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8/2/2007  3:56 PM
TKF I believe Marbury is hurting the team. I think the team bonded last season and Marburys erratic contraversial behavior could mess with that like it did in the past. It isnt too late but its August now so how about no more Marbury media for a month?. I dont think thats too much to ask. No other Knicks have this constant need to be in the media.
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8/2/2007  3:57 PM
No need to get upset Clones. I was just trying to discuss a point with TKF. If I'm a clone then why get upset anyway?
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8/2/2007  4:06 PM
Who's upset?
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8/2/2007  4:08 PM
Shut up and play SociopathBury.
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8/2/2007  4:09 PM
Posted by Panos:

Who's upset?

LOL you said I'm a clone so I must be.

By the way I mowed my lawn today. I have a large backyard. I noticed a big ant hill. What do you think? :)
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8/2/2007  4:09 PM
Posted by bobs3304:

Shut up and play SociopathBury.

Has anyone ever made a long list of all Marburys names? Is Spitbury taken?
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8/2/2007  4:20 PM
Would the Celtics be better had they not made the allen trade

West/Rondo
Wally/Allen
Pierce
KG/Davis
Perkins

#5 selection?
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8/2/2007  4:41 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:

TKF I believe Marbury is hurting the team. I think the team bonded last season and Marburys erratic contraversial behavior could mess with that like it did in the past. It isnt too late but its August now so how about no more Marbury media for a month?. I dont think thats too much to ask. No other Knicks have this constant need to be in the media.

I agree with that. he needs to shut the hell up, as of this moment.....
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8/2/2007  4:52 PM
Posted by MS:

Would the Celtics be better had they not made the allen trade

West/Rondo
Wally/Allen
Pierce
KG/Davis
Perkins

#5 selection?

Long run, possibly. Green is certainly a nice piece. Short run, no, Ray Allen is a hell of an improvement.
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8/2/2007  5:16 PM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by TMS:

he's got a right to talk about McHale if he wants, just like McHale has a right to respond if he wants... none of us know what went down between those 2 but them.

what bothered me about what Steph said was this:
"On paper, they're a really good team with guys who can really play, but they still have to get on the court and do it," Marbury said. "Chemistry is everything. We look good on paper, too, and we have a year under our belts.

Note to Steph:

we've been waiting for you to get on the court & do it ever since you got here... stop talking about other teams & start taking accountability for your own damn self for a change... you're supposed to be the best player on this team... you're supposed to be a leader... get out on the floor & do it.... stop talking about "we're going to do this & we're going to do that"... you say the same crap every season & every season you fail to deliver... talk is cheap... the time for talk is over... go out & show us something this year... show us why we should spend our money supporting this team that's disappointed us time & time again & failed to live up to expectations... can you do that? can you be a man & be accountable for the team's expectations going into this season instead of worrying about how other teams in the division are going to live up to theirs?

come on, there was nothing wrong with that comment. Now while you may have a few posters here cheering on what you said, I don't completely agree. All marbury said is what most players in this league would say. marbury likes and respects garnett, so he was not trying to take a dig at his buddy, he was just saying the game isn't played on paper and he went on to say, we look good on paper and have a year under our belt and we are still a 30+ win team. So if anything He took a dig at his own team it seems... I really don't see the big deal about what was said here fellas. Only if you are anti-marbury are these comments such a big problem!

tkf, u just acknowledged yourself pretty much that talk is cheap & that Marbury needs to shut up & let his play do the talking... how is that different? i'm sick of the rhetoric & the empty promises from this guy... "I'm going to average 12 assists this year" after the Zach trade... "We're going to make the playoffs" last season... "I'm the best PG in the NBA" the year before that... when are we going to see these things that he keeps blurting out is what I wanna know.
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8/2/2007  5:19 PM
Talk is cheap, and so are Steph's ugly sneakers.
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8/2/2007  5:22 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by TMS:

he's got a right to talk about McHale if he wants, just like McHale has a right to respond if he wants... none of us know what went down between those 2 but them.

what bothered me about what Steph said was this:
"On paper, they're a really good team with guys who can really play, but they still have to get on the court and do it," Marbury said. "Chemistry is everything. We look good on paper, too, and we have a year under our belts.

Note to Steph:

we've been waiting for you to get on the court & do it ever since you got here... stop talking about other teams & start taking accountability for your own damn self for a change... you're supposed to be the best player on this team... you're supposed to be a leader... get out on the floor & do it.... stop talking about "we're going to do this & we're going to do that"... you say the same crap every season & every season you fail to deliver... talk is cheap... the time for talk is over... go out & show us something this year... show us why we should spend our money supporting this team that's disappointed us time & time again & failed to live up to expectations... can you do that? can you be a man & be accountable for the team's expectations going into this season instead of worrying about how other teams in the division are going to live up to theirs?

come on, there was nothing wrong with that comment. Now while you may have a few posters here cheering on what you said, I don't completely agree. All marbury said is what most players in this league would say. marbury likes and respects garnett, so he was not trying to take a dig at his buddy, he was just saying the game isn't played on paper and he went on to say, we look good on paper and have a year under our belt and we are still a 30+ win team. So if anything He took a dig at his own team it seems... I really don't see the big deal about what was said here fellas. Only if you are anti-marbury are these comments such a big problem!

tkf, u just acknowledged yourself pretty much that talk is cheap & that Marbury needs to shut up & let his play do the talking... how is that different? i'm sick of the rhetoric & the empty promises from this guy... "I'm going to average 12 assists this year" after the Zach trade... "We're going to make the playoffs" last season... "I'm the best PG in the NBA" the year before that... when are we going to see these things that he keeps blurting out is what I wanna know.

