds. You could secretly marry someone and then have that person sold off or raped. Your children could be sold off and you not know how to contact them. One of the 1st things freed slaves did was go in search of lost loved ones.

It's actually amazing that any of our original culture survived. Families were separated on a regular basis. Raping by white slave owners was a continual problem and led to other issues within the African-American culture. As you probably know education was for the most part forbidden and discouraged and that lack of emphasis on education has persisted down to this day in many families. An inferiority complex was developed and even self hate. I can go on and on, but suffice it to say that unlike many other oppressed peoples the Afro-Americans have a unique set of disadvantages that still haunt us today. You could at least as a Jewish, Japanese, Mexican, German, Italian, Irish imigrant, retain your sense of self, Language, Culture, History and Community. African-Americans don't really have that same level of togetherness and in fact the self hate has manifested itself in the black on black crime we still see today. The sexist attitudes among black men towards black women and the immasculating nature of american society towards black men all stem from the earlier slavery days. You have to imagine what several hundred years of that kind of oppression could do to any group of people. A few years of slightly better conditions isn't going to undo that. It's only be about 30 years since we 1st expressed any sense of self pride to the outside world. I still remember "Black is Beautiful" and "I'm Black and I'm Proud" mantras being openly voiced. It really hasn't been that long. These are just some of the internal issues and don't include the systemic external barricades African-Americans face.
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9/14/2007  2:19 PM
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by misterearl:

"All people have equal chance in US now"

briggs - some equal justice would be welcomed in Jena LA

are the clear examples cited by playa isolated incidents or a pattern?

Man I didn't know that things were totally equal now. I suppose that all the studies that show otherwise should just be thrown out now, cuz it's official that things are all equal.

All I can do is shake my head when I read something like this. OK Briggs let me explain something to you. The African-Americans in this country and many Native tribes as well, were stripped of their native language or knowledge of who and where they came from. The African-Americans that survived the arduous trip here were of mixed tribes and tongues and then further subjected to breaking down of any social and family bonds. You could secretly marry someone and then have that person sold off or raped. Your children could be sold off and you not know how to contact them. One of the 1st things freed slaves did was go in search of lost loved ones.

It's actually amazing that any of our original culture survived. Families were separated on a regular basis. Raping by white slave owners was a continual problem and led to other issues within the African-American culture. As you probably know education was for the most part forbidden and discouraged and that lack of emphasis on education has persisted down to this day in many families. An inferiority complex was developed and even self hate. I can go on and on, but suffice it to say that unlike many other oppressed peoples the Afro-Americans have a unique set of disadvantages that still haunt us today. You could at least as a Jewish, Japanese, Mexican, German, Italian, Irish imigrant, retain your sense of self, Language, Culture, History and Community. African-Americans don't really have that same level of togetherness and in fact the self hate has manifested itself in the black on black crime we still see today. The sexist attitudes among black men towards black women and the immasculating nature of american society towards black men all stem from the earlier slavery days. You have to imagine what several hundred years of that kind of oppression could do to any group of people. A few years of slightly better conditions isn't going to undo that. It's only be about 30 years since we 1st expressed any sense of self pride to the outside world. I still remember "Black is Beautiful" and "I'm Black and I'm Proud" mantras being openly voiced. It really hasn't been that long. These are just some of the internal issues and don't include the systemic external barricades African-Americans face.

I think you must be misunderstanding BRIGGS.

There is some difference between equal chance (which may be not-so-good-phrasing for chance) and equal, right?
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9/14/2007  2:29 PM
Let's look at that facts

Isiah has been through a number of coaches in his tenure
1. Chaney (embarrassed publically and then had him ushered out of the garden without class)
2. Wilkens (made a trade against his will, fired his top assistant undermining him)
3. Brown (biggest coaching disaster in the last decade)

Questionable Character Work Ethic Players brought in
1. Penny
2. Marbury
3. Tim Thomas
4. Jalen Rose
5. Jerome James
6. Eddy Curry
7. Zach Randolf
8. Steve Francis
9. Nate Robinson
10. Q Woods
11. Mo Taylor

Players absent from player event last year
Crawford, Richardson, Francis, Balkman, Collins, Curry, James, etc.
-Anucha claim that Isiah don't give a **** about player appearances would seem to be spot on

Isiah has been an embarrasment to the organization in every way possible. His team doesn't play hard for a majority of their games, the knicks get into a brawl with the nuggets, act like thugs in chicago, are one of the worst teams in the nba the past three seasons, go through three coaches, have two court cases, are dropped from national tv, season tickets dropped 15%, payroll increase by close to 40 million not including luxury tax, has to give buyouts to a number of mistakes trades, makes two of the worst midlevel signings and the worst trade of the year steve francis......

