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ESOMKnicks
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7/21/2022  11:43 AM
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With Allan Houston being my favorite Knick I thought I would drop this also.

Overall a disappointment for me. He had that last-second layup to oust Miami, a winning game 7 for a depleted team the season before, plus a couple of solid games against Jalen Rose of Indiana. But lacked the dominating killer streak one needs to carry a team to a championship.

We would have gotten a couple of chips for Patrick had we somehow cajoled Reggie Miller instead of Allan into joining us in the summer of 1996.

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7/21/2022  5:03 PM
ESOMKnicks wrote:
Clean wrote:
With Allan Houston being my favorite Knick I thought I would drop this also.

Overall a disappointment for me. He had that last-second layup to oust Miami, a winning game 7 for a depleted team the season before, plus a couple of solid games against Jalen Rose of Indiana. But lacked the dominating killer streak one needs to carry a team to a championship.

We would have gotten a couple of chips for Patrick had we somehow cajoled Reggie Miller instead of Allan into joining us in the summer of 1996.

The biggest disappointment about Houston is that he signed the big deal, had knee surgery, and never was the same again.

The second most disappointing thing was that he was a little less good at basketball compared to Ray Allen. Houston was an excellent player, but Allen did literally everything slightly better.

“That was two, two from the heart.” - John Starks
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7/21/2022  9:59 PM
Clean wrote:

With Allan Houston being my favorite Knick I thought I would drop this also.

The most overrated Knick of ALL TIME

Allan Houston = Duncan Robinson

yup..I said it

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7/22/2022  12:06 AM
Thought Houston was a solid Knick and gave us many memorable moments. Frustrating for him and the fans that he got hurt and couldn't return to form. Always preferred Spree back then as Spree played better defense and with more fire/intensity... but let's not forget that Houston had that buttery smooth jumper and he put up 53 vs the Lakers!
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7/23/2022  12:43 AM

Obi been in the lab.


These are just for fun.
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7/23/2022  5:05 AM

I don't see the Lakers doing 2 firsts to get out from Westbrook- I think one (2027) is fair (I don't see how Fournier is considered a bad contract, but Buddy Hield's seems to be toughed as being worth a 1st rounder!) for Miles Turner and Hield.

What would you rather do as the Lakers if the price was the same: Westbrook plus whatever picks for Kyrie and Harris (higher risk higher reward), or the Pacer deal of Miles Turner and Hield? (lower risk, but nice enough reward). I'd rather go for Kyrie if I were them, but the Pacers deal would be a pretty good plan B (but only for one 1st).

I don't see them going for Randle and Fournier/ Rose whatever, though I'd do it for one first rounder if we trade for D-Mitch.

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7/23/2022  9:31 AM
ESOMKnicks wrote:
Clean wrote:
With Allan Houston being my favorite Knick I thought I would drop this also.

Overall a disappointment for me. He had that last-second layup to oust Miami, a winning game 7 for a depleted team the season before, plus a couple of solid games against Jalen Rose of Indiana. But lacked the dominating killer streak one needs to carry a team to a championship.

We would have gotten a couple of chips for Patrick had we somehow cajoled Reggie Miller instead of Allan into joining us in the summer of 1996.

Miller was a pipe dream he was never coming here. He resigned with Indiana for a hometown discount

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7/23/2022  9:33 AM
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I don't see the Lakers doing 2 firsts to get out from Westbrook- I think one (2027) is fair (I don't see how Fournier is considered a bad contract, but Buddy Hield's seems to be toughed as being worth a 1st rounder!) for Miles Turner and Hield.

What would you rather do as the Lakers if the price was the same: Westbrook plus whatever picks for Kyrie and Harris (higher risk higher reward), or the Pacer deal of Miles Turner and Hield? (lower risk, but nice enough reward). I'd rather go for Kyrie if I were them, but the Pacers deal would be a pretty good plan B (but only for one 1st).

I don't see them going for Randle and Fournier/ Rose whatever, though I'd do it for one first rounder if we trade for D-Mitch.

We absolutely have already tried to get rid of Randle and/or Fournier via Westbrook’s expiring contract. It is not happening. The lakers know Randle too well and Fournier is Malik Monk with a bad contract

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7/23/2022  10:21 AM
Philc1 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:

I don't see the Lakers doing 2 firsts to get out from Westbrook- I think one (2027) is fair (I don't see how Fournier is considered a bad contract, but Buddy Hield's seems to be toughed as being worth a 1st rounder!) for Miles Turner and Hield.

What would you rather do as the Lakers if the price was the same: Westbrook plus whatever picks for Kyrie and Harris (higher risk higher reward), or the Pacer deal of Miles Turner and Hield? (lower risk, but nice enough reward). I'd rather go for Kyrie if I were them, but the Pacers deal would be a pretty good plan B (but only for one 1st).

