Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by gunsnewing:

oh I agree thats why I listed miami, phoenix, detroit, dallas, spurs and the lakers because they rebuilt in only 1-2yrs and didn't list the Clippers and the Bulls who took years. there are many ways to build a good team but you need cap flexibility and picks to have a chance. Right now we have none

Guns. The difference between what your saying and what I'm saying is that your listing teams that are good and made the playoffs. I want teams that won championships. Again, the Spurs didn't rebuild. They lost their key player due to injury and were lucky enough it happened the same year a All-Time player was in the draft. Championships.

but what about Phoenix, denver, milwaukee. wouldn't you rather be in there situation then where we are now? or tear the team down, tank and land the next duncan, lebron, wade?

I don't know where the Knicks come into this... All I was asking was how many teams have rebuilt and won a championship in 5 years. It's a general question, has nothing to do with the Knicks.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 12-21-2005 11:59 PM]

but why would you care when its clear only the Spurs have? all the other teams are trying to get capspace and draft picks so they can catch the Spurs. we are going in the wrong direction

Posted by BRIGGS:

the knicks lost any chance at a championship for the next ten years when he decided the greg oden draft was worth a fart.

first bynum, now it is the oden fascination....LOL.. my lord...

nyk4ever,

When a team is "rebuilding" they are not doing so until they win the championship.

When you say "Dallas has been rebuilding forever" your standards are set pretty darn high. The Mavs have been a winning team for a few years now, and I would hardly consider them to be rebuilding. The same goes for Miami now, too.

Of course the goal of every team is to win the title, but how many teams have won the NBA Championship lately??

Spurs, Pistons, Lakers, Bulls, Rockets.

That's 5 teams since 1990, out of close to, or now up to, 30 teams. It's just not going to happen to every team, even good and very good ones.

If you think teams are "rebuilding" until the win the title, then everyone except the Spurs is "rebuilding." Or is there some kind of cut-off date for no-longer "rebuilding" after winning the title too?

I mean c'mon man...

Posted by fishmike:

Posted by rvhoss:

i take it back, if banning me prevents me from reading...maybe you can stop my posting or something...oh, wait, I'll stop myself.

Farewell fans. eff off isles!

so lets sum this guy up:
rv says Knicks will go to 2nd round and will compete
rv says Jerome James is a good trade because we needed a center and he's ok
rv says Knicks had the best draft ever

fish says team isnt that good
fish says JJ is horrible signing
fish says draft was good
isles says the same with some more color and love for Isiah

this makes fish a dick and Isles should be killed

Knicks go 6-whatever they are.

rv goes away. Thanks for your contributions.

classic... really classic


[Edited by - fishmike on 12-22-2005 07:19 AM]

it's like a holiday feel-good story

How about be just forget who predicted what and just move on?

I think its fare to say that NOBODY expeced us to be THIS BAD!

It is a horrible time to be a Knick fan in general right now, considering nowadays my freinds who don't even know bball are talkin smack about the Knicks cause they are such a joke, I say we stick to our miserable bortherhood LOL.

Ike missed all of camp and the first month of the season with a broken hand but he's played very well. I'm not sure what your point is. Bonnie... your the one around here with the desperate need to be right at all costs. Sometimes what you see really is what you get eh?

Posted by fishmike:

Ike missed all of camp and the first month of the season with a broken hand but he's played very well. I'm not sure what your point is. Bonnie... your the one around here with the desperate need to be right at all costs. Sometimes what you see really is what you get eh?

Nah, I've admitted to plenty of mistaken predictions. You're the one rubbing it in other's (here RV's) face every time he was wrong and you were right. Not sure why you're bringing up all the excuses for Ike. You really think he'd be outperforming Frye (rookie of the month, ROY candidate, etc.)? There's nothing wrong with admitting RV was right and you were wrong about the lottery pick just like you were right and RV and I were wrong about the MLE. (I'd rather be wrong about an MLE than a lottery pick decision, though)


[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 12-22-2005 11:19 AM]

If you weren't rubbing it in his face that his predictions were wrong and yours were right, what exactly were you doing with this?

so lets sum this guy up:
rv says Knicks will go to 2nd round and will compete
rv says Jerome James is a good trade because we needed a center and he's ok
rv says Knicks had the best draft ever
fish says team isnt that good
fish says JJ is horrible signing
fish says draft was good

What happened to happy fish?

I'm kinda with Fish on this one. I got a lot of heat as well for not being overly excited about this team. I don't think Fish is trying to attack RV. He's just trying to convince people like you, Isiah and Dolan that we are headed in the wrong direction

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 12-22-2005 1:05 PM]

Well you should be proud of yourself for checking back in. I spent the time helping my wife to complete a baby album for her parents, WITH THE TV OFF, and I didn't care. For the record I Tivo'd it and will watch the rest later today.