holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Durant came up small? He helped the team win a playoff round in the west without Westbrook (or Harden) and put up better #s in terms of scoring, FG%, rebounding, assists, etc. than Melo's career averages (regular or post-season career averages). Are you saying Melo has come up small his entire career?

How did he do when it was only him????

Again, better than Melo has done all career

Melo been to the WCF as sole focus of his offense...

Sure, in his sixth season of being the sole focus (after five straight first round exits). Durant in his first month of being the sole focus came within 2 playoff wins of achieving what took Melo six years. Durant's better than Melo in every facet of the game. That doesn't mean Melo is a bad player. He's still a very good scorer. I'm amazed at how much difficulty you have admitting that Durant's much better than Melo though. Durant at his worst is still better than Melo's average production.

Durant didn't have to play teams of the ilk of the Lakers and Spurs when they were dominant either....And I have no problem admitting Durant is a better player at all...Because u decided to jump into a back and forth between myself and Nolad, you have no clue of what my point was and is now twisting it suit your narrative ...My original statement after Nolad said that Melo is no Superstar he is an all star...My retort was something along the line of would u say the say about Durant after coming up small in the playoffs...I compared both results and questioned whether u make such assessment on a playoff series, was the gist of my commentary...But u decide to chime in without knowing the background and run with it....

how about the years when carmelo lost to the clippers and Jazz? come on man...

Ur still pouting over Lin's departure trying to blame Melo...Sad...

LOL.. again, I aked about the clippers and jazz, what the hell does that have to do with LIN.. you see you can't make a point or answer the question, so you deflect... no wonder why you love carmelo...

AnubisADL wrote:If we had Chris Paul people would be complaining about him too.

If he disappeared, yeah, why not? If some fans simply live everything all the time, good for them. I think a realistic view is the way to go and for me what I saw this playoffs was the following:

A team with a very successful gameplan changed it unnecessarily and couldn't adjust properly to the opposition.

A team full of veterans saw most of them disappear when things mattered the most: Tyson, Kidd, Felton, Amar'e, J.R.

A veteran team showed lack of maturity, composure and discipline in the most crucial of times. They played defense with effort only whenever they wanted to, which seemed to be in the final minutes of the game. All the talk after games didn't help.

Again the maligned star Melo was left alone. The only silver linning here is the emergence of Shumpert.

We need a starting PG, a starting C, decide if we play Melo at PF again and depending on that, a starting PF or sF.

We went the veteran route and failed. I hope we inject more youth to this team.

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Durant came up small? He helped the team win a playoff round in the west without Westbrook (or Harden) and put up better #s in terms of scoring, FG%, rebounding, assists, etc. than Melo's career averages (regular or post-season career averages). Are you saying Melo has come up small his entire career?

How did he do when it was only him????

Again, better than Melo has done all career

Melo been to the WCF as sole focus of his offense...

Sure, in his sixth season of being the sole focus (after five straight first round exits). Durant in his first month of being the sole focus came within 2 playoff wins of achieving what took Melo six years. Durant's better than Melo in every facet of the game. That doesn't mean Melo is a bad player. He's still a very good scorer. I'm amazed at how much difficulty you have admitting that Durant's much better than Melo though. Durant at his worst is still better than Melo's average production.

Durant didn't have to play teams of the ilk of the Lakers and Spurs when they were dominant either....And I have no problem admitting Durant is a better player at all...Because u decided to jump into a back and forth between myself and Nolad, you have no clue of what my point was and is now twisting it suit your narrative ...My original statement after Nolad said that Melo is no Superstar he is an all star...My retort was something along the line of would u say the say about Durant after coming up small in the playoffs...I compared both results and questioned whether u make such assessment on a playoff series, was the gist of my commentary...But u decide to chime in without knowing the background and run with it....

how about the years when carmelo lost to the clippers and Jazz? come on man...

Ur still pouting over Lin's departure trying to blame Melo...Sad...

LOL.. again, I aked about the clippers and jazz, what the hell does that have to do with LIN.. you see you can't make a point or answer the question, so you deflect... no wonder why you love carmelo...

Melo made it to the WCF being the focus of the offense...Durant didn't...Against stiffer competition too...5-21 in a close out game is coming up small any way you slice it...Durant isn't facing the once dominant Lakers and Spurs...Houston might be looking to move Lin and that ridiculous contract...Denver might be a good place so u can concentrate your anti-Knick/ anti-Melo passion...

