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6/21/2007  10:51 PM
http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/
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In the real world, which is increasingly divorced from the one in the media, the story has never changed:

Bryant isn't going anywhere. The Lakers aren't talking to Chicago or anyone else.

Not that the Lakers aren't upset (note to Kobe: if you're looking for more reasons to leave, here's another one) but they're not remotely inclined to trade him.

Despite suggestions they're losing leverage, two years from Bryant's opt-out clause in his contract, they have it all.

In a year, the leverage will shift to Bryant but in the meantime, there's no reason for the Lakers to hold their fire sale early.

The Lakers have two options: 1) Trade Bryant and start over; 2) Hope to have a great season that persuades him to stay. Otherwise, trade him and start over.


Yep that's what Isles and I were saying.
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6/21/2007  11:15 PM
Most of us don't feel that Kobe was some kind of LOCK to be traded here. The only thing we've been saying is that if he's to be traded we'd be a serious option mainly due to the limited teams he'd be willing to accept a trade to. Not because we had the best package anyone could come up with, but the best package that might be on the table. Most of the teams he'd like to be traded to are doing well enough how they are now and it would be a major risk to break that up and basically start over with kobe. In our case we're not a team with an established success record and so we can more easily accept a major shake up.

Now all of this is predicated on the Lakers getting fed up and wanting to move Kobe, which is admittedly still a long shot, but with each day and each new Kobe revelation the chances increase.
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6/21/2007  11:24 PM
Posted by nixluva:

Most of us don't feel that Kobe was some kind of LOCK to be traded here. The only thing we've been saying is that if he's to be traded we'd be a serious option mainly due to the limited teams he'd be willing to accept a trade to. Not because we had the best package anyone could come up with, but the best package that might be on the table. Most of the teams he'd like to be traded to are doing well enough how they are now and it would be a major risk to break that up and basically start over with kobe. In our case we're not a team with an established success record and so we can more easily accept a major shake up.

Now all of this is predicated on the Lakers getting fed up and wanting to move Kobe, which is admittedly still a long shot, but with each day and each new Kobe revelation the chances increase.


The major argument in this thread and the other Kobe threads was the leverage Kobe has and it's very limited at this point as Isles and I stated.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-21-2007 10:28 PM]
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Posted by nixluva:

Most of us don't feel that Kobe was some kind of LOCK to be traded here. The only thing we've been saying is that if he's to be traded we'd be a serious option mainly due to the limited teams he'd be willing to accept a trade to. Not because we had the best package anyone could come up with, but the best package that might be on the table. Most of the teams he'd like to be traded to are doing well enough how they are now and it would be a major risk to break that up and basically start over with kobe. In our case we're not a team with an established success record and so we can more easily accept a major shake up.

Now all of this is predicated on the Lakers getting fed up and wanting to move Kobe, which is admittedly still a long shot, but with each day and each new Kobe revelation the chances increase.

So we have a bright future, yet we're one of the very few teams according to you that has a crappy enough core that it would be worthwhile to just start over with Kobe?

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 21-06-2007 11:27 PM]
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Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by nixluva:

Most of us don't feel that Kobe was some kind of LOCK to be traded here. The only thing we've been saying is that if he's to be traded we'd be a serious option mainly due to the limited teams he'd be willing to accept a trade to. Not because we had the best package anyone could come up with, but the best package that might be on the table. Most of the teams he'd like to be traded to are doing well enough how they are now and it would be a major risk to break that up and basically start over with kobe. In our case we're not a team with an established success record and so we can more easily accept a major shake up.

Now all of this is predicated on the Lakers getting fed up and wanting to move Kobe, which is admittedly still a long shot, but with each day and each new Kobe revelation the chances increase.

So we have a bright future, yet we're one of the very few teams according to you that has a crappy enough core that it would be worthwhile to just start over with Kobe?

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 21-06-2007 11:27 PM]

LOL I didn't even catch that good one Bonn!

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-21-2007 10:30 PM]
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Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by nixluva:

Most of us don't feel that Kobe was some kind of LOCK to be traded here. The only thing we've been saying is that if he's to be traded we'd be a serious option mainly due to the limited teams he'd be willing to accept a trade to. Not because we had the best package anyone could come up with, but the best package that might be on the table. Most of the teams he'd like to be traded to are doing well enough how they are now and it would be a major risk to break that up and basically start over with kobe. In our case we're not a team with an established success record and so we can more easily accept a major shake up.

Now all of this is predicated on the Lakers getting fed up and wanting to move Kobe, which is admittedly still a long shot, but with each day and each new Kobe revelation the chances increase.

So we have a bright future, yet we're one of the very few teams according to you that has a crappy enough core that it would be worthwhile to just start over with Kobe?

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 21-06-2007 11:27 PM]

sorta like how the Celtics were trying to start over with KG i guess... funny how KG didn't want to go there when they have such a bright future.
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6/22/2007  11:46 AM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by nixluva:

Most of us don't feel that Kobe was some kind of LOCK to be traded here. The only thing we've been saying is that if he's to be traded we'd be a serious option mainly due to the limited teams he'd be willing to accept a trade to. Not because we had the best package anyone could come up with, but the best package that might be on the table. Most of the teams he'd like to be traded to are doing well enough how they are now and it would be a major risk to break that up and basically start over with kobe. In our case we're not a team with an established success record and so we can more easily accept a major shake up.

Now all of this is predicated on the Lakers getting fed up and wanting to move Kobe, which is admittedly still a long shot, but with each day and each new Kobe revelation the chances increase.

So we have a bright future, yet we're one of the very few teams according to you that has a crappy enough core that it would be worthwhile to just start over with Kobe?

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 21-06-2007 11:27 PM]

sorta like how the Celtics were trying to start over with KG i guess... funny how KG didn't want to go there when they have such a bright future.

K.G. wants to win not tomorrow but more like yesterday and if you would do a better job reading the articles you'd also know that one of his stipulations to bolt Minny is to go to a warmer climate. Boston ain't that weatherman. So the early reports say he wants Phx since he doesn't want to go to at the moment Dallas, SA, Detroit, Houston does that also mean they don't have a bright future?

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-22-2007 10:48 AM]
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6/25/2007  7:38 PM
Ric Bucher just said from Kobe's camp F' the Lakers trying to get K.G. I still want out.

That would potentially sabatoge a K.G. deal. Why would K.G. want to go there if Kobe's heart isn't there? Of course that's even if a deal can get done.
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