Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by nixluva:

You had to know this would be a tough game to win. We're a very mistake prone team to begin with and our margin for error with the Mavs is gonna be very slim. I think the Knicks played hard, just not very smart.

We just have to shake this one off and go get the next game. It STINKS that we don't have all of our guys. I really wanted to see what this team could do at this time of year with a relatively healthy team. At least NJ lost and Indy is in a tough spot in Houston. We have to try and get healthy for Portland and Cleve.

A team making evident progress isn't this mistake prone this late in the season are they? You were confident they were going to give this team a fight tonight.
[Edited by - TrueBlue on 03-20-2007 9:09 PM]

OH SHUT UP!!! You're gonna use this game to try to make your point? We came into this game undermanned and it got worse during the game. No one thought we'd actually win and in order for this team to be competitve we'd have to play one of our best games. That didn't happen, but that doesn't prove anything. I think the Knicks gave a good effort, but they just didn't finish off enough plays. We got to the rim and didn't finish. We got to the line and didn't finish. You truly don't know what you're talking about or what you're looking at. GO TO BED ALREADY WITH YOUR LAME POSTS!!!

Did you forget what you posted on page 1 of this thread? Not one mention or concern about being undermanned. I saw a team that does what they normally do make a ton of boneheaded plays, like throwing cross court passes into the stands, not running fast breaks correctly, running the shot clock down, poor shot selection, etc etc. Dallas was toying with this team the first half and put the pedal to the metal in the second half with studly Diop and Austin getting major burn.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 03-20-2007 9:32 PM]

Hey I don't know what you think I was trying to say, but obviously you didn't read it very carefully. You make it sound like I actually thought we win. I was HOPEFUL that we'd be able to put up a fight. Is it really necessary to go on about a loss to the best team in the league? I mean really? You look very petty going after the Knicks after a game like this.

" think the Mavs will get their attention tho. How can you be overconfident against them? This will be a stiff challenge. We can't afford to spot them a huge lead like we do everyone else. We need to keep it close and slow down their pace. I'm encouraged by the way we tend to play the better teams. I think they'll be sharp and ready to play. Will it be enough? Well this isn't just another team so the chances are slim we can hold them off for 4 qtrs. We just have to hope that they aren't as energized as usual.
If they're off their game a bit and we can have one of our better games this could be interesting."

Clearly in my 1st post I was giving us a shot ONLY if things broke our way. The Knicks played hard, but that's not enough against a team like Dallas. We needed to execute in every facet of the game. This team went against them already in weakened state and thus our margin for error was reduced more than it normally would be. You want to just ignore that fact that's fine, but it's still the truth.

We played hard in the 1st half and then we had a real breakdown in the 3rd, game over. We had to keep it close to have a chance. Steph didn't have a good game and we obviously need that with so many of our key players out. Francis also not having a good game clinched it. I think we are capable of playing better and i'm sure even you know that.

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by tkf:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by tkf:

Dallas doesn't really defend either. we just make it easy..

And running our offense through a man who is near the top of the league in FT attempts but can't hit FT's is a problem.. We call that a rally killer...

How many close shots did our bigs miss tonight, jeffries, frye, curry and balkman especially... geez.. what a train wreck...

But hey. curry had 20/12 right? keep cashing those checks fellas...

Lather, Wash, Rinse, Repeat


Same Ol Same Ol


Oh and Curry had the most empty stats tonight if I ever saw one. When they showed his stat line late in the 4rth vs counterpart I refused to believe it and still do. This guy is a miserable anchor. He's nothing more than a role player.
[Edited by - TrueBlue on 03-20-2007 9:17 PM]

and guess what happens when you thrust role players into the position of team franchise player?

What?

you get a team that is 7 games under .500 with no leader, and no consistency..

I thought you knew the answer to that one...

Posted by tkf:

you get a team that is 7 games under .500 with no leader, and no consistency..

I thought you knew the answer to that one...

Cute joke, but it's nowhere near true. There's a difference between being a bad team and having a bad game. The Knicks are basically playing at a .500 level, but you have to allow for some degree of slack due to the fact that they're missing 3 of their top players statiscally. Guys who played major minutes for this team. It's highly likely that this team could've been playing some of it's best ball of the season if we had a couple of those guys playing. Let's hope we can get them back at some point before it's too late.