For all the hoopla around Denver all year, they were bumped in the first round...Losing road record should have forewarned you...But as they say, love is blind...

sidsanders wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Durant came up small? He helped the team win a playoff round in the west without Westbrook (or Harden) and put up better #s in terms of scoring, FG%, rebounding, assists, etc. than Melo's career averages (regular or post-season career averages). Are you saying Melo has come up small his entire career?

How did he do when it was only him????

Again, better than Melo has done all career

Melo been to the WCF as sole focus of his offense...

Sure, in his sixth season of being the sole focus (after five straight first round exits). Durant in his first month of being the sole focus came within 2 playoff wins of achieving what took Melo six years. Durant's better than Melo in every facet of the game. That doesn't mean Melo is a bad player. He's still a very good scorer. I'm amazed at how much difficulty you have admitting that Durant's much better than Melo though. Durant at his worst is still better than Melo's average production.

Durant didn't have to play teams of the ilk of the Lakers and Spurs when they were dominant either....And I have no problem admitting Durant is a better player at all...Because u decided to jump into a back and forth between myself and Nolad, you have no clue of what my point was and is now twisting it suit your narrative ...My original statement after Nolad said that Melo is no Superstar he is an all star...My retort was something along the line of would u say the say about Durant after coming up small in the playoffs...I compared both results and questioned whether u make such assessment on a playoff series, was the gist of my commentary...But u decide to chime in without knowing the background and run with it....

how about the years when carmelo lost to the clippers and Jazz? come on man...

Ur still pouting over Lin's departure trying to blame Melo...Sad...

LOL.. again, I aked about the clippers and jazz, what the hell does that have to do with LIN.. you see you can't make a point or answer the question, so you deflect... no wonder why you love carmelo...

Melo made it to the WCF being the focus of the offense...Durant didn't...Against stiffer competition too...5-21 in a close out game is coming up small any way you slice it...Durant isn't facing the once dominant Lakers and Spurs...Houston might be looking to move Lin and that ridiculous contract...Denver might be a good place so u can concentrate your anti-Knick/ anti-Melo passion...

For all the hoopla around Denver all year, they were bumped in the first round...Losing road record should have forewarned you...But as they say, love is blind...

billups chipped in 20+ a game in the playoff run to the wcf, reg season was at 18.7. is that not significant help?

Help yes but who was and has always been the focus?

sidsanders wrote:

holfresh wrote:

sidsanders wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Durant came up small? He helped the team win a playoff round in the west without Westbrook (or Harden) and put up better #s in terms of scoring, FG%, rebounding, assists, etc. than Melo's career averages (regular or post-season career averages). Are you saying Melo has come up small his entire career?

How did he do when it was only him????

Again, better than Melo has done all career

Melo been to the WCF as sole focus of his offense...

Sure, in his sixth season of being the sole focus (after five straight first round exits). Durant in his first month of being the sole focus came within 2 playoff wins of achieving what took Melo six years. Durant's better than Melo in every facet of the game. That doesn't mean Melo is a bad player. He's still a very good scorer. I'm amazed at how much difficulty you have admitting that Durant's much better than Melo though. Durant at his worst is still better than Melo's average production.

Durant didn't have to play teams of the ilk of the Lakers and Spurs when they were dominant either....And I have no problem admitting Durant is a better player at all...Because u decided to jump into a back and forth between myself and Nolad, you have no clue of what my point was and is now twisting it suit your narrative ...My original statement after Nolad said that Melo is no Superstar he is an all star...My retort was something along the line of would u say the say about Durant after coming up small in the playoffs...I compared both results and questioned whether u make such assessment on a playoff series, was the gist of my commentary...But u decide to chime in without knowing the background and run with it....

how about the years when carmelo lost to the clippers and Jazz? come on man...

Ur still pouting over Lin's departure trying to blame Melo...Sad...

LOL.. again, I aked about the clippers and jazz, what the hell does that have to do with LIN.. you see you can't make a point or answer the question, so you deflect... no wonder why you love carmelo...

Melo made it to the WCF being the focus of the offense...Durant didn't...Against stiffer competition too...5-21 in a close out game is coming up small any way you slice it...Durant isn't facing the once dominant Lakers and Spurs...Houston might be looking to move Lin and that ridiculous contract...Denver might be a good place so u can concentrate your anti-Knick/ anti-Melo passion...

