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Bonn1997
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7/5/2006  10:23 AM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by Bonn1997:

You're still wrong but I guess it clarified!

Again, you're arguing technicalities and abstractions. I'm arguing reality.

Again, you're wrong!
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7/5/2006  12:03 PM
ben makes them a title contender.

it was a cunning choice by Ben to open up to Chi and an ever bigger move by Bulls braintrust to get em.

as 4 lowpost scoring

Mikes in a contract year. he has skill just hasn't been able to keep his body in order. interesting to see how Ben influnces him.

Tyrus will also score on the next level
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7/5/2006  12:08 PM
disagree. they are will finally make it to the second round, but title contender they are not...they still need to sign teyshawn, sheed, billups and rip to be a title contender.

Think about it. DUH!
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7/5/2006  12:22 PM
>>gunsnewing - its so funny how next year we get Chicago pick which will be 20 something while Chicago gets our pick which could be lottery or close to it

That's why they play the games guns.

No one knows how the season will turn out.

Wouldn't it be a curious turn of events if the Bulls had injury problems (not that I wish that on anyone) and failed to make the playoffs?

The Knicks, after the press puches itself out over the soap opera of 06 - Isiah changes the atmosphere on the sideline and assistant coaches are allowed to actually SPEAK during games - while the players learn to enjoy playing basketball - discover that winning is fun.

Two years ago the Detroit Tigers were the worst team in baseball
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7/5/2006  12:40 PM
Posted by rvhoss:

disagree. they are will finally make it to the second round, but title contender they are not...they still need to sign teyshawn, sheed, billups and rip to be a title contender.

Think about it. DUH!

detroit? I thought Miami just won the title

read about it duh.

detroit will take a couple steps back next season for the ascension of Lebron's Cavs and Isiah's Bulls.
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7/5/2006  12:45 PM
Posted by misterearl:



The Knicks, after the press puches itself out over the soap opera of 06 - Isiah changes the atmosphere on the sideline and assistant coaches are allowed to actually SPEAK during games - while the players learn to enjoy playing basketball - discover that winning is fun.

Phil Ford and Hanners gave plenty of input during games. Aguirre and Glymph now get to sit bench for the man they really worked for so they can speak freely now to.

as 4 Isiah the Fat Lady has taken centa stage.



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7/5/2006  1:00 PM
I believe the topic was CONTENDER..unless you don't count the eastern conference finals as CONTENDING...if so, the knicks are in trouble because they have only contended two years since 1973...do you just look to see who posted or do you read teh posts...still waiting on the mck1 marbury bash thread number 1,234,325
Posted by McK1:
Posted by rvhoss:

disagree. they are will finally make it to the second round, but title contender they are not...they still need to sign teyshawn, sheed, billups and rip to be a title contender.

Think about it. DUH!

detroit? I thought Miami just won the title

read about it duh.

detroit will take a couple steps back next season for the ascension of Lebron's Cavs and Isiah's Bulls.

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7/5/2006  1:01 PM
just caught the Isiah's bulls line, funny and original...now we're talking...ut oh, fishy is posting, better cut down my responses before he brings up jerome james again.
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7/5/2006  1:04 PM
Posted by rvhoss:

I believe the topic was CONTENDER..unless you don't count the eastern conference finals as CONTENDING...if so, the knicks are in trouble because they have only contended two years since 1973...do you just look to see who posted or do you read teh posts...still waiting on the mck1 marbury bash thread number 1,234,325
Posted by McK1:
Posted by rvhoss:

disagree. they are will finally make it to the second round, but title contender they are not...they still need to sign teyshawn, sheed, billups and rip to be a title contender.

Think about it. DUH!

detroit? I thought Miami just won the title

read about it duh.

detroit will take a couple steps back next season for the ascension of Lebron's Cavs and Isiah's Bulls.


I'm saying Bulls-Suns Final...either way Isiah's getting a ring as an exec.
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7/5/2006  1:09 PM
rofl...stop jocking the suns btw. the bulls are still worst than detroit.

Do you live in chicago or something?

Don't make me break out nbalive and show you the detroit starting lineup of billups, rip, teyshawn, Sheed and INSERT NAME who all will be better than every bull but wallace and only because he's better than INSERT NAME.

