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PresIke
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5/30/2007  4:03 PM
Posted by semperknick:

For what it's worth, I think we need to keep as a minimum:
- one of Frye or Curry, preferably Curry
- one of DLee or Balkman, preferably DLee
- Mardy Collins

The rest of the current roster I would make available in any combination. And if we keep the pick, draft Marco Belinelli as a designated sharpshooter. All the best teams inteh league have EUrope-trained players on their rosters,and there is a reason for that.

Generally, I agree, but I think it's going to be hard to do that. The deal I proposed works without Balkman, so that would work, but I would think it might not be enough to get Kobe, unless he REALLY pushes for NY.
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kam77
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5/30/2007  4:09 PM
Kobe needs a post player more than he needs a garbage man.

Curry should be the last guy offered in a deal.

Frye ain't enough. Odom > Frye.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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5/30/2007  4:09 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by Elite:

Jamal/Frye/Francis/Isiah/Lenny Wilkins/Patrick Ewing for Kobe. Do it

LOL. Don't forget to throw in Mike Breen.

Way to sabotage the trade. ;)
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5/30/2007  4:11 PM
I smell Celtics
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5/30/2007  4:13 PM
Posted by Cookdcokehop:

I smell Celtics

you also smell Oneil to the Knicks.
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5/30/2007  4:18 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by Cookdcokehop:

I smell Celtics

you also smell Oneil to the Knicks.

hahaha
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5/30/2007  4:35 PM
Get KOME some meds and a pacifier this guy is total baby I can't believe what he's doing.
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5/30/2007  4:40 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:

Get KOME some meds and a pacifier this guy is total baby I can't believe what he's doing.

what's so wrong with complaining if you think that your owner/manager lied to you?

If your boss promised you a raise and it didn't come through would you be pissed?
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5/30/2007  4:41 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by Cookdcokehop:

I smell Celtics

you also smell Oneil to the Knicks.

Lol I know I said quote me, but with this blockbuster news I think all focus has turned to Kobe...if that trade doesnt happen then Oneal will be a knick
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5/30/2007  4:43 PM
If you think we offered alot for Curry then you aint seen nothin after Zeke makes this trade proposal No first round picks forver
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5/30/2007  4:46 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by TrueBlue:

Get KOME some meds and a pacifier this guy is total baby I can't believe what he's doing.

what's so wrong with complaining if you think that your owner/manager lied to you?

If your boss promised you a raise and it didn't come through would you be pissed?


You either man up and stand behind being traded or you STFU. No need to tell Steven A. Nothing can change the way I feel and then within hours start backtracking to Dan Patrick. He's what I said he was, an ATTENTION WHORE!

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 05-30-2007 3:47 PM]
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5/30/2007  4:55 PM
Kobe can't the lakers over the hump, how does he help us?

Maybe Kobe/Curry is a duo that can go far.

It all depends on what it costs to make it happen.

But yea- I don't think he gets traded, and if he does- Chicago has a ton of chips that they can deal and still not give everything up.

Perhaps Ben Wallace gets packaged with Gordon & Deng?
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5/30/2007  4:57 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by martin:
Posted by TrueBlue:

Get KOME some meds and a pacifier this guy is total baby I can't believe what he's doing.

what's so wrong with complaining if you think that your owner/manager lied to you?

If your boss promised you a raise and it didn't come through would you be pissed?


You either man up and stand behind being traded or you STFU. No need to tell Steven A. Nothing can change the way I feel and then within hours start backtracking to Dan Patrick. He's what I said he was, an ATTENTION WHORE!

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 05-30-2007 3:47 PM]

has it been confirmed that he back-tracked on DPatrick show? what are the details?

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5/30/2007  5:01 PM
Posted by franco12:

Kobe can't the lakers over the hump, how does he help us?

Maybe Kobe/Curry is a duo that can go far.

It all depends on what it costs to make it happen.

But yea- I don't think he gets traded, and if he does- Chicago has a ton of chips that they can deal and still not give everything up.

Perhaps Ben Wallace gets packaged with Gordon & Deng?

Yes CHI has some nice young pieces but face it the Lakes aren't competing for a CHIP and nothing LA gets from CHI will put them over the top in the loaded WEST. Wallace is old and about to break down and still has 3 yrs 45mil on his deal.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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5/30/2007  5:08 PM
He really backtracked what he said!!! What a bitch!!!!

[Edited by - cookdcokehop on 30-05-2007 5:31 PM]
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5/30/2007  5:57 PM
I just watched Pardon The Interruption on ESPN (I never watch ESPN anymore, except for big news or games) with some LA reporter who said that Kobe did tone down the rhetoric somewhat after speaking on a few other talk shows but he thinks that Kobe is serious about wanting to leave, and that it is more likely that the Lakers may be forced to move him after next season since he can opt out after the next year.

The Jerry West thing (which that guy Wilbon was so sure would be magic) he said was not going to work because the Lakers have so few assets that it isn't like he can make some kind of miracle happen out of nothing and over the cap.