For all the hoopla around Denver all year, they were bumped in the first round...Losing road record should have forewarned you...But as they say, love is blind...

billups chipped in 20+ a game in the playoff run to the wcf, reg season was at 18.7. is that not significant help?

Help yes but who was and has always been the focus?

westbrook for durant isnt in the same boat? durant had no westbrook in rd2. we can only speculate as to the results for anthony minus billups for that run.

in the end if all cant conclude these cats need help, then... not sure what to say. i realize those who dont like anthony may argue he should be the second fiddle etc... dont care really. they are in win now mode and are stuck due to cap issues. they might as well try and make it work as best as possible. whats the other realistic choices...

That's my original point..Sombers who praise Durant is taking the opportunity to take shots at Melo for losing in a game where he went for 39 pts 7 boards...Durant went 5-21 in a losing cause but that is excusable...Point is everyone needs help and can't do it alone or Bron would have stayed in Cleveland...

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:One thing tho..Have to say Melo has grown over the season...There were about 5 silly shots he took at the beginning of the season per game...Those went away but he was still forcing the issue in certain instances ...The last few games tho, I have to say he has let the game come to him...Maturity?...don't know...something to look forward to next season...

the regular season he shot a 56%TS compared to his career average of 54.5%TS. an improvement yes but far from elite, which begins at around 58%TS

the playoffs he shots an abysmal 49.7TS% which is below his lousy 51.3%TS for his playoff career.

2.53:1 is the ratio of his usage to the number of assists generated for teammates while he was on the floor. it's way too high when you consider he averaged 2.6 assists per game this season.

2.68:1 is the number he sunk to in the playoffs, with a pathetic 1.6 assists per game.

1) he needs to improve his scoring efficiency
2) he needs to improve at getting his teammates involved and engaged so they can be more dependable
3) he needs to improve his defense
4) he needs to improve his conditioning so he doesn't fade in the 4th quarters
5) he needs to incorporate more ball and head fakes to draw more fouls
6) he needs to improve his footwork by working with hakeem olajuwon or tim duncan or pau gasol

in sum he needs to learn how to play FOR others.

if he took his job more seriously he might eventually accomplish something of lasting value. and without improving in these areas he will never become a leader of any team he plays for.

if he had realized his limitations about himself instead of being a legend in his own mind the knicks would have a rosier future. as it is he is pretty much a fool's gold player who is being coached by a fool's gold coach who gets paid by a fool.

U have been so wrong all year with your player predictions and team predictions, Im just amazed there is not one ounce of shame as u continue to plow forward...

that's a pretty amazing accusation. in fact it's hilarious. you'll have to explain where i have been wrong.

Did u predict the Knicks would be 5th or sixth seed in the east???

you mean on paper before the season began??? sure i guess so.

you got anything else?

You said in the middle of the season that Felton was playing at his ceiling ...Seems like his best was left for the Boston series echoed by Doc Rivers...He was the MVP of that series???..Anything on that???

he excelled against a 7th seed team in the first round who was missing their best player, their starting point guard? okay great but you know my opinion about 7th and 8th seeds. moreover he has had to have a second point guard out there with him the entire season because he was incapable of orchestrating. this was my biggest complaint about felton from day 1. so what does woodson do? he puts kidd and prigioni out there. this allowed felton to be a scoring point guard or a tweener guard... so he has excelled at that.

but woodson, in making that adjustment, essentially "robbed peter to pay paul" because the backcourt proved both small and pretty porous. beware the tweener!

anything else?

I think that's crap too about needing a second PG...So what was you call on number of victories, please note that I can look it up...

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:One thing tho..Have to say Melo has grown over the season...There were about 5 silly shots he took at the beginning of the season per game...Those went away but he was still forcing the issue in certain instances ...The last few games tho, I have to say he has let the game come to him...Maturity?...don't know...something to look forward to next season...

the regular season he shot a 56%TS compared to his career average of 54.5%TS. an improvement yes but far from elite, which begins at around 58%TS

the playoffs he shots an abysmal 49.7TS% which is below his lousy 51.3%TS for his playoff career.

2.53:1 is the ratio of his usage to the number of assists generated for teammates while he was on the floor. it's way too high when you consider he averaged 2.6 assists per game this season.

2.68:1 is the number he sunk to in the playoffs, with a pathetic 1.6 assists per game.

