Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by newyorknewyork:
Blue, I think that to. I think Francis was wanted for a couple of reasons by Brown. I think Brown wanted Marbury gone but already had conversations with Isiah about it. Isiah probably told Brown that Marbury is untradable because of his contract so it wasn't likly that it was going to happen. Francis value was at an all time low. So Brown was able to sell Thomas that if he traded for Francis that he could make Marbury & Francis a deadly combo(with that agreement that they will trade one of them, more than likley Francis with his value higher). Thomas probably only wanted to trade Penny's ending contract straight up for him. Orlando probably wanted Penny & a pick or Lee/Frye. Isiah didn't want to trade a draft pick, didn't want to trade Frye, Lee, or Nate. So Isiah settled on Ariza and Orlando agreed. Hopeing that Brown can build Francis value backup up and then trade Francis with higher value to another team for more than they gave up. I think that was the plan that Brown, Isiah, and Dolan all agreed upon. Brown then didn't play Francis enough which is probably the main cause of Dolan wanting to fire him.
Dolan came out and said that Brown begged for Francis. Brown even said something similar in the paper which Bonn use to bring up. So I don't believe it was all based on Isiah's plan to get KG though it was part of it after Brown sold him on making Marbury & Francis a deadly combo. I believe all 3 of them agreed on the situation above.
But that's long-term, "managerial" thinking. That's the approach you take if, A) you're gonna be around a while to benefit by it when the full plan comes to fruition, B) if you can't, or aren't allowed to, get the players you want now.
I believe that Francis was a fallback plan, or a fourth or fifth option for Brown, who would have preferred to get someone immediately more to his liking, rather than to use him as a possible future pawn.
I believe Brown wasn't allowed to get the guys he wanted because it would have entailed giving up someone that Isiah wasn't willing to give up.
I doubt that Brown wasn't allowed to get players he wanted. But it was proably very very hard because the only players that opposing team wanted was Frye, Lee, Nate, Ariza. You think teams were knocking down the door for Marbury, Crawford, Taylor, M.Rose, Jerome James. And if they were I doubt Isiah was turning those deals down unless it was for worse contracts. People were scared of Curry's heart risk as well so I doubt anyone would have given much for him at the time.
Isiah was not in position to get Brown his players when Brown was hired without giving up Frye, Lee, Nate, Ariza.
But other than Francis we don't know who else Brown wanted. Or what the opposing teams were willing to offer or wanted from us. For all we know there could have been 100 of deals talked about invloving Frye, Nate, Ariza, Lee which broke down.
And if Brown was able to turn Francis around Francis could have been traded in the summer or anytime this season. So its not really that long term.
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12/31/2006 5:30 PM
