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8/10/2007  4:10 PM
Posted by misterearl:

bippity - you don't need no steenkin' dictionary

haven't you ever been to The Village Vanguard?

sheesh

earl the vanguard is great but have you ever been to club groove on macdougal and w 3rd? if you ever get a hardon for live old school soul this is the place.
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8/10/2007  4:13 PM
Marv - you rock. haven't been to club groove but it is now on the list

please oh please, Marv tell me I'm wrong about the relationship of appreciation between basketball and jazz

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8/10/2007  4:14 PM
I prefer the gym over a jazz club. As a matter of fact in about an hour and a half I will be at a gym making sweet music on the nets.
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8/10/2007  4:18 PM
bippity - it's not about visiitng a jazz club dude

it's about understanding the intricacies and variances of individual performance in the context of a group, or team, setting

it's a beautiful thing
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8/10/2007  4:20 PM
If you feel that you are the only one that understands what it takes to make up a team than chances are you don't have a good idea of what it takes to make up a team.
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8/10/2007  4:21 PM
Posted by Marv:
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with that said...the live from reports were fun to do...but...well, there may be something else on the horizon...stay tuned...


www.LiveFromAirCanada.com?

yeah! nail that raptor lover!

no need to be shy guys...i know what you guys are asking for.



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8/10/2007  4:31 PM
Posted by Solace:
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anyway, this thread us idiotic. I dunno why I can't stay out of it like silver said.

I don't know why you couldn't take it for what it was: a discussion. Instead you got all bent out of shape because you misunderstood the intent.

just like you got all bent out of shape with COSSUCKS?
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8/10/2007  4:32 PM
Posted by martin:

just like you got all bent out of shape with COSSUCKS?

No, that is your stupid interpretation. I asked him a question and he refused to answer and sidestepped. Nice try. I suggest you reread that thread before commenting again, because you are clearly mistaken or mislead.
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8/10/2007  4:48 PM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by RemBee76:

Notice the only ones interested in perpetuating the asinine Hater-Lover tags are the Haters. That right there is proof positive that the "Haters" aren't really interested in in-depth analysis at all. Another example? Nixluva schooled the board on another thread describing Isiah's offense, and all the self-proclaimed "UK Mafia” could say is "How come we aren't the Phoenix Suns of the East, like Isiah pormised", or something just as shallow.

Here is a theory: Trueblue’s “Haters” predict we will win 48 games next year so that they can be sure they have something to complain about when we don't hit that mark. Yeah, we didn't improve by 25 games last year so we underachieved.

Ridiculous BS that only constipates the all-too-rare interesting dialogue on this forum.

Tell me I'm wrong.

I noticed that this was quickly dropped after someone brought up the prediction thread. Theory based on nothing but the voices in your head.

Nope, just wasn't worth addressing further, like so many of the circular arguments here.

Lets be honest instead of arguing semantics. For the purpose of my argument there is no difference between saying this team should win 48 games but won't because it always dissappoints vs. a prediction of 48 wins...either way you get to complain that the team isn't meeting your expectations, just getting to do it earlier.

In udder words, if the team wins 37 games next seaon that might meet trueblue's "prediction" so he gets to say he was "right" but Isiah still sucks because they should have 48. How does this contradict what I said? It doesn't. But you want to argue the difference between a "prediction" and an "expectation"...I know you like to argue just to argue, but I get bored just thinking about it.

Just thought I would get that in there before this thread gets locked.
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8/10/2007  4:53 PM
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bippity - i made no such claim to having any singular (cough) knowledge of team building.

I'm talking about attentiveness, cohesion, influence, intuition, instinct, harmony, momentum and rhythm.

You have my sincere apology if those concepts exist outside your basketball vocabulary

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8/10/2007  4:54 PM
Posted by RemBee76:

Nope, just wasn't worth addressing further, like so many of the circular arguments here.

Lets be honest instead of arguing semantics. For the purpose of my argument there is no difference between saying this team should win 48 games but won't because it always dissappoints vs. a prediction of 48 wins...either way you get to complain that the team isn't meeting your expectations, just getting to do it earlier.

In udder words, if the team wins 37 games next seaon that might meet trueblue's "prediction" so he gets to say he was "right" but Isiah still sucks because they should have 48. How does this contradict what I said? It doesn't. But you want to argue the difference between a "prediction" and an "expectation"...I know you like to argue just to argue, but I get bored just thinking about it.

Just thought I would get that in there before this thread gets locked.

So your complaint is that people are unhappy with 37 wins? Gee, go figure. Can anyone really deny that the Knicks have underperformed for six straight years? If there's a hand in the house who wants to say that we've met expectations, please let's see it.
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8/10/2007  4:55 PM
On Second Thought

nah, let's add to the debate over lovers versus haters instead

like that makes more sense

sheesh
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8/10/2007  5:00 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by RemBee76:

Nope, just wasn't worth addressing further, like so many of the circular arguments here.

Lets be honest instead of arguing semantics. For the purpose of my argument there is no difference between saying this team should win 48 games but won't because it always dissappoints vs. a prediction of 48 wins...either way you get to complain that the team isn't meeting your expectations, just getting to do it earlier.

In udder words, if the team wins 37 games next seaon that might meet trueblue's "prediction" so he gets to say he was "right" but Isiah still sucks because they should have 48. How does this contradict what I said? It doesn't. But you want to argue the difference between a "prediction" and an "expectation"...I know you like to argue just to argue, but I get bored just thinking about it.

