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TrueBlue
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7/17/2007  10:08 PM
Posted by JohnWallace44:

Come on bro, you taking me seriously? Yao is pretty easy to pick on.

For real though, if a player pulls crap like this and goes back home, fine do that, but you should never be allowed in the NBA again. Its not fair to the other teams.

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my bad if you were kidding around... i disagree w/ur point tho... players pull this stuff all the time... if we were to kick out every player who wanted to try & leverage their position to end up where they wanted, then there would be a ton of top talented players playing overseas right about now... how does that benefit the NBA in any way, shape or form?
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You have some names to throw out there? I can't think of anyone really.
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You can't be serious! We've named about 5 players in this thread alone who have attempted this. Stevie Wonder please get with the program.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 07-17-2007 9:22 PM]
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7/17/2007  10:49 PM
I thought we were talking international players for one.

I'm sure the world would have suffered greatly if Stevie never graced us with his line drive, backboard breaking jumper.
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7/17/2007  10:56 PM
Kobe Bryant?
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7/17/2007  10:59 PM
We should offer Morris and a protected 1st round pick for Yi. I know what he is doing leaves a bad taste in your mouth and he only looked so-so in summer league, but I firmly believe that in 3 years this kid is going to be very good. He moves like a SF with the height of a center, but also is strong enough to play PF and has a developing post game. It is going to take him a couple of years, but this kid is not a bust and he has far more potential than Morris.
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7/17/2007  11:06 PM
we're not getting him for Morris & a protected 1st rounder
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7/17/2007  11:07 PM
Posted by TheGame:

We should offer Morris and a protected 1st round pick for Yi. I know what he is doing leaves a bad taste in your mouth and he only looked so-so in summer league, but I firmly believe that in 3 years this kid is going to be very good. He moves like a SF with the height of a center, but also is strong enough to play PF and has a developing post game. It is going to take him a couple of years, but this kid is not a bust and he has far more potential than Morris.

He would get booed out of the building in this town. Think Frye was soft?
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7/17/2007  11:08 PM
Posted by TMS:

Kobe Bryant?

Remind me what happened with Charlotte here? Did he refuse to play for them?
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7/17/2007  11:15 PM
Posted by JohnWallace44:
Posted by TMS:

Kobe Bryant?

Remind me what happened with Charlotte here? Did he refuse to play for them?

Chris Webber who forced the Penny Hardaway Orlando Magic/GSW trade.
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7/17/2007  11:21 PM
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Yi & his camp gave MIL all the warnings to try & prevent this from happening... MIL chose to play hardball, so Yi's camp is returning the favor... it's business, nothing more, nothing less.

now it's up to MIL to try & get some value for him in a trade, because there's no way they are in any position of power on this one... i'm sorry to break that news to you guys who seem to think it's the NBA that's doing Yi a favor by "allowing" him to play here while profiting boatloads from marketing their game to all those Chinamen.

Do you think its ok for players to try and choose where they are going to go, TMS?

I just don't like that kind of stuff, no matter who you are. I am a Giants fan and I didn't even want Eli Manning when he pulled that card. I hate it. You are lucky enough to have the chance to play in the NBA when you are drafted and when you become a free-agent you can goto any team you desire but who are you when you haven't even played a second in this league? Thats what bothers me most.


I don't like it, but it's business... I also don't like sports teams using up players & then dumping them when it suits their purposes either... it's a 2 way street... MIL knew the risks going in & they chose to ignore them... i have absolutely no sympathy for them right now... they made their bed, now they gotta sleep in it... they could have easily swung a draft day trade & gotten a nice player in exchange for Yi if they weren't so dead set on playing hardball... i don't have a problem w/Yi & his handlers playing hardball now either.

you know, it may not seem right, but in life or in sports and even business, if someone is telling you they are not interested in joining your firm, going out on a date or being on your team, then you MOVE ON! There is no upside to drafting a guy who said he did not want to play for your organization, it was a dumb azz move by the bucks!
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7/17/2007  11:22 PM
Posted by TMS:



Yi has options because he's a desirable commodity... this is the same as when Kobe, Francis, Eli & all the rest tried to dictate where they would go too... these guys are using whatever leverage they can to make sure they go to a place where they'll be comfortable & enjoy playing while maximizing their marketing potential.


[Edited by - TMS on 07-17-2007 3:10 PM]

The only thing is ELI, Francis and Bryant showed something before they went pro, Yi struggled against highschool kids !

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7/17/2007  11:27 PM
Point is, if you're going to be a sally about where you make your first few million as a pro... we don't need you in the league.

If they let this go, its going to happen all the time. If the Bucks win the lottery this year and they want to take OJ Mayo with this in the recent past, do you think he'll decide to play there or to ask for a trade?
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7/17/2007  11:32 PM
Posted by playa2:
Posted by TMS:



Yi has options because he's a desirable commodity... this is the same as when Kobe, Francis, Eli & all the rest tried to dictate where they would go too... these guys are using whatever leverage they can to make sure they go to a place where they'll be comfortable & enjoy playing while maximizing their marketing potential.


[Edited by - TMS on 07-17-2007 3:10 PM]

The only thing is ELI, Francis and Bryant showed something before they went pro, Yi struggled against highschool kids !

Eli, Francis & Bryant showed something in College & High School competition... Yi impressed scouts while playing grown men in international level competition... what's the difference? when did Yi struggle against HS kids? i'm afraid i don't remember hearing about that one... are you talking about this season's SL?
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7/17/2007  11:33 PM
The league is rigged eversince the EWING deal in 1985, it just manifest's in different ways.
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7/17/2007  11:34 PM
Posted by JohnWallace44:

Point is, if you're going to be a sally about where you make your first few million as a pro... we don't need you in the league.

who's this "we" you're talking about? you mean you? you think David Stern & the NBA shares in that line of thinking?
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7/17/2007  11:43 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by JohnWallace44:

Point is, if you're going to be a sally about where you make your first few million as a pro... we don't need you in the league.

who's this "we" you're talking about? you mean you? you think David Stern & the NBA shares in that line of thinking?