1) he needs to improve his scoring efficiency
2) he needs to improve at getting his teammates involved and engaged so they can be more dependable
3) he needs to improve his defense
4) he needs to improve his conditioning so he doesn't fade in the 4th quarters
5) he needs to incorporate more ball and head fakes to draw more fouls
6) he needs to improve his footwork by working with hakeem olajuwon or tim duncan or pau gasol

in sum he needs to learn how to play FOR others.

if he took his job more seriously he might eventually accomplish something of lasting value. and without improving in these areas he will never become a leader of any team he plays for.

if he had realized his limitations about himself instead of being a legend in his own mind the knicks would have a rosier future. as it is he is pretty much a fool's gold player who is being coached by a fool's gold coach who gets paid by a fool.

U have been so wrong all year with your player predictions and team predictions, Im just amazed there is not one ounce of shame as u continue to plow forward...

that's a pretty amazing accusation. in fact it's hilarious. you'll have to explain where i have been wrong.

Did u predict the Knicks would be 5th or sixth seed in the east???

you mean on paper before the season began??? sure i guess so.

you got anything else?

You said in the middle of the season that Felton was playing at his ceiling ...Seems like his best was left for the Boston series echoed by Doc Rivers...He was the MVP of that series???..Anything on that???

he excelled against a 7th seed team in the first round who was missing their best player, their starting point guard? okay great but you know my opinion about 7th and 8th seeds. moreover he has had to have a second point guard out there with him the entire season because he was incapable of orchestrating. this was my biggest complaint about felton from day 1. so what does woodson do? he puts kidd and prigioni out there. this allowed felton to be a scoring point guard or a tweener guard... so he has excelled at that.

but woodson, in making that adjustment, essentially "robbed peter to pay paul" because the backcourt proved both small and pretty porous. beware the tweener!

anything else?

I think that's crap too about needing a second PG...So what was you call on number of victories, please note that I can look it up...

i predicted that if they did not play defense they would still win 48 games and if they did play defense they would win 55 games and likely reach the ECF. they won 54 games and failed to reach the ECF.

please do go on.

Nice spread you have working..So you predicted the Knicks would win 55 games and be the 7th seed???...And you are lying about the ECF....You predicted first round exit...you actually changed your tune during the course of the season after you saw the Knicks winning to say if they don't reach the ECFnit was a disappointment ....I don't see how some one who calls or a team to be the 7th seed should think that same team could reach the ECF...

Knicksfan wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Woodson dealing with alot of personalities.

His worst mistake was changjnf his coaching for the playoffs when he could've won more with his previous gameplan. That and sticking with the inconsistent players just because they are the veterans and looking lost in the "play big vs. play small" issue did him in.

Considering his track record in Atlanta and his love for iso and lack of adjustments, I vote he should go.

Since it probably won't happen, I pray for CP3.

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:One thing tho..Have to say Melo has grown over the season...There were about 5 silly shots he took at the beginning of the season per game...Those went away but he was still forcing the issue in certain instances ...The last few games tho, I have to say he has let the game come to him...Maturity?...don't know...something to look forward to next season...

the regular season he shot a 56%TS compared to his career average of 54.5%TS. an improvement yes but far from elite, which begins at around 58%TS

the playoffs he shots an abysmal 49.7TS% which is below his lousy 51.3%TS for his playoff career.

2.53:1 is the ratio of his usage to the number of assists generated for teammates while he was on the floor. it's way too high when you consider he averaged 2.6 assists per game this season.

2.68:1 is the number he sunk to in the playoffs, with a pathetic 1.6 assists per game.

1) he needs to improve his scoring efficiency
2) he needs to improve at getting his teammates involved and engaged so they can be more dependable
3) he needs to improve his defense
4) he needs to improve his conditioning so he doesn't fade in the 4th quarters
5) he needs to incorporate more ball and head fakes to draw more fouls
6) he needs to improve his footwork by working with hakeem olajuwon or tim duncan or pau gasol

in sum he needs to learn how to play FOR others.

if he took his job more seriously he might eventually accomplish something of lasting value. and without improving in these areas he will never become a leader of any team he plays for.

if he had realized his limitations about himself instead of being a legend in his own mind the knicks would have a rosier future. as it is he is pretty much a fool's gold player who is being coached by a fool's gold coach who gets paid by a fool.

