Posted by Killa4luv:
Posted by nyk4ever:
No one is ever the next great center in their first year of the league.
Actually there have been many next great centers their first year in the league. Here is a list of #1 picks who were centers and their rookie numbers:
ROOKIE NUMBERS:
Patrick Ewing 20 & 9
Hakeem Olajuwon 20 & 12
Tim Duncan 21 & 12
Ralph Sampson 21 & 11
David Robinson 24 & 12
Shaquille O'neal 23 & 14
Hell Alonzo Mourning was drafted #2 right after Shaq (what a draft) and put up 21 & 10 in his rookie season.
Even Brad Daugherty, who was also a #1 pick came in putting up 15 & 8 as a rookie before he got to 20 & 21 point seasons.
So don't gimme that bullshyt about he needs time. He's a #1 pick who guys are comparing to Timmy Duncan!!! That muthaphucka should be dominating the preseason and putting up AT LEAST Brad Daugherty numbers during the regular season!!!!
Where is BRIGGS on this? He said Frye should be putting up 14 & 8 as the #8 and many agreed. Where does that set the bar for Andrew Bogut, the #1 pick?!?!?!?!?
I will not tolerate any backsliding and easing up on Bogut who was hyped without end prior to the draft!! MAN UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! None of the next great centers needed to be eased into the game!!!!!!
Killa, the centers you listed are in the hall of fame are on their way there, there have been plenty of other centers picked 1st who didnt play well in their first year, someone like Michael Olawakandi whom the Clippers picked when they could have taken a chance on a player for the future like Vince Carter. In 1996 if the 76ers thought the same you do then they'd have Marcus Camby and not Allen Iverson becuase they want the big center who needs to perform this year, when infact Marcus Camby has never performed like a #2 pick. Too me that portion of your argument has no validity. Just because Bogut is a center and was picked first that doesn't mean that he has to play as well as those guys did, the logic there seems more then extremely off kilter, the Bucks would much rather Bogut learn the game and hone his skills then play a modest, the learning curve this way is quicker. I think you are also offbase with Tim Duncan comments, I said one day he will put up numbers like that becuase their games are so similar, because of the fundamentals both of them exute. Another thing, I don't recall this board being all over Bogut, in fact if I remember correctly there weren't many people on this board who even knew about him.
Another point, why is Briggs the authority on this manner? Just becuase he made a ridiculous request of Frye averaging 14 and 8 this year, which isn't to say that it isn't attainable, but HE'S A ROOKIE! The only thing he can do is do what the team asks of him. This NBA-Ready crap doesnt play in my book. If they were picking like that then the Cavs wouldn't have Lebron, they'd have Carmelo. The Magic wounldn't have Dwight Howard, they'd have Emeka Okafor. The Rockets wouldn't have Yao Ming, they'd have Jay Williams. The point of the draft is to pick the player that you feel has the best
FUTURE I don't know where your disdain for Bogut comes from, probably from never watching a college basketball that had him in it or else you'd see the same thing the Bucks saw in the draft.