Isiah doesn't deserve any benefit
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9/14/2007  3:20 PM
Posted by MS:

Let's look at that facts

Isiah has been through a number of coaches in his tenure
1. Chaney (embarrassed publically and then had him ushered out of the garden without class)
2. Wilkens (made a trade against his will, fired his top assistant undermining him)
3. Brown (biggest coaching disaster in the last decade)

Questionable Character Work Ethic Players brought in
1. Penny
2. Marbury
3. Tim Thomas
4. Jalen Rose
5. Jerome James
6. Eddy Curry
7. Zach Randolf
8. Steve Francis
9. Nate Robinson
10. Q Woods
11. Mo Taylor

Players absent from player event last year
Crawford, Richardson, Francis, Balkman, Collins, Curry, James, etc.
-Anucha claim that Isiah don't give a **** about player appearances would seem to be spot on

Isiah has been an embarrasment to the organization in every way possible. His team doesn't play hard for a majority of their games, the knicks get into a brawl with the nuggets, act like thugs in chicago, are one of the worst teams in the nba the past three seasons, go through three coaches, have two court cases, are dropped from national tv, season tickets dropped 15%, payroll increase by close to 40 million not including luxury tax, has to give buyouts to a number of mistakes trades, makes two of the worst midlevel signings and the worst trade of the year steve francis......

Isiah doesn't deserve any benefit

This all is true but I would give Isiah one credit.
By being what he is and doing what he does he prepared this club for THE CHANGE.
He made it inevitable. And the x-hour is getting close.


[Edited by - arkrud on 09-14-2007 3:21 PM]
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9/14/2007  4:19 PM
Posted by nixluva:

[quote]Posted by misterearl:

\"All people have equal chance in US now\"

briggs - some equal justice would be welcomed in Jena LA

are the clear examples cited by playa isolated incidents or a pattern?

Man I didn\'t know that things were totally equal now. I suppose that all the studies that show otherwise should just be thrown out now, cuz it\'s official that things are all equal.

All I can do is shake my head when I read something like this. OK Briggs let me explain something to you. The African-Americans in this country and many Native tribes as well, were stripped of their native language or knowledge of who and where they came from.


If you get up and go to school starting from age 6 and on--this is also a huge responsibility of the PARENT-- and you try HARD--get involved in other school activities--whatever that may be--I don\'t care what color you are what language you speak--whatever--if you give hard effort and continue that work ethic--you will have a great chance to succeed in life. You will have equal opportunity and that\'s all anyone can ask for. If you accept laziness--illegal activity--and other poor charachter traits as a way of life and use the word racism as an excuse--you are likely to end up a hater of life--and of course anyone in it. They should make much tougher laws in terms of making sure PARENTS are responsible for making sure THEIR kids are in school every day and setting the tone so that the child picks up great habits early in life. If they see the parent doing illegal things to make money--sitting on their arse collecting checks because they have 8 children with 5 different fathers--they will pick that up. I think this has been a problem for some races and it will continue until someone in the White House throwing down a mean hammer on this crp. This is a form of terrorism in a way.
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9/14/2007  5:01 PM
Briggs try looking at it this way. Let's say you have two kids. ONe you treat like gold. You give them everything. You teach them everything. You explain the world and you mentor them. You help them to acheive every step of the way. The other child you make sleep outside. You beat them daily. You don't teach them. When you go on trips you drive the first child and make the second child walk. You abuse the 2nd child from birth until the age of 22. Then at 22 you free them both and let them out into the real world. What do you think the results will be?

Child one probably does pretty well for himself. Probably raises his children to do well also. How do you think child 2 turns out? What do you think child 2 teaches his children? How many generations do you think it will take to offset the damage you created? This is just a base example of what has happened to blacks in america. You'll notice that africans that come here today voluntarily fare a lot better because they come here with their culture intact. But the systematic and historic treatment of African Americans is far different than anyone else. It is not something you can fix simply by "getting over it". It goes a lot deeper than that.

Yes, there is much that blacks can do to improve their lives. Yes, we all have a great opportunity to do well in America. I try to teach that in all my lectures. But as you teach you also have to understand. For hundreds of years an entire portion of our population has been held back and not shown the opportunity that is in front of them. It is not our responsibility to give them things. But it is our responsibility to show them how they can achieve. We are failing as a nation in this regard. We are not teaching. We are giving handouts and saying why aren't you as strong as me.

Briggs I came from a tough background as well. I made well for myself also. But I did well because I had a role model. I was one of the few lucky african americans that saw someone succeed. Thousands of babies will be born today and will never ever see a successful person. They have no idea what the path to success is. They are as strong and possibly stronger mentally than anyone you know. But without hope. Without seeing the path, where do they go? Briggs the hopelessness that many of these kids will see would drag both you and I down in an instant. We can't have the arrogance to think that we would make it out of their circumstance without question. It's not that easy. It's time to stop being fed up with a portion of society and blaming them for their failures. And realize it's time to teach.

