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Thoughts on Curry v. Bynum
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islesfan
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1/31/2007  1:19 PM
Posted by oohah:

I like Bynum. He reminds me of a young Eddie Curry. Especially the way everybody is falling all over themselves about how good he will be when his talent and experience come together. Just like they did about Curry when he was 19.

oohah

Aside from the fact that Bynum is already a better rebounder, shot blocker, defender and passer than Curry you make a great point.

And I don't even have to extrapolate Bynum's numbers over 35 minutes to do it.
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1/31/2007  1:44 PM
All those teams that you mention have a ton of cap space, the bobcats have a positive future because they are sitting tight, the bulls have made the playoffs the past two years and their younger players are maturing, the grizzles have some young talent and a player that everyone wants and will instantly have cap room if they move him....

Isiah has ****ed the franchise with his contracts and marginal talent. Frye is not really all that hot of a commodity anymore. Last year we could have had boozer or odom who is unstoppable by the way and far better than anyone on the knicks.

If you think teams are lining up for our young talent your mistaken, Lee is the player that any winning team would want, but if you were a team you would much rather have Thomas, Deng, and Gordon because they do a variety of different things well, Thomas we will have to wait and see but the knicks big man aside from Lee only do one thing. Frye shoot the ball (if you think he has anything else to his game your on drugs) Curry is a dumb player with an amazing post game, can;t handle the double probably because Cato mentioned Isiah doesn't practice doing it in practice....

Any if i posted last years stats i apologize but he was second to last and i don't see him that high on the list this year.
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1/31/2007  2:18 PM
Bynum looked like he was playing on ludes last night. He looked like he could care less--PJ left him in the 1st Q to pick up that 3rd foul likely on purpose. He did come out with a spark in the 2nd half and somehate disappeared. He plays like this once in awhile--seemingly out of the play--you have to chalk it up to the reality is that he is a 19 year old kid who still needs a tremendous amount of strength and conditioning work. While he has an NBA frame--just think back to when you were 19 and compare it to 23. He's played very well--I'm sure they couldnt be more pleased--but last night was not a good night for him. I think I posted something previously that there was a good chance that Curry could get him in FT. That being said--there was a lot of things he usually does--that he didnt do. It's very hard and unfair to compare the two players right now.
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1/31/2007  4:49 PM
Briggs you sound like bynum's dad or something.
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1/31/2007  5:55 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

Bynum looked like he was playing on ludes last night. He looked like he could care less--PJ left him in the 1st Q to pick up that 3rd foul likely on purpose. He did come out with a spark in the 2nd half and somehate disappeared. He plays like this once in awhile--seemingly out of the play--you have to chalk it up to the reality is that he is a 19 year old kid who still needs a tremendous amount of strength and conditioning work. While he has an NBA frame--just think back to when you were 19 and compare it to 23. He's played very well--I'm sure they couldnt be more pleased--but last night was not a good night for him. I think I posted something previously that there was a good chance that Curry could get him in FT. That being said--there was a lot of things he usually does--that he didnt do. It's very hard and unfair to compare the two players right now.

that's gotta work both ways... if Bynum comes out & has a good game, you'd have seen all kinds of threads on this board saying how much better he is than Curry just like all those ridiculous Jackie Butler, etc. threads of a year ago.
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1/31/2007  6:07 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by BRIGGS:

Bynum looked like he was playing on ludes last night. He looked like he could care less--PJ left him in the 1st Q to pick up that 3rd foul likely on purpose. He did come out with a spark in the 2nd half and somehate disappeared. He plays like this once in awhile--seemingly out of the play--you have to chalk it up to the reality is that he is a 19 year old kid who still needs a tremendous amount of strength and conditioning work. While he has an NBA frame--just think back to when you were 19 and compare it to 23. He's played very well--I'm sure they couldnt be more pleased--but last night was not a good night for him. I think I posted something previously that there was a good chance that Curry could get him in FT. That being said--there was a lot of things he usually does--that he didnt do. It's very hard and unfair to compare the two players right now.

that's gotta work both ways... if Bynum comes out & has a good game, you'd have seen all kinds of threads on this board saying how much better he is than Curry just like all those ridiculous Jackie Butler, etc. threads of a year ago.