Posted by nyk4ever:

Knicks record after 20 games: 7-13
Knicks record after 30 games: 12-18
Knicks record after 40 games: 17-23
Knicks record after 50 games: 22-28
Knicks record after 60 games: 27-33

Anyone notice a trend?

Have the Knicks really shown ANYTHING this year? This mantra that the team is playing better as each month goes by is ridiculous when you look at this. This team even when it was at full strength was still Win One-Lose One.

Ahhhh, the epitome of mediocrity sure smells good in the morning.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 03-20-2007 11:54 PM]

Some fans will continue to ignore this. What I've been looking for is increased consistent production from the remaining top players and that hasn't been the case during this stretch of injuries.

Posted by NYKresurrection:

PREDICTION: Balkman gets 13pts & 13rebs / Frye gets 20pts & 7rebs / Marbury gets 25pts & 11ast / Francis gets 17pts & 6rebs 3ast / Curry gets 18pts & 6rebs / Nate gets 12pts and the rest is up for grabs !!!

Missed it by T H A T much.

Man reading this thread you would believe we just just got toasted by the worst team in the league. The team is better and winning more games each month, why go threw this after every single lost????

no one would be bitching about any of this if we had just taken care of business against NOK.

Posted by nyk4ever:

No excuses for this game. Even Avery Johnson said in the pregame "maybe the Knicks shouldnt even leave the locker room" after he heard Isiah's comments. Undermanned, all those other excuses they are all ways of sedating the fans before the game even starts so its not a letdown. YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME.

Did Avery really say that?

Posted by K22:

Posted by BlueSeats:

Some guys look very natural in a suit. David Lee is not one of them.

It's the curly mini-fro that kills it.

i'm just mad we didn't get to see david lee in uniform when they wore the green. biggest leprechaun ever.

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by nixluva:

I still don't get the point some of you are trying to make. If this WAS us losing games with Lee, Jamal and Q, then I could see your point, but we haven't had those guys for lot of these games, so how do you know that they wouldn't have made a difference. You can't compare how we did with them in the past to now, CUZ THEYRE NOT PLAYING!!!! I feel that they would've been playing better and helping us to win some of these games that we lost by small margins. I think it's fair to say that at full strength we'd be a bit more potent.

It's been clear watching the games that we miss what those guys brought to the game. Steph had a rare off night and we had little else. If we have our other guys there's chance that they might be on and we can still mount a decent attack offensively. With Lee we might get a few more tough rebounds. I just think it's being way to hard on the team to expect that they could play this long without those guys and not experience some problems at some point.

We have to hope that the team regroups and get's ready to beat Portland and Cleveland. This one is over and it's on to the next game.

And the same can be said when the Knicks played

Toronto without Jose Calderon

Golden State without Baron Davis and Stephen Jackson

Orlando without Trevor Ariza

Miami without Wade

Screw Jose Calderon! Are you kidding me? I don't care if he was in that game or not, we were missing FAR more important players than he is to that team. REALLY is that even worth bringing up?

GS was on equal footing with us without those two. They still had Monta Ellis and JR. We didn't have some of our top players either.

Mentioning Trevor Ariza is a JOKE! Even with him they aren't that much different.

I fail to see any comparison between Miami, a championship team, and the Knicks who are struggling to be .500 when fully healthy. If we lose 3 of our top players that's gonna hurt us a lot. Usually Championship teams are deep and have more resistance to losing a player. This is obvious by watching them play recently without Wade. They're still very potent and capable. We've been getting by, but it's clear that we've lost a LOT with those guys not being able to play. I think with their help we can get over the hump against some of these teams we've lost to this month. NOT including Dallas. We still might lose to them, but some of these other games may have been a different outcome.

Posted by Bippity10:

I've noticed that no matter who is missing we still win one lose one. Because every player on the team is about as good as the guy in front of him there really is noone on the roster that affects our record win or lose. It's time to consolidate the talent. Turn the depth into a trade that can bring in a player that improves on some of our weaknesses so that we can actually take a step up in wins and losses instead of constantly for two years making god darn excuses.

I agree, been saying it for two years now. It's the equivilant of having 5 #3 pitchers in baseball instead of a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.