He then said "If I see 212 on the phone I'm not answering because the Knicks have nothing that the Lakers want." Which I think is complete typical b.s. about the Knicks from the press. Wilbon (?) said before that "You know the NY Knicks want to peddle off all of their players..." as if there are zero players that Isiah wants to keep. Shows you, IMHO, how ridiculous the anti-Knick rhetoric is in the sports talk world. I'm sure the Lakers wouldn't like Lee and Curry as part of a package (not saying the Knicks should do that). I swear some of these dudes don't watch any games or watch very few at all.
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5/30/2007  6:35 PM
Posted by PresIke:

I just watched Pardon The Interruption on ESPN (I never watch ESPN anymore, except for big news or games) with some LA reporter who said that Kobe did tone down the rhetoric somewhat after speaking on a few other talk shows but he thinks that Kobe is serious about wanting to leave, and that it is more likely that the Lakers may be forced to move him after next season since he can opt out after the next year.

The Jerry West thing (which that guy Wilbon was so sure would be magic) he said was not going to work because the Lakers have so few assets that it isn't like he can make some kind of miracle happen out of nothing and over the cap.

He then said "If I see 212 on the phone I'm not answering because the Knicks have nothing that the Lakers want." Which I think is complete typical b.s. about the Knicks from the press. Wilbon (?) said before that "You know the NY Knicks want to peddle off all of their players..." as if there are zero players that Isiah wants to keep. Shows you, IMHO, how ridiculous the anti-Knick rhetoric is in the sports talk world. I'm sure the Lakers wouldn't like Lee and Curry as part of a package (not saying the Knicks should do that). I swear some of these dudes don't watch any games or watch very few at all.

ike, what are the true value of our guys? what kind of player can they truly yield? do you really think we are in the running for possibly the best player in the league?

look at it from the lakers point of view, what does curry give them? he's never played in a playoff game. they would still have to make another major deal to get a perimeter player to help their cause. and they're not getting cap relief from our package. and even talking from a business perspective, they sell out games b/c of kobe. they sell a TON of jerseys and they're on tv B/C of kobe. without a superstar, they're like everybody else.

guys like kg and kobe - they're out of our range. i think that's basically reality.

we may get into the jermaine running - but that's because he's a full tier below kg and kobe.

at this point in time, i look at us on par with atlanta. they have just as much youth yet none of it has translated to anything positive. but again, they have a shot to right some of their wrongs with 2 lotto picks. and we have to hope curry b/c something special.

but back to kobe, it's a moot point. lakers would be stupid to trade him, but wilbon is right, there really is nothing many teams can offer to make the lakers bite, and we're one of them.

i mean, we had a thread saying crawford + frye was too much to give up for rashard. that's donwright idiotic. shard is not superstar, but he's 6'10, plays SF, grabs 7 boards and is one of the better perimeter shooters in the league, yet the package mentioned was too much?
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5/30/2007  6:37 PM
i'd give craw and frye for shard in a second. Frye is never gonna be anything in NY. PERIOD.
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5/30/2007  6:37 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by TrueBlue:

dj with him coming otu saying this Lakers aren't in the hunt anymore to get any big chipper out there. What's the incentive for other teams to give their pieces away when Kobe wants out?

This has only 2 endings PERIOD. Buss doesn't buckle under pressure and waits till the storm settles some or they move quickly on trading KOME.

During the interview he said there's nothing they can say and of the 2 main reasons he wants a trade 1 of them has to deal with Trust. So why would Kome trust them that they could land K.G., J.O., ect etc

if i'm the lakers, there's no way i trade kobe. and i make a big time move packaging odom + bynum.


Odom is damaged goods right now, he has about as much value as Marbury. Bynum is an asset but he's on a rookie scale salary, which will make it difficult to move him without a miracle involved. Every outsider that has given input on the Laker situation so far has said they don't have any options(other than moving Kobe) and other GM's in the league see this.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 05-30-2007 5:39 PM]
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5/30/2007  6:38 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by TrueBlue:

dj with him coming otu saying this Lakers aren't in the hunt anymore to get any big chipper out there. What's the incentive for other teams to give their pieces away when Kobe wants out?

This has only 2 endings PERIOD. Buss doesn't buckle under pressure and waits till the storm settles some or they move quickly on trading KOME.

During the interview he said there's nothing they can say and of the 2 main reasons he wants a trade 1 of them has to deal with Trust. So why would Kome trust them that they could land K.G., J.O., ect etc

if i'm the lakers, there's no way i trade kobe. and i make a big time move packaging odom + bynum.


Odom is damaged goods right, he has about as much value as Marbury. Bynum is an asset but on a rookie scale salary which will make it difficult to move him without a miracle involved. Every outsider that has given input on the Laker situation so far has said they don't have any options and other GM's in the league see this.
Shard is also damaged goods.
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