I don't see them going for Randle and Fournier/ Rose whatever, though I'd do it for one first rounder if we trade for D-Mitch.

We absolutely have already tried to get rid of Randle and/or Fournier via Westbrook’s expiring contract. It is not happening. The lakers know Randle too well and Fournier is Malik Monk with a bad contract


And you know this how???? Absolutely my ass.

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7/23/2022  7:24 PM
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Obi been in the lab.


These are just for fun.

Obi is untouchable,our eventual and definitive successor to the placehold Randle. 2O% of the rebuild right there.

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7/24/2022  9:04 PM
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7/24/2022  9:46 PM
Philc1 wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
Clean wrote:
With Allan Houston being my favorite Knick I thought I would drop this also.

Overall a disappointment for me. He had that last-second layup to oust Miami, a winning game 7 for a depleted team the season before, plus a couple of solid games against Jalen Rose of Indiana. But lacked the dominating killer streak one needs to carry a team to a championship.

We would have gotten a couple of chips for Patrick had we somehow cajoled Reggie Miller instead of Allan into joining us in the summer of 1996.

Miller was a pipe dream he was never coming here. He resigned with Indiana for a hometown discount

Making **** up again and again. We did this before, you have no retention.
hhttp://ttps://www.complex.com/sports/2016/07/reggie-miller-knicks

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The Knicks finally signed Houston, while Miller was in Atlanta for the 1996 Olympics. The Indiana player got the news at the U.S. team's hotel, and went whining to U.S. teammate Grant Hill of the Pistons. "Your guy just ruined my plans," Miller told Hill. Nobody really knew what Miller's plans might have been, including Houston. "I didn't care," Houston said yesterday. "I did what was the best situation for me.”

Reggie likes to keep that wonderful thing going that he was always a pacer first. he should. But, there was a window.
I also recall reading that if H20 does not take our offer reggie was ready to.

Phil, Stop doing this. How can we take you serious. You dilute your cred when youu actually do say something worthy.

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7/25/2022  7:17 AM
Nalod wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
Clean wrote:
With Allan Houston being my favorite Knick I thought I would drop this also.

Overall a disappointment for me. He had that last-second layup to oust Miami, a winning game 7 for a depleted team the season before, plus a couple of solid games against Jalen Rose of Indiana. But lacked the dominating killer streak one needs to carry a team to a championship.

We would have gotten a couple of chips for Patrick had we somehow cajoled Reggie Miller instead of Allan into joining us in the summer of 1996.

Miller was a pipe dream he was never coming here. He resigned with Indiana for a hometown discount

Making **** up again and again. We did this before, you have no retention.
hhttp://ttps://www.complex.com/sports/2016/07/reggie-miller-knicks

F

The Knicks finally signed Houston, while Miller was in Atlanta for the 1996 Olympics. The Indiana player got the news at the U.S. team's hotel, and went whining to U.S. teammate Grant Hill of the Pistons. "Your guy just ruined my plans," Miller told Hill. Nobody really knew what Miller's plans might have been, including Houston. "I didn't care," Houston said yesterday. "I did what was the best situation for me.”

Reggie likes to keep that wonderful thing going that he was always a pacer first. he should. But, there was a window.
I also recall reading that if H20 does not take our offer reggie was ready to.

Phil, Stop doing this. How can we take you serious. You dilute your cred when youu actually do say something worthy.

Your article says “no one knew his plans”. Can you bother to read what you cut and paste?

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7/25/2022  7:30 AM
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7/25/2022  12:41 PM
Philc1 wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
Clean wrote:
With Allan Houston being my favorite Knick I thought I would drop this also.

Overall a disappointment for me. He had that last-second layup to oust Miami, a winning game 7 for a depleted team the season before, plus a couple of solid games against Jalen Rose of Indiana. But lacked the dominating killer streak one needs to carry a team to a championship.

We would have gotten a couple of chips for Patrick had we somehow cajoled Reggie Miller instead of Allan into joining us in the summer of 1996.

Miller was a pipe dream he was never coming here. He resigned with Indiana for a hometown discount

Making **** up again and again. We did this before, you have no retention.
hhttp://ttps://www.complex.com/sports/2016/07/reggie-miller-knicks

F

The Knicks finally signed Houston, while Miller was in Atlanta for the 1996 Olympics. The Indiana player got the news at the U.S. team's hotel, and went whining to U.S. teammate Grant Hill of the Pistons. "Your guy just ruined my plans," Miller told Hill. Nobody really knew what Miller's plans might have been, including Houston. "I didn't care," Houston said yesterday. "I did what was the best situation for me.”