Just thought I would get that in there before this thread gets locked.

So your complaint is that people are unhappy with 37 wins? Gee, go figure. Can anyone really deny that the Knicks have underperformed for six straight years? If there's a hand in the house who wants to say that we've met expectations, please let's see it.

I thought they met expectations during the 23 win season. It was Larry Brown that didn't play that well.
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8/10/2007  5:05 PM
Posted by Bippity10:

I thought they met expectations during the 23 win season. It was Larry Brown that didn't play that well.

Seriously, man. These discussions are insulting to my intelligence at a fan. What would you say if your company was rather mediocre in the industry and continued to stagnate or worse? Then you go to the company meeting and the CEO talks about the company's "rapid growth" and how it's a market leader. You leave the meeting scratching your head, go back to your computer and ponder where the rapid growth is when the stock price has floundered around all time lows. Worse, others in the office continue discussing how we'll all be millionaires due to the great growth. And you continue to scratch your head.

Being in love with potential is one thing, but can we have discussions that are based in reality? Is that so hard?
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8/10/2007  5:09 PM
Posted by Solace:
So your complaint is that people are unhappy with 37 wins? Gee, go figure.

No, not remotely amigo. But not surprised you'd try to twist it that way.

Me? I have no complaints. I'm spending the week-end at the beach and word is its going to be in the high 70s low 80s with sunshine. Couldn't be better.

My original point (to bring it back because I have learned that posters here have the attention spans of 6 year olds), regardless of how many seasons this team has "underachieved", your saying that you should expect 48 wins (different from predict, remember, stay with me here) makes it fairly safe that you are going to be able to say they underachieved again come next season's end.

That is if they don't meet or exceed 48 wins. If they do, well, I guess you will always have the sexual harassment suit to hang your "hater" hat on.


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8/10/2007  5:18 PM
Posted by RemBee76:

My original point (to bring it back because I have learned that posters here have the attention spans of 6 year olds), regardless of how many seasons this team has "underachieved", your saying that you should expect 48 wins (different from predict, remember, stay with me here) makes it fairly safe that you are going to be able to say they underachieved again come next season's end.

If our players played to the level they're capable of, they should win 48... or more. Eny has called us the champions on paper before. This isn't a feeling only shared by the haters for the motive of bashing the team. We have talented players who can't pull it together. If they finally do, they will get my praise. That's all.

If you want to complain that people are going to complain about underachieving, those comments only surface because they are accurate. Sorry.
Posted by RemBee76:

That is if they don't meet or exceed 48 wins. If they do, well, I guess you will always have the sexual harassment suit to hang your "hater" hat on.

I've barely commented on AnuchaGate. So, no, not me. If Isiah crossed the line, I hope he's penalized. If he didn't, I hope he's not penalized. Simple enough for you?
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8/10/2007  5:22 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by martin:

just like you got all bent out of shape with COSSUCKS?

No, that is your stupid interpretation. I asked him a question and he refused to answer and sidestepped. Nice try. I suggest you reread that thread before commenting again, because you are clearly mistaken or mislead.

solace, you okay man? you seem like you've been taking some of this stuff way too personally lately.
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8/10/2007  5:26 PM
Posted by Marv:

solace, you okay man? you seem like you've been taking some of this stuff way too personally lately.

Just tired. It's been a long week. I have a lot on mind regarding things unrelated to this board.

I like coming here to chill, but lately the board has just been a mess. You can't have a reasonable discussion anywhere without getting jumped on. I can tell people aren't reading my posts or they're been translated to Greek upon posting, because some of what I get in response lately is just ridiculous. Then there's the gimmick posters, I'm getting fed up with those too. So, I'm a pit peeved. I'm tempted to take a break from the board for a while... which will probably make most of the posters happy.

I do appreciate the concern, though.

[Edited by - Solace on Aug 10 2007 5:27 PM]
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8/10/2007  5:28 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by Marv:

solace, you okay man? you seem like you've been taking some of this stuff way too personally lately.

Just tired. It's been a long week. I have a lot on mind regarding things unrelated to this board.

I like coming here to chill, but lately the board has just been a mess. You can't have a reasonable discussion anywhere without getting jumped on. I can tell people aren't reading my posts or they're been translated to Greek upon posting, because some of what I get in response lately is just ridiculous. Then there's the gimmick posters, I'm getting fed up with those too. So, I'm a pit peeved. I'm tempted to take a break from the board for a while... which will probably make most of the posters happy.

I do appreciate the concern, though.

[Edited by - Solace on Aug 10 2007 5:27 PM]

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8/10/2007  5:31 PM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by Solace:
Posted by Marv:

solace, you okay man? you seem like you've been taking some of this stuff way too personally lately.

Just tired. It's been a long week. I have a lot on mind regarding things unrelated to this board.

I like coming here to chill, but lately the board has just been a mess. You can't have a reasonable discussion anywhere without getting jumped on. I can tell people aren't reading my posts or they're been translated to Greek upon posting, because some of what I get in response lately is just ridiculous. Then there's the gimmick posters, I'm getting fed up with those too. So, I'm a pit peeved. I'm tempted to take a break from the board for a while... which will probably make most of the posters happy.

I do appreciate the concern, though.

[Edited by - Solace on Aug 10 2007 5:27 PM]

I would be devestated

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