U have been so wrong all year with your player predictions and team predictions, Im just amazed there is not one ounce of shame as u continue to plow forward...

that's a pretty amazing accusation. in fact it's hilarious. you'll have to explain where i have been wrong.

Did u predict the Knicks would be 5th or sixth seed in the east???

you mean on paper before the season began??? sure i guess so.

you got anything else?

You said in the middle of the season that Felton was playing at his ceiling ...Seems like his best was left for the Boston series echoed by Doc Rivers...He was the MVP of that series???..Anything on that???

he excelled against a 7th seed team in the first round who was missing their best player, their starting point guard? okay great but you know my opinion about 7th and 8th seeds. moreover he has had to have a second point guard out there with him the entire season because he was incapable of orchestrating. this was my biggest complaint about felton from day 1. so what does woodson do? he puts kidd and prigioni out there. this allowed felton to be a scoring point guard or a tweener guard... so he has excelled at that.

but woodson, in making that adjustment, essentially "robbed peter to pay paul" because the backcourt proved both small and pretty porous. beware the tweener!

anything else?

I think that's crap too about needing a second PG...So what was you call on number of victories, please note that I can look it up...

i predicted that if they did not play defense they would still win 48 games and if they did play defense they would win 55 games and likely reach the ECF. they won 54 games and failed to reach the ECF.

please do go on.

Nice spread you have working..So you predicted the Knicks would win 55 games and be the 7th seed???...And you are lying about the ECF....You predicted first round exit...you actually changed your tune during the course of the season after you saw the Knicks winning to say if they don't reach the ECFnit was a disappointment ....I don't see how some one who calls or a team to be the 7th seed should think that same team could reach the ECF...

okay now you are being even more ridiculous than usual. when did i say they were going to be a 7th seed? 48 games doesn't get merely the 7th seed as it is. let me help you out here: context.

i may have said at one point that if they were not careful they coud slip all the way to 7th seed. again: context.

i don't understand this game of "gotcha" you have going on here. i am not going to hide from anything i have said but try to be accurate if you are going to try and make me look foolish. so far it's not working. you and several others here and on realgm may have to face facts that melo is just not the type of player who can lead a team to the promised land, even though you seem to be sharing his mindspace.

once an underachiever....

Showing you where your calls have been wrong in 4 instances is a little more than "gotcha"..

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:One thing tho..Have to say Melo has grown over the season...There were about 5 silly shots he took at the beginning of the season per game...Those went away but he was still forcing the issue in certain instances ...The last few games tho, I have to say he has let the game come to him...Maturity?...don't know...something to look forward to next season...

the regular season he shot a 56%TS compared to his career average of 54.5%TS. an improvement yes but far from elite, which begins at around 58%TS

the playoffs he shots an abysmal 49.7TS% which is below his lousy 51.3%TS for his playoff career.

2.53:1 is the ratio of his usage to the number of assists generated for teammates while he was on the floor. it's way too high when you consider he averaged 2.6 assists per game this season.

2.68:1 is the number he sunk to in the playoffs, with a pathetic 1.6 assists per game.

1) he needs to improve his scoring efficiency
2) he needs to improve at getting his teammates involved and engaged so they can be more dependable
3) he needs to improve his defense
4) he needs to improve his conditioning so he doesn't fade in the 4th quarters
5) he needs to incorporate more ball and head fakes to draw more fouls
6) he needs to improve his footwork by working with hakeem olajuwon or tim duncan or pau gasol

in sum he needs to learn how to play FOR others.

if he took his job more seriously he might eventually accomplish something of lasting value. and without improving in these areas he will never become a leader of any team he plays for.

if he had realized his limitations about himself instead of being a legend in his own mind the knicks would have a rosier future. as it is he is pretty much a fool's gold player who is being coached by a fool's gold coach who gets paid by a fool.

U have been so wrong all year with your player predictions and team predictions, Im just amazed there is not one ounce of shame as u continue to plow forward...

that's a pretty amazing accusation. in fact it's hilarious. you'll have to explain where i have been wrong.

Did u predict the Knicks would be 5th or sixth seed in the east???

you mean on paper before the season began??? sure i guess so.

you got anything else?