I was all prepared like news services having obits ready for people who aren't dead yet but could go at any minute.
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1/31/2007  7:12 PM
Posted by TheGame:

Last night:

Min FG 3p FT O TR A T STL B PF PT
Bynum, C 23 4-9 0-0 1-2 1 4 1 0 0 1 5 9
Curry, C 42 9-18 0-0 9-12 4 9 1 7 1 1 3 27


Curry pretty much dominated Bynum in every statistical category. In watching the game, it is clear Bynum has some offensive potential and will become a solid defensive player. However, he was no match for Curry's offensive game and could not stay out of foul trouble. It will be interesting to see how he does when Curry comes to his town.

Curry had a great offensive game, but had another lackluster defensive game. He made a few plays, but overall, he once again was late on defensive rotations, did not jump to contest all the shots he could have, and failed to go after several rebounds. I think I saw a post where someone stated that Curry is afraid to get fouls. I agree and think that he is too concerned about fouling out of games and plays tentatively on defense. I think he can play better defense. He is agile and has good arm length and can jump when he actually decides to, but he has to bring that focus and intensity. The coaching staff is really going to have to work with him over the next year to improve his defense.

Overall, I think it is too soon to tell whether Bynum will surpass Curry as a center. Bynum has the edge as a defensive player and is younger but Curry is vastly superior as an offensive threat. It really will come down to how much Curry improves as a defensive player compared to how much Bynum improves on offense. Bynum though is clearly a solid center prospect and will likely be L.A.'s center for the next 10 years.

[Edited by - TheGame on 01-31-2007 06:44 AM]

[Edited by - TheGame on 01-31-2007 06:47 AM]

I hate to say it, but Bynum is a kid right now. Curry is just now blooming six seasons later. In a few years, I'm afraid that Bynum is going to be using Curry as his rug. I'll still take Curry though.
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1/31/2007  7:33 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by BRIGGS:

Bynum looked like he was playing on ludes last night. He looked like he could care less--PJ left him in the 1st Q to pick up that 3rd foul likely on purpose. He did come out with a spark in the 2nd half and somehate disappeared. He plays like this once in awhile--seemingly out of the play--you have to chalk it up to the reality is that he is a 19 year old kid who still needs a tremendous amount of strength and conditioning work. While he has an NBA frame--just think back to when you were 19 and compare it to 23. He's played very well--I'm sure they couldnt be more pleased--but last night was not a good night for him. I think I posted something previously that there was a good chance that Curry could get him in FT. That being said--there was a lot of things he usually does--that he didnt do. It's very hard and unfair to compare the two players right now.

that's gotta work both ways... if Bynum comes out & has a good game, you'd have seen all kinds of threads on this board saying how much better he is than Curry just like all those ridiculous Jackie Butler, etc. threads of a year ago.

I was all prepared like news services having obits ready for people who aren't dead yet but could go at any minute.

I saved the text of my planned thread and several replies to potential responses in Microsoft Word. I had a few charts in Excel also. Now I don't know what to do with these documents!
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2/28/2007  10:43 PM
Another game no David Lee. Curry plays 46min and puts up his staus quo 7reb. But it's David Lee's fault as to why he doesn't get more rebounds.
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3/1/2007  9:29 AM
Posted by TrueBlue:

Another game no David Lee. Curry plays 46min and puts up his staus quo 7reb. But it's David Lee's fault as to why he doesn't get more rebounds.

True, didn't Curry grab 11 vs the Heat the other night going up against Shaq? how come i didn't hear you after that game? he had a bad game vs the Celtics... the energy wasn't there on either end, you could see it... i'm pretty sure not having Jamal in the game effected him the most... i would have hoped Isiah noticed this & put Cato in the game when they needed a defensive stop.
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3/1/2007  9:41 AM
Isiah ****ed up big time in the draft that year, Bynum, Granger, Greene were all right there i would have taken every single person over frye, who is soft and has limited ability.

Curry is not mentally strong and you could see he was clearly affected by not having his guy out there, which is scary because we have put the franchise in his hands again.

Would never do it over again, I think Foye or Roy to much to pair them with any of the three above plus our lottery selection. Judging by the way we played last night, its concievable that a bunch of teams will jump ahead of us.

Boston has a brighter future, and whoever places in the top two of the lottery this year if they are in the east they are instanly better than us, but we should extend isiah
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