Atleast INSERT NAME will be able to hit free throws in a big game.
but that's in the nazr thread...
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7/5/2006  2:05 PM
Ben Wallace talked with WDIV-TV Local 4 sports anchor Fred McLeod on Tuesday. Some excerpts from the former Piston:

"Everything happened so fast. You know, I think the Bulls are a great organization and a young and up-and-coming team. They made me an offer that I pretty much couldn't refuse."

"In order for me to leave Detroit it had to be under these circumstances. Anything else, you know, I wouldn't even consider. But I feel like it was an offer I couldn't refuse. Everybody in this league would like to have an opportunity to do something great and have an opportunity to be successful in this league financially. And I thought this was my opportunity to take care of not only my family, but my family's family."

"With me coming here, in the way they opened up and accepted me, it was a dream come true. It's tough to go into any situation feeling like you wasn't wanted, but coming here, I feel like the fans appreciated what I did and what I brought to the table. And they always inspired me to be a little bit better than the last year, and try to be a bit better the next year.

And you know, next year's going to be tough, especially having to come back here and play in front of these fans, it's just going to be tough."

"I hate to leave, but it's going to be a situation where I got an opportunity to go out and do something different. And for the most part (the Piston players) have been supportive, they've all given me great advice throughout this whole thing. Some guys you play with because they're your teammates, and some guys you play with long enough, you become friends and you build that bond. I definitely think I'm leaving some lifetime friends here."

"I didn't shed any tears, but it's tough. You work so hard all your life to feel like a part of something and I definitely thought that what we had here was something great, something special. And now to get up and leave, it's tough.

But I feel like I'm going to a great organization, a great city and I hope we become a team who comes out and plays hard every night, and if I thought it was anything less than that I'd still be in Detroit."

"I think biggest problem is I had some coaches who didn't feel like they had to coach me, that I would police myself, and do whatever it takes to get the job done. But sometimes you're out there and you need someone to push you to try to take it to the next level and not let you settle."

"I think Chauncey probably (politicked) the hardest (to keep me here). Me and Chauncey have been here for a minute, we had a brief stay in Orlando, and I think the level of respect we have for each other as players and as a person is great. He's just one of those guys that when I was having tough times here in Detroit, he'd always pick up the phone and call me and be like, 'I don't want nothing, I'm just calling to see what you're doing. Just making sure you got your head right and you're coming ready to play.' " He's always been one of those guys that you know everybody would love to have as a teammate."

"I was never insulted (at the Pistons' offer). I'm from a small town in Alabama, we only got one stop light, and when I left Alabama, I pretty much left with the clothes on my back and my pride and who I was. And to say that I was insulted by someone offering me $46 million, that would be crazy. I didn't feel insulted. But looking at the league and the market and what players are paid, I thought I could get more, I thought I deserved a little bit more, but I was never insulted by the offer. $46 million, I mean, at the end of the day who can say they had an opportunity to turn down $46 million."

"Every time I got an offer, me and my agent were talking and before we'd hang up I'd be like, 'Call Joe (Dumars), call the Pistons,' and see if they've got any flexibility or just see what's going on. Every time I got an offer, I definitely called Joe and talked to him and tried to see if they had any flexibility or see if they were willing to budge or move up a little bit. ... They held firm to their numbers."

"I think my relationship with Flip (Saunders) is pretty good. At times we bumped heads when we're out there on the floor, but that's a given. When you're out there trying to reach greatness, and try to do something special, you're going to have conflicts. I don't think there's anything wrong with conflicts. I think the way you sit down and get them resolved are the key. My relationship with Flip had nothing to do with my situation of me leaving, because since I've been here, every other year or every two years, we've been having different coaches, so how can I get along with five or six different coaches and not get along with Flip?"

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Interesting quotes.
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7/5/2006  5:27 PM
That's a great article. I didn't realize the money was that big a factor for Ben. I thought he simply wanted to help a young and rising team. That may have still been part of it, but he makes it sound like the extra money was a huge factor. I also can't believe the Pistons offered $46 mil but would not match the $60 mil offer. They will really regret that! They were willing to give Nazr $30 mil but weren't willing to give Ben $47 mil! That's just stupid. Ben's worth about 400 times what Nazr's worth.
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