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Timeline of what the Bush Administration was doing while people were dying.
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tkf
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9/14/2005  6:50 PM
oh lord, how predictable, the old" i just let a friend, room mate, brother, or workmate read the thread and they said............."
That was lame.. please give up, this latest attempt is comedic at best....

Should I think that you would get a "friend" who would see it any other way... well let me try..

hmm..

I just let a friend read the thread and he said, why was i wasting my time with a anti bush extremest who chooses to divert and hide behind "lol" because he can't answer the issues at hand...

hmmm.. that wasn't hard at all...
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9/14/2005  7:38 PM
Tying this into basketball...:

Here is what Etan Thomas said in as reported by the Nation, a reputable news source.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20050926/zirin

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9/14/2005  8:33 PM
nagin is lucky katrina stalled and headed slightly east. all the reports i was hearing new orleans was suppose to take a direct hit which means 30k evacuation to the superdome = super coffin! looks like 30k + nagin gets a second chance. this has to be the worst evacuation ever in modern times.....blame bush for that
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tkf
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9/14/2005  10:22 PM
Oh Etan thomas. I never thought someone would eclipse kayne west irresponsibility and foolishness, but you finally did it..

Ok first of all I know the article is bull shyt when I saw this:
The willingness to take a stand comes as naturally to Thomas as his trademark jump hook.

hahaha, trademark jump hook? OK moving on..

definitely agree with Kanye West," he said. "Had this been a rich, lily-white suburban area that got hit, you think they would have had to wait five days to get food or water? When the hurricane hit in Florida, Bush made sure those people got help the next day

help the next day? Ok Etan and whoever supports these views take a look at this article: http://www.sptimes.com/2004/08/17/Weather/Unlike_Andrew__aid_s_.shtml

here is an excerpt...
In 1992, the anger in Miami could be seen in a spray-painted sign that greeted the president: "Help us President Bush. Want reelection? Send more help+

materials. We need them. Thank you!"
The president was not solely at fault for the post-Andrew difficulties. Then-Gov. Lawton Chiles shared some of the blame. The Democratic governor did not formally request federal assistance until three days after Andrew hit. He later said he incorrectly assumed that FEMA's response would be sufficient to trigger help from all federal agencies.

and...

T
he federal response to Andrew was poorly planned and chaotic. FEMA had spent years preparing for a Cold War nuclear apocalypse, but it seemed unprepared for Mother Nature.

"WE NEED HELP," a front-page Miami Herald headline screamed four days after Andrew hit.

The effort was tangled up in red tape. Some FEMA officials wanted to move truckloads of supplies to Florida ahead of time so it would be closer to victims. But FEMA's lawyers said the agency could not move supplies until after an official disaster declaration. Similar problems hobbled the federal removal of storm debris and delayed federal troops from being deployed to Dade County, snarling the ability of states to help each other.

When Andrew hit, there was no standardized way for states to share

again poor planning and failure at all levels were to blame here. What Hurricane was Etan talking about? he just states the hurricane in florida.. Ok I mean which one? florida is a known as a Hurricane state. I don't think he has a clue to be honest. it just sounds good and saucy to say, lends a touch credibility (so he thinks) to his misguided comments.. again which hurricane was it where they got help the next day? was he talking about the request for help or actual help being there? I have a idea, and again this is "SENSATIONALISM AT IT'S BEST".. good job Etan...

now he states this:
The rich are awarded all of the rights, privileges, respect, et cetera in this country, and the poor are pushed to the side. You see that with education, healthcare, court justice and every other aspect of society. If this had hit a higher economic area, Bush would have reacted much quicker and more effectively. It's a sad reminder of the reality that is our society."

again the areas of miami that were hit with Andrew were not all poor, yet we can see the ineffectiveness of gove help then. So what is it Etan? is it racial, economic or just plain inefficiency on all levels?

Let me guess, I bet he thinks it is racial, I mean he does go on to mention that... Oh boy these are the types of articles and responses that typifies the ignorance and irresponsibleness by celebrities... And it is often validated again by those who share in serving their own agendas...

Good going Etan.. I always though you were crazy, I was wrong, you are just foolish...

[Edited by - tkf on 09-14-2005 10:28 PM]
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9/14/2005  11:05 PM
again unreasonable, I never played both sides of the fence,

Oh, come on. Anyone reading this thread can see how much of an outright lie that is.

I just defended the side of reasonablenes,

In your opinion. Your self-righteousness is getting the best of you here.

you don't want people to judge you but here you go, labeling me as a bush supporter..

Nope! Your own words took take of that just fine.

But that is expected and typical..

Here's that good old circular pattern again. Run that ring by yourself, junior.

I don't care about bush policies,

You entire argument gets that point across loud and clear.

when in the heck did that ever become the topic of discussion here? Oh I know when.. it is when you went on diverting..

Again, nope! It started with the BEGINNING of this thread. Snap the hell out of it!!

The point here and still remains, the misleading, the personal agendas, and the lack of integrity..

If you were referring to Bush, I'd say that something worhtwhile is getting through to that head of yours...but... Oh well.

If you think that it is fair to write that bush was doing nothing while thousands died is fair then this is a lost argument.

If that is true and you are trying to contest it, then yes, the argument sure is lost.

Can you prove right now that Thousands died during those two days bush so called was doing nothing?

Semantics. I'll let you slip and fall on your own dribble, with what you say next.

No you can't and you know why? it is because it didn't happen, that type of jargon is printed to mislead, and to degrade.

OK, so since you think you're justified in saying that, why don't you tell us the total death toll now?

who's responsibility is it in a disaster to be the first to respone?

A hurricane of the magnitude of Katrina? The Federal Government, the one entity with power to mobilize to assist the citizenry without any permission or request, in any state in the Union.

isn't it the local govt and state govt? why not be true and mention that?

See above. I typed it again, so you can read it again.

I mean you are seeking the truth aren't you?

As well as trying to discuss it with others, but the need for broken record-like redundancy is tiring, to say the least.

That is the point of this argument, but you have forgotten becuase you were too busy entertaining yourself with "LOL"....

LMMFAO, that better? You're entertaining me, TK. That's why it's so funny. It's like the same conversation 3 times already...

I am done arguing these points with you... I have seen enough...

I was done after the second time around. The third go-round was spent reiterating the first and second round's points.

oh lord, how predictable, the old" i just let a friend, room mate, brother, or workmate read the thread and they said............."
That was lame.. please give up, this latest attempt is comedic at best....
Should I think that you would get a "friend" who would see it any other way... well let me try..

hmm..

I just let a friend read the thread and he said, why was i wasting my time with a anti bush extremest who chooses to divert and hide behind "lol" because he can't answer the issues at hand...

hmmm.. that wasn't hard at all...

I figured that simple story was within your cognitive ability to comprehend. Just as much as I knew you'd only mock it. Hilarious!

I'll conclude with a quote, and the banter can stop:

No argument necessary. I simply deconstructed your so-called argument that was already shot full of holes when you posted it.

Enough said.
Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
Timeline of what the Bush Administration was doing while people were dying.

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