Interesting that you don't acknowledge your boy Jamal as the main culprit of "We're going to make the playoffs" and for that matter I would like to throw David Lee into that same category. This is his second season of "We're going to make the playoffs. He threw in a definitely to boot.
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8/2/2007  5:23 PM
How would you like to be Telfair right now?

The guy is just hoping to keep an NBA job and before he even meets his new boss he has to walk in with this kind of baggage thanks to his cousin Marbury
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8/2/2007  5:28 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:

How would you like to be Telfair right now?

The guy is just hoping to keep an NBA job and before he even meets his new boss he has to walk in with this kind of baggage thanks to his cousin Marbury

Telfair has his own baggage to worry about. LOL, what's that saying what goes around ... I seem to remember a certain book that Telfair and his family had out and how they had input into Marbury and Brown's relationship. Seems bittersweet.
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8/2/2007  5:46 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

Interesting that you don't acknowledge your boy Jamal as the main culprit of "We're going to make the playoffs" and for that matter I would like to throw David Lee into that same category. This is his second season of "We're going to make the playoffs. He threw in a definitely to boot.

Interesting that neither of those guys makes nearly the big bucks that Marbury does, nor were they billed as being stars when they came here that could take this team to the next level and be leaders of this franchise

But that's fine, i have no problem holding either of those guys accountable either... everyone on this team needs to be accountable for their failure to live up to expectations... you of the narrow mind would assume that i hold Marbury completely accountable for this team's failures on his own, when that was never the case... but it is fair to say that responsibility & accountability needs to start with him being as though he likes to portray himself as 1 of the leaders on this team.
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8/2/2007  5:54 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Pharzeone:

Interesting that you don't acknowledge your boy Jamal as the main culprit of "We're going to make the playoffs" and for that matter I would like to throw David Lee into that same category. This is his second season of "We're going to make the playoffs. He threw in a definitely to boot.

Interesting that neither of those guys makes nearly the big bucks that Marbury does, nor were they billed as being stars when they came here that could take this team to the next level and be leaders of this franchise

But that's fine, i have no problem holding either of those guys accountable either... everyone on this team needs to be accountable for their failure to live up to expectations... you of the narrow mind would assume that i hold Marbury completely accountable for this team's failures on his own, when that was never the case... but it is fair to say that responsibility & accountability needs to start with him being as though he likes to portray himself as 1 of the leaders on this team.

I think Jamal was brought here as a possible plan B if Houston was not healthy enough to contribute so I will include him with Marbury and the guy is getting paid relative to his time in the NBA. Lee is feeling his own oats and his new status has a fan idol and he made those comments for a second time. Maybe they all feel that way. But I agree all need to be accountable.
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8/2/2007  6:38 PM
The best thing what to have said nothing or a contentless staement. But I mean c'mon you want him to tell everyone that the Celtics will win the East and how great they are? If he did that you'd be bashing him for throwing in the towel. ANd you want him to say that his own team surely will have trouble gelling? Even if he did beleive that there's noway in hell saying that would help the team out at all.

Posted by nyk4ever:

I could care less about Marbury dissing McHale, I really don't care about that but quit talking about the Celtics not being that good. If Garnett and Ray Allen were added to the Knicks, Marbury would have been the first person in the media talking about how great they were going to be and thered be no problems with gelling. I'm so sick of the constant public crap this guy shoves onto the New York Knicks.

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8/2/2007  6:41 PM
Posted by nykshaknbake:

The best thing what to have said nothing or a contentless staement. But I mean c'mon you want him to tell everyone that the Celtics will win the East and how great they are? If he did that you'd be bashing him for throwing in the towel. ANd you want him to say that his own team surely will have trouble gelling? Even if he did beleive that there's noway in hell saying that would help the team out at all.

Actually I wouldn't have bashed him for throwing in the towel. I would have praised him for being objective just once when he refused to keep his mouth closed in the press.


[Edited by - nyk4ever on 08-02-2007 6:43 PM]
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8/2/2007  6:42 PM
Why does he have to say anything at all? You see Jkidd in the press about it? Vince? Iggy? Dalembert? Bosh? Any other Knick? Would it be so awful if 3 days went by without a Marbury article this off season?
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8/2/2007  7:05 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:

Why does he have to say anything at all? You see Jkidd in the press about it? Vince? Iggy? Dalembert? Bosh? Any other Knick? Would it be so awful if 3 days went by without a Marbury article this off season?

Personally I don't want to see JKidd in the news. From everything I gather he has some serious issues off the court starting back in Dallas. Marbury's antics are fun to talk about it. I had it with Kidd when he filed for divorce claiming he was the victim of spousal abuse while his wife claimed he was. That sounds like something for Maury to get into.
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