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bobs3304
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11/21/2005  7:59 PM
^ it's not about the cap really.

it's about the player's impact. every player has the potential to get injured. marbury does. duncan does (and don't we know it).

Are the risks worth the rewards?

How can you feasibly say no?
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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11/21/2005  7:59 PM
I am with djsunyc. Garnett is 29 and has bad knees apparently. Does this sound even slightly familiar to anyone? Frye is going to be a 20 point scorer in this league and is ALSO unselfish. Curry has superstar potential. Do we really want to give up all that for Garnett, who MAY be past his prime, and even if he isn't, what, 3, 4 years left, as opposed to maybe 10-12 from Frye and Curry? Sorry, I'm sticking with my young guns. They strike ne as pieces of a valueable core.
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11/21/2005  8:00 PM
This strikes me a lot like giving up all your youth (except your then 16 PPG guard--Wade) for Shaq. I know the analogy's not perfect. KG's not Shaq. But if you can get two dominant stars together for the next five years (Marbury and KG) and keep many of your young players (maybe Curry, Ariza, Craw, Q, and Lee), you have to do it.
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11/21/2005  8:02 PM
This shouldn't even be debated... Kevin Garnett vs Channing Frye

As good as Channing Frye has been thus far, we'd still be banking on his potential (Which at least until this point patterns a Rasheed Wallace type of player) And again thats, wishful thinking! We are talking about getting a bonafide SUPERSTAR player in Kevin Garnett. Arguably THE best big man, if not player in the league! Tim Duncan may be #1, then KG is #1a.. There is no disputing that. BEST ALL AROUND??? Maybe.. Lebron's emergence is causing a stir in this league but, KG has been doing this for years. He is a stat stuffer, and a game changer.. WE DON'T HAVE THAT CURRENTLY ON THIS ROSTER! If we can get one, this is a no brainer. I still think that this trade speculation is too good to be true, but if it were capable of happening its a must.. regardless of trading away our youth. Just keep (Curry, Crawford and Steph)
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11/21/2005  8:02 PM
I would deal any player for KG except Frye. How many 6'11 rookies come along that can score 20 in straight games OFF THE BENCH? It would be very hard to part with him now.

Get back to me in a few weeks on that.

The Deal as reported in the article is obviously a no brainer.
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11/21/2005  8:03 PM
Posted by bobs3304:

^ it's not about the cap really.

it's about the player's impact. every player has the potential to get injured. marbury does. duncan does (and don't we know it).

Are the risks worth the rewards?

How can you feasibly say no?


it's not as big a no-brainer as you make it out to be.
there are pros and cons for both arguments. we have something really developing here and making this type of move can yield some really good results but could also set us back another 5-8 years (despite some nice playoff runs the next 2-3 years).
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11/21/2005  8:05 PM
i guess what it really comes down to is how good isiah can build up the bench on this team. we can't just make the trade for KG and be like "ok, we're done now." we'd still have to continue making MANY moves to not leave the future barren - and that's tough to do when you have almost ZERO picks over the next 3-4 years. look at minny - they didn't have picks for 5 years and it KILLED that franchise. (how mchale didn't get fired over that one i'll never know)
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11/21/2005  8:05 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:

Curry has superstar potential. Do we really want to give up all that for Garnett, who MAY be past his prime, and even if he isn't, what, 3, 4 years left, as opposed to maybe 10-12 from Frye and Curry?


Curry's going nowhere, so that was a moot point.

And I'll take 4 years of KG than 10 years from Frye (even IF he turns into Rasheed Wallace, which is wishful thinking at best right now)

[Edited by - bobs3304 on 11-21-2005 8:06 PM]
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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11/21/2005  8:07 PM
I'd hate to give up BOTH Curry and Frye in a deal for Garnett. (I think Min would be reluctant to take on the $40 mil owed to Curry unless he plays great this year.) I'd start out with an offer of their pick of any (or all of) young players excluding Curry and Frye plus the 2 expiring contracts for KG and Wally.
If that doesn't work, I'd offer the 2 expiring contracts plus Frye and ZERO additional young players. That's the best offer they'll get from any team. No team will give them a very promising young player AND that much cap relief.
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11/21/2005  8:09 PM
^ Like you said, why would Zeke give up Curry, or Mchale/Taylor take on 40 Million when they're supposed to be cutting salary in a supposed KG deal???
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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11/21/2005  8:12 PM
KG may have only a 3-4 yr window.. but so does Marbury and Larry Brown for that matter.. so.. this the way to go, providing McHale is ready to deal w/ NY
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11/21/2005  8:12 PM
No way do you throw Frye into a salary dump deal for Garnett. And btw, I'd love to do business with anyone who thinks you should.
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11/21/2005  8:12 PM
and fishmike is right. We have very little picks the next couple of years, and if we do this trade, not only are we basically giving away everything, but we are also giving away everything that would land us these picks. Trading away everything for Garnett is NOT a no brainer. Lets do something instead. It's called building your own basketball team. That's what we're doing right now.
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11/21/2005  8:15 PM
That takes years. We don't have years. Marbury and LB have a 3-4 year window, as noted already.

And it's not like you're killing our youth movement by dealing for KG. If anything, when you bring aboard so many talented youngings, they become bargaining chips FOR a KG.

If we end up dealing Frye and Nate, we still have Lee and Ariza and Butler. So please, I beg to differ...
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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11/21/2005  8:16 PM
Wake me when it's done.
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11/21/2005  8:17 PM
Posted by JayNYC:

KG may have only a 3-4 yr window.. but so does Marbury and Larry Brown for that matter.. so.. this the way to go, providing McHale is ready to deal w/ NY


exactly!

I love Frye but Curry would actually be a better compliment to KG. Frye's strength is definitely scoring but he's not the player KG is. So what if KG is 30. He still has 10yrs left in him!

C-Curry
PF-KG
SF-Wally
SG-Q
PG-Marbury
6th Man-Crawford
Coach-Larry Brown!!!!!!

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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11/21/2005  8:18 PM
to think people thought I was on drugs when I was discussing the possibility of KG wanting out of Minnesota last year LOL
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11/21/2005  8:19 PM
If we had to give up Frye or Curry, who would it be ??? We can only keep one !!! Which one ???
Isiah Thomas will lead us back to the playoffs in 2006 !!!
bobs3304
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11/21/2005  8:23 PM
Posted by OngBok:

If we had to give up Frye or Curry, who would it be ??? We can only keep one !!! Which one ???

Ughh, that would be Frye.

Curry is a deal-breaker, in some ways for both teams...
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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11/21/2005  8:29 PM
I don't do the deal if Frye is included.
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