Posted by fmoran:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by Pike:
- the mistake was not letting Ewing walk
- the mistake was trading for Rice
- the mistake was INEXPLICABLY giving Rice a 4 year 36MM contract when he only had one remaining when the trade was consummated
- the mistake was trading for 2006/07 Anderson/Rice ... personnel wise
HELLO, as you said, it was a CAP TRADE DISASTER...
I'm going to write a book... "How To Ruin A Franchise" by architect, Scott Layden... and doobie, you don't have to say for the 4th time, where did I say Layden's doing a good job... just quit while you're behind. If this were a prize fight, it would have been mercifully stoped long ago. (rolling eyes, shaking head)
LOL.. pike I have stopped responding to him, he is repeating the same stuff and doesn't get it, I KO'D his azz several posts ago and he just won't stop.. He wants us to give layden credit for Anderson and Russel!!! LOL!!!! And then he ask me to name him in the last 10 years other 2nd round picks that are better!!LOL.. I tell you he loves walking into these but here it goes..:
here is doobies post: how can you criticize someone for second round draft chioces? do yourself a favor, go look up all of the second round draft choices from the last 10 years and let me know how many play signifigant minutes, let alone are still in the league........then tell me if anderson and rusell are good picks......
Lucious Harris
Nick Van Exel. Yes the same guy tearing up the playoffs!!!
Voshon Lenard
Rebraca
Andrew Declerq
Eric snow
Othella Harrington
Moochie Norris
Want me to stop?
Hell no!!
Jeff Mcinnis
Malik Rose: Key minutes on a championship team!!
Mark Jackson
Alvin Williams!!
Chris crawford
Cuttino Mobley
Rashard Lewis!!!!!!!!!!
Shammond Williams
Ruben patterson
Tod Mccullough
Calvin Booth
Here I come off the Top Rope!!
Marco Jaric
Eduardo Najera , yes from the maverics!!
Gilbert Arenas!!!!!
Earl watson..
And guess what, this is not even a full 10 years!!!
Russel and Anderson Suck, I would take any of these guys on the list over them in a heartbeat!!
YOU HAVE JUST BEEN ERASED DOOBIE:
GOODBYE!!!
CLOWN!!
Isn't this entire post a contradiction? "I stopped replying to him" followed by a long ass reply to him? Ah well....
Everyone seems to agree Layden isn't a good overall GM: that means good drafting, signing, and trading. Fine. But was the Ewing deal a good one? Of course not. But you can only see that in retrospect, just like in the McDyess deal. Neither of them panned out, but they were both moves any good GM would have made and should have made.
EXACTLY!
instead of responding to pike and tkp seperatly, i will just post one response to both of you smart guys, since you seem to think with the same brain.....
please explain to me how you translate "Layden's hands were tied with the ewing situtaion" to "Layden is a great GM and has done a good job in New York?"
the points I was trying to make (and if you go back and read every one of my posts, I DID make them) were:
1. Layden does have a decent track record (tkp was saying that he had no track record when the knicks hired him) director of player personel for a team that made 2 nba finals and the playoffs for 20 yeas in a row IS a good track record.......
2. His hands were tied with ewing and he made the best deal possible AT THE TIME! did it work out? no, it did not....as tkp has shown us any moron can see that now.....
3. If you are looking for someone to blame for the demise of the knicks, it's the man who decided to make Layden he entire face of the franchise..........Jim Dolan. Layden was not hired originally to be the GM and he has hsown why. he should have stuck with head scout or player personel only.......GM is way too much to ask of him
THAT'S IT! I nver said he has done a great job or he is the right man for the job, these are the only 3 points i was trying to make.......hopefully this is clear enough for the little kids responding...........
[Edited by - spencerdoobie on 05/20/2003 20:17:46]
5/19/2003 4:48 PM
You might consider editing your work.