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gunsnewing
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7/8/2005  12:23 AM
Posted by TheloniusMonk:
Posted by gunsnewing:
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and I will continue to feel that way until Frye proves me wrong. Til then I don't want to hear after single game for the next 3yrs "give Frye a chance" since we drafted him to win now over better players. One which Isiah tried so hard to trade up for in Green. People are still hoping Sweetney losses weight eventhough it is evident he is lazy and likes eating.

LOL that's cold. But what if Sweetney comes back in shape? What if?

Also, what if Frye puts up the same exact numbers Camby put up in his rookie year?

if he puts up 15 & 6 and 2blks(doubt it) and we WIN over 40games and make the playoffs then I will back him up but if I see what I saw today its going to be a long season if he's our best frontcourt player especially with that rebounding techique and lack of defensive presence in the post

Wait a minute, so he has to have Camby's numbers AND single handedly carry us to the playoffs this year or else he was a bad choice? Hmmmmm
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you're the one who said what if he puts up Camby numbers, correct? if he puts up 9 & 5, which he is on pace for when you consider he's putting up 14 & 6 against summer league competion and we win only 20-30games while players drafted aft6er him are in the mix for rookie of the year then I will be pretty disappointed

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7/8/2005  12:25 AM
Posted by TheloniusMonk:

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Why not just say "I agree with Bonn/Nolad....." and the go on to put your own name on your opinions and stop hiding behind what THEY say.
If you thought I was doing that you are seriously mistaken.
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7/8/2005  12:28 AM
No I brought up Camby's numbers. You said he'd have to acheive Camby's numbers AND we have to make the playoffs. This is a feat that LeBron hasn't even performed.....playoffs that is. We haven't made the playoffs in a few years and if we were to miss them again this year it was because of Frye? Nah, I doubt that.

But anyway, I believe that we WILL make the playoffs. That's my feeling.
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7/8/2005  12:34 AM
Posted by TheloniusMonk:

No I brought up Camby's numbers. You said he'd have to acheive Camby's numbers AND we have to make the playoffs. This is a feat that LeBron hasn't even performed.....playoffs that is. We haven't made the playoffs in a few years and if we were to miss them again this year it was because of Frye? Nah, I doubt that.

But anyway, I believe that we WILL make the playoffs. That's my feeling.

I didn't say he had to achieve Camby like rookie numbers. You're the one who said "what if Frye puts up the same exact numbers Camby put up in his rookie year?"

so my response was I would be more or less thrilled...thats all

personally I'm not going to give Frye too much time to develope because I don't see him developing into a top flight Center. He needs to have a solid career to justify the Knicks drafting him at 8 because he was the most nba ready bigman. I'm not going to keep telling myself, give him a chance every year but if he produces then I'll become a fan
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7/8/2005  12:42 AM
Posted by gunsnewing:
Posted by TheloniusMonk:

No I brought up Camby's numbers. You said he'd have to acheive Camby's numbers AND we have to make the playoffs. This is a feat that LeBron hasn't even performed.....playoffs that is. We haven't made the playoffs in a few years and if we were to miss them again this year it was because of Frye? Nah, I doubt that.

But anyway, I believe that we WILL make the playoffs. That's my feeling.

I didn't say he had to achieve Camby like rookie numbers. You're the one who said "what if Frye puts up the same exact numbers Camby put up in his rookie year?"

so my response was I would be more or less thrilled...thats all

personally I'm not going to give Frye too much time to develope because I don't see him developing into a top flight Center. He needs to have a solid career to justify the Knicks drafting him at 8 because he was the most nba ready bigman. I'm not going to keep telling myself, give him a chance every year but if he produces then I'll become a fan

Why say in your signature that it was a mistake but you are totally open to being a fan if he produces? Why not wait until the season and see what he does? If we did that for Ariza right now we'd say cut him. These past two games he's had bad games.

I don't think Frye will be a TOP FLIGHT CENTER. I don't even think Bogut will. But all i ask of Frye is to provide what WE need in order to help US win. I could care less how he compares to the rest of the rookies. Having TMac on your team doesn't mean you will win a ring. But obviously Big Ben is the RIGHT piece for the RIGHT team. That's all I ask of Frye. To be right for US.
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7/8/2005  12:45 AM
Posted by TheloniusMonk:
Posted by gunsnewing:
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No I brought up Camby's numbers. You said he'd have to acheive Camby's numbers AND we have to make the playoffs. This is a feat that LeBron hasn't even performed.....playoffs that is. We haven't made the playoffs in a few years and if we were to miss them again this year it was because of Frye? Nah, I doubt that.

But anyway, I believe that we WILL make the playoffs. That's my feeling.

I didn't say he had to achieve Camby like rookie numbers. You're the one who said "what if Frye puts up the same exact numbers Camby put up in his rookie year?"

so my response was I would be more or less thrilled...thats all

personally I'm not going to give Frye too much time to develope because I don't see him developing into a top flight Center. He needs to have a solid career to justify the Knicks drafting him at 8 because he was the most nba ready bigman. I'm not going to keep telling myself, give him a chance every year but if he produces then I'll become a fan

Why say in your signature that it was a mistake but you are totally open to being a fan if he produces? Why not wait until the season and see what he does? If we did that for Ariza right now we'd say cut him. These past two games he's had bad games.