Reggie likes to keep that wonderful thing going that he was always a pacer first. he should. But, there was a window.
I also recall reading that if H20 does not take our offer reggie was ready to.

Phil, Stop doing this. How can we take you serious. You dilute your cred when youu actually do say something worthy.

Your article says “no one knew his plans”. Can you bother to read what you cut and paste?

I vividly remember Reggie's televised statement at the time while he was holding out on the Pacers for more money. Something along the lines "I am the best, well okay, the second best shooting guard in the NBA and I should be paid accordingly." By October teams had made their FA signing decisions, so Reggie lost any negotiating leverage with the Pacers, except going on strike like he did. Some home town discount.

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7/25/2022  1:01 PM
Philc1 wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
Clean wrote:
With Allan Houston being my favorite Knick I thought I would drop this also.

Overall a disappointment for me. He had that last-second layup to oust Miami, a winning game 7 for a depleted team the season before, plus a couple of solid games against Jalen Rose of Indiana. But lacked the dominating killer streak one needs to carry a team to a championship.

We would have gotten a couple of chips for Patrick had we somehow cajoled Reggie Miller instead of Allan into joining us in the summer of 1996.

Miller was a pipe dream he was never coming here. He resigned with Indiana for a hometown discount

Making **** up again and again. We did this before, you have no retention.
hhttp://ttps://www.complex.com/sports/2016/07/reggie-miller-knicks

F

The Knicks finally signed Houston, while Miller was in Atlanta for the 1996 Olympics. The Indiana player got the news at the U.S. team's hotel, and went whining to U.S. teammate Grant Hill of the Pistons. "Your guy just ruined my plans," Miller told Hill. Nobody really knew what Miller's plans might have been, including Houston. "I didn't care," Houston said yesterday. "I did what was the best situation for me.”

Reggie likes to keep that wonderful thing going that he was always a pacer first. he should. But, there was a window.
I also recall reading that if H20 does not take our offer reggie was ready to.

Phil, Stop doing this. How can we take you serious. You dilute your cred when youu actually do say something worthy.

Your article says “no one knew his plans”. Can you bother to read what you cut and paste?

The insinuation is that nobody knew his plans at that time. LOL, really dude, read the article.

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7/25/2022  1:07 PM
ESOMKnicks wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:
Clean wrote:
With Allan Houston being my favorite Knick I thought I would drop this also.

Overall a disappointment for me. He had that last-second layup to oust Miami, a winning game 7 for a depleted team the season before, plus a couple of solid games against Jalen Rose of Indiana. But lacked the dominating killer streak one needs to carry a team to a championship.

We would have gotten a couple of chips for Patrick had we somehow cajoled Reggie Miller instead of Allan into joining us in the summer of 1996.

Miller was a pipe dream he was never coming here. He resigned with Indiana for a hometown discount

Making **** up again and again. We did this before, you have no retention.
hhttp://ttps://www.complex.com/sports/2016/07/reggie-miller-knicks

F

The Knicks finally signed Houston, while Miller was in Atlanta for the 1996 Olympics. The Indiana player got the news at the U.S. team's hotel, and went whining to U.S. teammate Grant Hill of the Pistons. "Your guy just ruined my plans," Miller told Hill. Nobody really knew what Miller's plans might have been, including Houston. "I didn't care," Houston said yesterday. "I did what was the best situation for me.”

Reggie likes to keep that wonderful thing going that he was always a pacer first. he should. But, there was a window.
I also recall reading that if H20 does not take our offer reggie was ready to.

Phil, Stop doing this. How can we take you serious. You dilute your cred when youu actually do say something worthy.

Your article says “no one knew his plans”. Can you bother to read what you cut and paste?

I vividly remember Reggie's televised statement at the time while he was holding out on the Pacers for more money. Something along the lines "I am the best, well okay, the second best shooting guard in the NBA and I should be paid accordingly." By October teams had made their FA signing decisions, so Reggie lost any negotiating leverage with the Pacers, except going on strike like he did. Some home town discount.

Also, and Its not covered in the article but from what I recall knicks flew out to see H20 and basically it was if he don’t sign it they going to see Reggie next and pay him. I don’t have that.
Reggie played his hand as he did.

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7/25/2022  4:00 PM
martin wrote:

Not sure this is a good idea for the Celtics, but now it’s been leaked it’s just p-ing off Jaylen Brown even more. Would probably be an okay return for the Nets though

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7/25/2022  5:13 PM
Jaylen been part of rumors before. Got two more years on his deal at 26 and 27mil. Just stay healthy and keep balling and it all will take care of itself either in Boston or Brooklyn. He might actually want this. Its a business.
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