Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by SlimPack:

^ curry's calf injury is most likely (although not certainly) the result of him being out of shape. I really don't feel like looking up the medical explanation as to why a muscle when it hasnt been used very much and then is suddenly used alot gets strained, but it should be common knowledge that that happens. anyway curry better get in shape quick. already the eddy curry trade is looking like a bad one.



[Edited by - slimpack on 11-25-2005 1:36 PM]

It certainly could be that he's out of shape. I wasn't denying the possibility. I just don't make assumptions like Fish does. We don't truly know the cause of the injury. Weight is merely one plausible possibility.

LOL!!! Bonnie.. what are some other "plausible possibilities" Maybe he hurt it playing kickball! Or perhaps he fell in the shower. Maybe he was hit by a stray taser.

Maybe I should just make an excuse up for him... ok, try this. He wasnt medicially cleared to work out that calf until just before the season started... Give him a break! Oh wait... why do I feel like someone here already used that one.

Posted by SlimPack:

you know sometimes I really do think herb may have been the better choice for a coach. I know it sounds crazy but here me out. i remember herb telling ariza to shoot the ball more. but then larry came and criticezed him and to him to shoot it alot less(or something to that effect), now ariza only drives. this team is only successful when the rookies play, perhaps herb would have realized that and we'd have a better offense and less washed up vets getting minutes. but maybe thats just a knee jerk reaction.

[Edited by - slimpack on 11-25-2005 1:48 PM]

Posted by fishmike:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by SlimPack:

^ curry's calf injury is most likely (although not certainly) the result of him being out of shape. I really don't feel like looking up the medical explanation as to why a muscle when it hasnt been used very much and then is suddenly used alot gets strained, but it should be common knowledge that that happens. anyway curry better get in shape quick. already the eddy curry trade is looking like a bad one.



[Edited by - slimpack on 11-25-2005 1:36 PM]

It certainly could be that he's out of shape. I wasn't denying the possibility. I just don't make assumptions like Fish does. We don't truly know the cause of the injury. Weight is merely one plausible possibility.

LOL!!! Bonnie.. what are some other "plausible possibilities" Maybe he hurt it playing kickball! Or perhaps he fell in the shower. Maybe he was hit by a stray taser.

Maybe I should just make an excuse up for him... ok, try this. He wasnt medicially cleared to work out that calf until just before the season started... Give him a break! Oh wait... why do I feel like someone here already used that one.

LOL!!! Fishy...Other plausible possibilities? That the injury just happened due to an awkward landing or due to the calf being tweaked while running. I bet a doctor could come up with dozens of scenarios causing calf injuries that have nothing to do with weight. You can injure a calf without weight being an issue. (I thought you acknowledged this in one of your earlier replies; are you changing your mind again fickle fishy?)

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 11-25-2005 3:12 PM]

Posted by SlimPack:

well I never complained about trevor ariza's minutes, especially since back then I actually thought that tim thomas might realize his potential, but it was kinda strange that herb only played jackie once, but looking at him now he is really raw, but whatever forget what I said about herb. hopefully isiah can pull off a trade that gives us draft picks to make up for giving most of them away on the curry deal. I'd be more optimistic about this season if and when that happens.

Posted by nyk4ever:

I would still take Curry over Sweetney any day of the year. Sweetney was undersized Power Forward and the Knicks replaced him with a 6'11 starting Center for the next 10 years. I'll take that anyday over a undersized PF who struggles to keep his weight where its supposed to be for the next 10 years.

Posted by jaydh:

Posted by fishmike:

Jay.. do you really beleive that management isnt concerned about winning games? Seriously.. Dolan writes these checks out:
$8mm + for Curry
$10mm for Larry
$5mm for Jerome James
adding more future payroll in Rose/Mo T at the last deadline
adding more future payroll for Q/Nate

You going to tell me winning games, making the playoffs and selling tickets isnt a priority?

sure they want to win, but i think management also realizes that our players arent fully developed. our players have room for improvement and no i dont think management expected to be winning right away.

Posted by jaydh:

[quote]Posted by fishmike:

Jay.. do you really beleive that management isnt concerned about winning games? Seriously.. Dolan writes these checks out:
$8mm + for Curry
$10mm for Larry
$5mm for Jerome James
adding more future payroll in Rose/Mo T at the last deadline
adding more future payroll for Q/Nate

You going to tell me winning games, making the playoffs and selling tickets isnt a priority?

Posted by BRIGGS:

marbury still developing after 10 20-8 seasons? by the time hes done developing, he will have fcd up knees. Im more inclined to say Marbury is the absolute stud of the team, but he's not the right stud.

Posted by jaydh:

Posted by BRIGGS:

*our players are not fully developed*? which one's? Marbury Crawford?
Shaq,I mean Curry let me see Shaq at Curry's age was averaging more rebounds than Curry puts up in points--guys like shaq duncan hakeem ewing were already very good at curry's age. 5th year in the nba

Uh, lets see now, ariza, butler, curry, frye, lee, nate, and JC all have a ways to go before they can reach their full potential. i never said marbury wasnt fully developed, only that brown needed to teach him a few things. who cares what shaq did. there wont be another player like him for a long time.


[quote]Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by SlimPack:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Well said; I don't think anyone expected our young kids to turn the team around as much as a few posters here. Turning a losing team into a winning team takes a long time. When you're trying to do it with young talented kids with good upside, it takes even longer. If you're gonna cry over a 3-8 start, you'll never make it through the rebuilding process of any team.

thats a pretty good point, but it seems like alot of the time we lose becuase the brown played the veterans too much and the youth no enough, not becuase the youth isnt getting it done. the rookies are getting it done, but how are they supposed to win when the starting line up digs them into large holes that they then have to climb out of? I can wait through a rebuilding process but zeke doesn't seem to be rebuilding, not truely anyway.

[Edited by - slimpack on 11-25-2005 4:41 PM]