I don't think Frye will be a TOP FLIGHT CENTER. I don't even think Bogut will. But all i ask of Frye is to provide what WE need in order to help US win. I could care less how he compares to the rest of the rookies. Having TMac on your team doesn't mean you will win a ring. But obviously Big Ben is the RIGHT piece for the RIGHT team. That's all I ask of Frye. To be right for US.

because my gut feeling says it was a mistake as I'm positive we'll look back on this draft class next year in shock that we drafted Frye over better players. just my gut feeling..don't take it personal. No big deal. Besides there's no positives to talk about other than Nate until the season starts
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7/8/2005  12:48 AM
Posted by gunsnewing:
Posted by TheloniusMonk:
Posted by gunsnewing:
Posted by TheloniusMonk:

No I brought up Camby's numbers. You said he'd have to acheive Camby's numbers AND we have to make the playoffs. This is a feat that LeBron hasn't even performed.....playoffs that is. We haven't made the playoffs in a few years and if we were to miss them again this year it was because of Frye? Nah, I doubt that.

But anyway, I believe that we WILL make the playoffs. That's my feeling.

I didn't say he had to achieve Camby like rookie numbers. You're the one who said "what if Frye puts up the same exact numbers Camby put up in his rookie year?"

so my response was I would be more or less thrilled...thats all

personally I'm not going to give Frye too much time to develope because I don't see him developing into a top flight Center. He needs to have a solid career to justify the Knicks drafting him at 8 because he was the most nba ready bigman. I'm not going to keep telling myself, give him a chance every year but if he produces then I'll become a fan

Why say in your signature that it was a mistake but you are totally open to being a fan if he produces? Why not wait until the season and see what he does? If we did that for Ariza right now we'd say cut him. These past two games he's had bad games.

I don't think Frye will be a TOP FLIGHT CENTER. I don't even think Bogut will. But all i ask of Frye is to provide what WE need in order to help US win. I could care less how he compares to the rest of the rookies. Having TMac on your team doesn't mean you will win a ring. But obviously Big Ben is the RIGHT piece for the RIGHT team. That's all I ask of Frye. To be right for US.

because my gut feeling says it was a mistake as I'm positive we'll look back on this draft class next year in shock that we drafted Frye over better players. just my gut feeling..don't take it personal. No big deal. Besides there's no positives to talk about other than Nate until the season starts

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7/8/2005  12:48 AM
Posted by TheloniusMonk:
Posted by gunsnewing:
Posted by TheloniusMonk:

No I brought up Camby's numbers. You said he'd have to acheive Camby's numbers AND we have to make the playoffs. This is a feat that LeBron hasn't even performed.....playoffs that is. We haven't made the playoffs in a few years and if we were to miss them again this year it was because of Frye? Nah, I doubt that.

But anyway, I believe that we WILL make the playoffs. That's my feeling.

I didn't say he had to achieve Camby like rookie numbers. You're the one who said "what if Frye puts up the same exact numbers Camby put up in his rookie year?"

so my response was I would be more or less thrilled...thats all

personally I'm not going to give Frye too much time to develope because I don't see him developing into a top flight Center. He needs to have a solid career to justify the Knicks drafting him at 8 because he was the most nba ready bigman. I'm not going to keep telling myself, give him a chance every year but if he produces then I'll become a fan

Why say in your signature that it was a mistake but you are totally open to being a fan if he produces? Why not wait until the season and see what he does? If we did that for Ariza right now we'd say cut him. These past two games he's had bad games.

I don't think Frye will be a TOP FLIGHT CENTER. I don't even think Bogut will. But all i ask of Frye is to provide what WE need in order to help US win. I could care less how he compares to the rest of the rookies. Having TMac on your team doesn't mean you will win a ring. But obviously Big Ben is the RIGHT piece for the RIGHT team. That's all I ask of Frye. To be right for US.

I hear you but Frye is not Big Ben. if you look through history you see that teams don't win with soft jumpshooting bigmen who don't rebound unless they have players like Jordan on the team
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7/8/2005  12:49 AM
Tim Duncan/Rasheed Wallace.
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7/8/2005  12:52 AM
Posted by PhilinLA:

Tim Duncan/Rasheed Wallace.

what about them. Both classify as dominant bigmen, especially Duncan who in his own class and my favorite current player the past 7yrs
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7/8/2005  12:54 AM
Sheed.

and that makes me giddy.
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7/8/2005  1:48 AM
Posted by gunsnewing:
Posted by PhilinLA:

Tim Duncan/Rasheed Wallace.

what about them. Both classify as dominant bigmen, especially Duncan who in his own class and my favorite current player the past 7yrs
Long, fundamentally sound, surprisingly tough, smart, can run, can shoot, can score from in close.
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7/8/2005  8:38 AM
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I questioned whether Bynum has more potential than Frye. I heard that he is interesting because he basically a big kid. I mean so was Yinka Dare, and Diop but no one wants to think of these guys when mentioning Bynum's potential. I must admit I like Green but you can't even count the guys with that "potential" have come and gone. From what is now coming out, he had trouble playing against stronger players. If he was a no brainer than he doesn't get past pick 5. The Raptors past on him twice, as well as the Bobcats. I find that more interesting than the Knicks passing on him.

That is a truly awesome point
But Bynum had a good SAT score!
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