Heh? What's more important to Stern? Having another Wang Zhi Zhi bust, or having small market teams maintain some amount of credability.

What if we had a high pick and drafted a guard, and he refused to come here because of the risk that he wouldn't get playing time? That's crazy. If you're not going to work within the rules of the league, why should you be let in at all?
Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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7/17/2007  11:52 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by playa2:
Posted by TMS:



Yi has options because he's a desirable commodity... this is the same as when Kobe, Francis, Eli & all the rest tried to dictate where they would go too... these guys are using whatever leverage they can to make sure they go to a place where they'll be comfortable & enjoy playing while maximizing their marketing potential.


[Edited by - TMS on 07-17-2007 3:10 PM]

The only thing is ELI, Francis and Bryant showed something before they went pro, Yi struggled against highschool kids !

when did Yi struggle against HS kids? i'm afraid i don't remember hearing about that one... are you talking about this season's SL?

Micheal Beasley laughed at Yi hype when the usa team had many young guys better then him on the team.

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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7/18/2007  12:09 AM
Posted by JohnWallace44:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by JohnWallace44:

Point is, if you're going to be a sally about where you make your first few million as a pro... we don't need you in the league.

who's this "we" you're talking about? you mean you? you think David Stern & the NBA shares in that line of thinking?

Heh? What's more important to Stern? Having another Wang Zhi Zhi bust, or having small market teams maintain some amount of credability.

What if we had a high pick and drafted a guard, and he refused to come here because of the risk that he wouldn't get playing time? That's crazy. If you're not going to work within the rules of the league, why should you be let in at all?

Wang Zhi Zhi was picked by DAL w/the 36th pick in '99 at the age of 22... Yi is being billed as having Dirk Nowitzki type upside & he's a top 10 lottery pick at the age of 19... a little different, wouldn't u say? how can you possibly know that Yi will be a bust? because he had a bad game vs. the Knicks in SL? come on man. the scouts are very high on this kid for a reason, which is why the NBA is so concerned about accomodating him & his camp here... they stand to make a ton of money off this kid if he pans out.

& get it straight, Yi isn't refusing to go to MIL because he's afraid of not getting playing time... he wants to be in a better market... if some kid refused to come play in NY, i wouldn't want him here, but i wouldn't begrudge his right to play this game & make money in this league, i don't care what country he's from.
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7/18/2007  1:03 AM
Posted by JohnWallace44:

Point is, if you're going to be a sally about where you make your first few million as a pro... we don't need you in the league.

If they let this go, its going to happen all the time. If the Bucks win the lottery this year and they want to take OJ Mayo with this in the recent past, do you think he'll decide to play there or to ask for a trade?


They have let it go GEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZ!!! That's why Yi's camp is doing this, they've seen it done in the past by American ball players and other American professional athletes and they are following suit. Is it good that Stern has let this go on for many years No! but Yi shouldn't be the one made an example of. And sure nough Stern has got involved because he knows what the ramifications would be if made an example of Yi. Stern will strongly suggest the issue get resolved and rest assured that's with the consideration of Yi remaining in the league and he'll play damage control after it's over to prevent this from happening again. One would hope at least. At the time Kobe through his HISSY FIT entering the draft(with his ties to Italy) everyone should have wanted to see him deported to the Italian League but I didn't hear such ramblings at the time.
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7/18/2007  8:52 AM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by JohnWallace44:

Point is, if you're going to be a sally about where you make your first few million as a pro... we don't need you in the league.

If they let this go, its going to happen all the time. If the Bucks win the lottery this year and they want to take OJ Mayo with this in the recent past, do you think he'll decide to play there or to ask for a trade?


They have let it go GEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZ!!! That's why Yi's camp is doing this, they've seen it done in the past by American ball players and other American professional athletes and they are following suit. Is it good that Stern has let this go on for many years No! but Yi shouldn't be the one made an example of. And sure nough Stern has got involved because he knows what the ramifications would be if made an example of Yi. Stern will strongly suggest the issue get resolved and rest assured that's with the consideration of Yi remaining in the league and he'll play damage control after it's over to prevent this from happening again. One would hope at least. At the time Kobe through his HISSY FIT entering the draft(with his ties to Italy) everyone should have wanted to see him deported to the Italian League but I didn't hear such ramblings at the time.

If Yi is treated different, its because the circumstances are different.

Yi isn't the one making the decision- Team China is - and they're an operative of a govt.
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7/18/2007  9:36 AM
Posted by tkf:

you know, it may not seem right, but in life or in sports and even business, if someone is telling you they are not interested in joining your firm, going out on a date or being on your team, then you MOVE ON! There is no upside to drafting a guy who said he did not want to play for your organization, it was a dumb azz move by the bucks!

It was a dumb move... but that's the whole point of the draft. The player isn't supposed to get to choose where they want to go. The teams select based on a pre-determined order.

I think your analogy is a little off because the draft throws off the idea of calling every team a company. Instead of think of it this way. Think of the NBA as one large organization. Each team could be considered a division. So, you signed with the company, but perhaps weren't assigned to the division you wanted. At this point, there's no way you're getting a transfer to a different division. You certainly could choose to quit the company and go to a different company (like Euroleague).

What needs to be stopped is a player refusing to play out a rookie contract somewhere. It's very bad for the league when that happens... just as it's bad for a company when they bring in a new hire who quits right away.
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