[Edited by - bippity10 on 14-09-2007 5:02 PM]
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9/14/2007  7:06 PM
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9/14/2007  7:16 PM
Counterpointguard

MSs Questionable Character/Work Ethic Players

1. Penny - gone, heck YOU try running and jumping on tender knees
2. Marbury - you can question his quotes but where is it validated that Marbury does not work hard?
3. Tim Thomas - gone
4. Jalen Rose - long gone
5. Jerome James - comic relief
6. Eddy Curry - heck YOU try running and jumping 82 nights against the biggest of big men with a suspect heart
7. Zach Randolph - everyone deserves a second chance, especially when you're good for 23 and 12
8. Steve Francis - gone
9. Nate Robinson - nothing wrong whatsover about Nate's work ethic, he's a playful kid just dancing to his own beat - nothing wrong widat
10. Q Woods - doggone, hey I liked Qyntel because I love a good story, besides Qyntel came from nothing with no support or mentoring, you should try it
11. Mo Taylor - who?

sheesh, where is it written the path to success is a perfectly straight line?

MS - I would submit that kvetching over every single one of Zeke's transactions is just plain redundant. The more contemporary and relevant question is whether the current, resulting skill-sets of those moves is aiming the roster in the right direction?

here's a clue - make an intelligent comparison of Knicks frontcourt in Janauary 2004 and September 2007 then get back to me

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[Edited by - misterearl on 09-14-2007 7:32 PM]
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9/14/2007  7:39 PM
"Meanwhile, back in the states..."

Briggs, this copy of an eMail blast that is gaining national attention is respectfully shared so you can have a glimpse at the mood among people who are not "getting over it"


"Mark this day in your book. (syndicated radio host) Michael Baisden is asking all to attend the sentencing of the Jena 6, Louisiana's young black boys on September 20, 2007. These boys can go to prison for life behind a high school fight against white students. This is serious family, and could be any one of our youths. If you are unable to show up and send a message about Racism than Michael Baisden is asking all to wear Black that day for Unity and send a silent or loud prayer to those young men who are fighting racism on behalf of us all."

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9/14/2007  8:21 PM
Posted by misterearl:

\"Meanwhile, back in the states...\"

Briggs, this copy of an eMail blast that is gaining national attention is respectfully shared so you can have a glimpse at the mood among people who are not \"getting over it\"


\"Mark this day in your book. (syndicated radio host) Michael Baisden is asking all to attend the sentencing of the Jena 6, Louisiana\'s young black boys on September 20, 2007. These boys can go to prison for life behind a high school fight against white students. This is serious family, and could be any one of our youths. If you are unable to show up and send a message about Racism than Michael Baisden is asking all to wear Black that day for Unity and send a silent or loud prayer to those young men who are fighting racism on behalf of us all.\"

misterearl--the final result will have a dose of today\'s reality although there can be no toleration of any gang beating down any individual in any respect--all the boys black and white deserved to be reasonably punished. Back 40-50 years ago-maybe these boys do go to jail for life. You have to look at the positive side of this story and all people need to continue to understand it-- but like I said this is an isolated incident.
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Posted by Bippity10:

Briggs try looking at it this way. Let's say you have two kids. ONe you treat like gold. You give them everything. You teach them everything. You explain the world and you mentor them. You help them to acheive every step of the way. The other child you make sleep outside. You beat them daily. You don't teach them. When you go on trips you drive the first child and make the second child walk. You abuse the 2nd child from birth until the age of 22. Then at 22 you free them both and let them out into the real world. What do you think the results will be?

Child one probably does pretty well for himself. Probably raises his children to do well also. How do you think child 2 turns out? What do you think child 2 teaches his children? How many generations do you think it will take to offset the damage you created? This is just a base example of what has happened to blacks in america. You'll notice that africans that come here today voluntarily fare a lot better because they come here with their culture intact. But the systematic and historic treatment of African Americans is far different than anyone else. It is not something you can fix simply by "getting over it". It goes a lot deeper than that.

Yes, there is much that blacks can do to improve their lives. Yes, we all have a great opportunity to do well in America. I try to teach that in all my lectures. But as you teach you also have to understand. For hundreds of years an entire portion of our population has been held back and not shown the opportunity that is in front of them. It is not our responsibility to give them things. But it is our responsibility to show them how they can achieve. We are failing as a nation in this regard. We are not teaching. We are giving handouts and saying why aren't you as strong as me.

Briggs I came from a tough background as well. I made well for myself also. But I did well because I had a role model. I was one of the few lucky african americans that saw someone succeed. Thousands of babies will be born today and will never ever see a successful person. They have no idea what the path to success is. They are as strong and possibly stronger mentally than anyone you know. But without hope. Without seeing the path, where do they go? Briggs the hopelessness that many of these kids will see would drag both you and I down in an instant. We can't have the arrogance to think that we would make it out of their circumstance without question. It's not that easy. It's time to stop being fed up with a portion of society and blaming them for their failures. And realize it's time to teach.

[Edited by - bippity10 on 14-09-2007 5:02 PM]

EXCELLENT!!!! This is exactly what I was trying to say. I know of many people who are the product of MANY generations of undereducated teenage parents, living in poverty. Trust me that in the awful schools these kids go to, there's nothing equal about their chances. The crime and abuse. The fact that no one in their family has finished high school, much less gone to college. I can't state things much better than Bippity just put it. This country has profited off of the broken backs of Africans and other minorities and in return they've kicked them a bowl of handouts and said "there we've made up for the wrongs we've done you. We're all even now. I don't want to talk about this anymore."
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