Posted by bitty41:
Briggs,
I have question for you or really anyone who thinks we automatically will have the best team if Kobe comes to NY. You have Curry whose only success came when he was the vocal point of the offense. Not to mention the Knicks would lose most of their rebouding and any sort of defensive presence under the basket. Now he would essentially have to revamp himself into a center that rebounds and gets most of his scoring from putbacks and being a possible distant 2nd option on offense now would you say that Curry has been successful in those situations?
In the proposed deal we lose Lee and Frye, but those aren't the only rebounders we have. We are a strong rebounding team because we get a lot of bounds from the other positions. We already agreed that Curry is gonna have to hit the boards more anyway, so nothing changes in that regard. We know he CAN bound, it's a matter of his finding more consistency in his effort level. It's likely that Balkman, Jared and if he's here Morris, would have to fill in. Don't forget Q and Mardy who are very strong rebounders. We'll get enough rebounding to win.
Posted by bitty41:
Secondly there is Marbury who has shown time and time again that he is primarily a scoring point guard. Marbury has played with Amare Stoudamire, Shawn Marion, and in his prime Keith Van Horn; Marbury had no successes playing with any of these guys but now you bring in a scorer who is probably 20 times more demanding of the ball and shots; and Marbury will become his set-up man?
It's not true that Steph hasn't had success playing with other players. They all had big numbers playing with steph, but WINNING is a more complex issue. In terms of those guys being very productive when they played with Steph, it's a FACT that they all had some of their best seasons with him. Understand that KG and Amare were very new to the league and hadn't yet peaked, but for their level of development they played well. Still guys like Marion and KVH had great seasons playing with him. The TEAMS may not have won, but there's more to that than how Steph played and you know that.
Posted by bitty41:
Thirdly how would this Knicks team be any different than Iverson 76ers team or the high scoring Gilbert Arenas Wizards, Michael Redd Bucks, Vince Carter Nets and Paul Pierce Celtics? Now obvisously Kobe is better than all of these players but still at the end of the day your talking about high scoring guards who can only take their team to either a first round exit or no playoff appearance at all. What makes NY so much different why would they be the exception to the rule?
NONE of those guys had a DOMINANT offensive Center. We DO!!! You must really underestimate how good Curry is in terms of scoring. The guy would flourish with Kobe playing with him. Kobe can teach Curry how to play a two man game with him and as a team they'd be THE most potent team in the East. All Kobe needed was just a LITTLE help and he could've advanced in the playoffs. Well we have that help for him. He didn't have a PG like Steph next to him this year and he certainly didn't have a Center like Curry.
Posted by bitty41:
Finally lets take the teams around the league which I think most of us would agree are the elite teams. Are they teams that center around a scoring machine with very little involvement from his teammates or are they teams that yes have a big player on their squad but they still have strong benches and 2 or 3 other legitimate scoring options. These teams also have vetran leaders who can knock down big shots when needed. So would the Knicks fit into this category if Kobe comes to NY?
KOBE, CURRY & STEPH!
[Edited by - nixluva on 06-17-2007 12:32 PM]
6/17/2007 4:23 PM