he just needs to show he has a brain, he had so much open room to operate, everyone was nearly off the court all he needs to do is go with 7 seconds instead of five, accelerate pull back, re cross his man over and he is shooting a 15 footer going towards the basket.

Instead he waits takes too much time to move, gets trapped and then takes a 23 foot fadeaway, drives you nuts

Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

By the way Jcraw shot 9-23. Marbury shot 2-12. Seems to me the Jcraw bashing should not be first in line

Crawford's got the ability to be so much better than Marbury at this point if he wants to be. He's got better handling (especially with his left hand), he's a lot quicker, he's a lot younger, and he's a lot taller.


[Edited by - bonn1997 on 12-21-2006 2:49 PM]

Posted by Bippity10:

Crawford needs coaching. Not coddling and "play your game". He needs coaching.

Shhhh, you'll bring up memories of "the old man" from last year.

Crawford and Curry are in many ways whats wrong with todays players

6'11 strong, quick, athletic all world potential
-doesn't do anything if he is not getting his touches, doesn't work for garbage points, doesn't block shots, or show heart on a nightly basis....

If he dedicated himself in the offseason dropped 20 pounds and made an effort to box out and be active Curry averages 11rbs 3blks in his sleep, and score 6 more points a game due to his improved quickeness which is already good for a man of his size

6'5 long and lanky, great handle, good shooter when set, can get to the rim and make things happen not many player can
-doesn't defend on a consistent if ever basis, rushes his shot, shoots off balance, doesn't look for teammates as often as he should, one on one player, maybe the worst shot selection in the NBA

If he realized his potential, played within himself didn't settle for his normal shots, he would be getting 5 more free throws a game, his shooting percentage would be close to 45% his turnovers would be down, his assists and rebounds would be up and he would be mentioned as an elite guard.

If these two made these adjustments the knicks would have one of the brighter futures in the nba

Posted by MS:

Crawford and Curry are in many ways whats wrong with todays players

6'11 strong, quick, athletic all world potential
-doesn't do anything if he is not getting his touches, doesn't work for garbage points, doesn't block shots, or show heart on a nightly basis....

If he dedicated himself in the offseason dropped 20 pounds and made an effort to box out and be active Curry averages 11rbs 3blks in his sleep, and score 6 more points a game due to his improved quickeness which is already good for a man of his size

6'5 long and lanky, great handle, good shooter when set, can get to the rim and make things happen not many player can
-doesn't defend on a consistent if ever basis, rushes his shot, shoots off balance, doesn't look for teammates as often as he should, one on one player, maybe the worst shot selection in the NBA

If he realized his potential, played within himself didn't settle for his normal shots, he would be getting 5 more free throws a game, his shooting percentage would be close to 45% his turnovers would be down, his assists and rebounds would be up and he would be mentioned as an elite guard.

If these two made these adjustments the knicks would have one of the brighter futures in the nba

I agree and I think it comes from the coaching these guys receive at the high school level and don't receive when they spend no years or 1 year in college. They are the stars of their high school teams. They are so much better than everyone else that no matter what they do, whether it's good fundamentals or not, works. They can win a game by going one on one for 40 minutes. Their teammates are often so bad that they don't want to pass to them in crunch time. The coach never asks them to play D or pass to the open man. They just let them play "their games", because by allowing them to play "their games" wins. It also makes the know nothing coach a celebrity in his town. Trust me, I see this everyday.

Then these players go to the pros and pro coaches don't have enough practice time to teach these guys fundamentals. They were meant to learn this in 4 years of college. That's why 5, 6, 7, 10 years later guys have no idea how to win, play D or do anything besides using their athletic ability. It's no mystery to me.

[Edited by - bippity10 on 12-21-2006 3:29 PM]

I agree with that Crawford is better as the point as opposed to the shooter. That's why is fits in so well with the 2nd unit. Hopefully Q-Rich can come back soon and replace Crawford in the Starting line-up. But Crawford will always be on the floor in the 4th quarter.

Pg: Marbury, Crawford, Collins
Sg: Q-Rich, Nate
Sf: Jefferis, Balkman
Pf: Frye, Lee
C: Curry, (Frye), Cato

4th quarter line-up (depending on match-ups, subject to change)

Pg: Marbury
Sg: Crawford
Sf: Q-Rich
Pf: Jefferies/Lee
C: Curry/Frye

Jamal needs a brain surgeon...not a coach

come on MS... how about some props for the way Craw played last night? he was making some sweet dishes in the 1st half & took over the game when Marbury fouled out during crunchtime & made some HUGE shots to contribute to the W.

He's been this great once every four games for several years.

Posted by MS:

Crawford get his props for last night, which is why it is so frustrating to cheer for the guy, because if he had a brain and used his skills he would be an All-Star....

you see how easy he gets by people, and everyone always thinks he is putting up the shot, he made a couple of nice plays where he swung the ball inside for easy buckets instead of taking his usual brain dead shots. If he plays under control and doesn't act selfish with the ball and looks to get teammates invovled he is a winner.

But if he plays like Crawford he is of little use to the team. He literally can't be stopped when he gets on his rolls, but we shouldn't have to only see that player when he is hot, he needs to be aggressive, drive the ball and look to get everyone involved to reach his potential, hopefully he plays more games like last night, getting people invovled and then taking over

This same thing could be said about a lot of our guys, no?

Thats why its so frustrating, the bulls are the biggest culprits, Curry every now and again he misses in close when he is foul and grabs the ball and looks like he is going to knock the air out of it he is so mad, now if he could just take that anger and punish people coming into the paint, and grabbing rebounds, this team seriouly would be elite in the east