You said in the middle of the season that Felton was playing at his ceiling ...Seems like his best was left for the Boston series echoed by Doc Rivers...He was the MVP of that series???..Anything on that???

he excelled against a 7th seed team in the first round who was missing their best player, their starting point guard? okay great but you know my opinion about 7th and 8th seeds. moreover he has had to have a second point guard out there with him the entire season because he was incapable of orchestrating. this was my biggest complaint about felton from day 1. so what does woodson do? he puts kidd and prigioni out there. this allowed felton to be a scoring point guard or a tweener guard... so he has excelled at that.

but woodson, in making that adjustment, essentially "robbed peter to pay paul" because the backcourt proved both small and pretty porous. beware the tweener!

anything else?

I think that's crap too about needing a second PG...So what was you call on number of victories, please note that I can look it up...

i predicted that if they did not play defense they would still win 48 games and if they did play defense they would win 55 games and likely reach the ECF. they won 54 games and failed to reach the ECF.

please do go on.

Nice spread you have working..So you predicted the Knicks would win 55 games and be the 7th seed???...And you are lying about the ECF....You predicted first round exit...you actually changed your tune during the course of the season after you saw the Knicks winning to say if they don't reach the ECFnit was a disappointment ....I don't see how some one who calls or a team to be the 7th seed should think that same team could reach the ECF...

okay now you are being even more ridiculous than usual. when did i say they were going to be a 7th seed? 48 games doesn't get merely the 7th seed as it is. let me help you out here: context.

i may have said at one point that if they were not careful they coud slip all the way to 7th seed. again: context.

i don't understand this game of "gotcha" you have going on here. i am not going to hide from anything i have said but try to be accurate if you are going to try and make me look foolish. so far it's not working. you and several others here and on realgm may have to face facts that melo is just not the type of player who can lead a team to the promised land, even though you seem to be sharing his mindspace.

once an underachiever....

Showing you where your calls have been wrong in 4 instances is a little more than "gotcha"..

The only thing that seems wrong is your recollection of what he's said. Can you post some quotes where he was clearly wrong?

Sure I can...But if u want to see them you can do the leg work...Is he refuting what Im saying???

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:One thing tho..Have to say Melo has grown over the season...There were about 5 silly shots he took at the beginning of the season per game...Those went away but he was still forcing the issue in certain instances ...The last few games tho, I have to say he has let the game come to him...Maturity?...don't know...something to look forward to next season...

the regular season he shot a 56%TS compared to his career average of 54.5%TS. an improvement yes but far from elite, which begins at around 58%TS

the playoffs he shots an abysmal 49.7TS% which is below his lousy 51.3%TS for his playoff career.

2.53:1 is the ratio of his usage to the number of assists generated for teammates while he was on the floor. it's way too high when you consider he averaged 2.6 assists per game this season.

2.68:1 is the number he sunk to in the playoffs, with a pathetic 1.6 assists per game.

1) he needs to improve his scoring efficiency
2) he needs to improve at getting his teammates involved and engaged so they can be more dependable
3) he needs to improve his defense
4) he needs to improve his conditioning so he doesn't fade in the 4th quarters
5) he needs to incorporate more ball and head fakes to draw more fouls
6) he needs to improve his footwork by working with hakeem olajuwon or tim duncan or pau gasol

in sum he needs to learn how to play FOR others.

if he took his job more seriously he might eventually accomplish something of lasting value. and without improving in these areas he will never become a leader of any team he plays for.

if he had realized his limitations about himself instead of being a legend in his own mind the knicks would have a rosier future. as it is he is pretty much a fool's gold player who is being coached by a fool's gold coach who gets paid by a fool.

U have been so wrong all year with your player predictions and team predictions, Im just amazed there is not one ounce of shame as u continue to plow forward...

that's a pretty amazing accusation. in fact it's hilarious. you'll have to explain where i have been wrong.

Did u predict the Knicks would be 5th or sixth seed in the east???

you mean on paper before the season began??? sure i guess so.

you got anything else?

You said in the middle of the season that Felton was playing at his ceiling ...Seems like his best was left for the Boston series echoed by Doc Rivers...He was the MVP of that series???..Anything on that???

he excelled against a 7th seed team in the first round who was missing their best player, their starting point guard? okay great but you know my opinion about 7th and 8th seeds. moreover he has had to have a second point guard out there with him the entire season because he was incapable of orchestrating. this was my biggest complaint about felton from day 1. so what does woodson do? he puts kidd and prigioni out there. this allowed felton to be a scoring point guard or a tweener guard... so he has excelled at that.

but woodson, in making that adjustment, essentially "robbed peter to pay paul" because the backcourt proved both small and pretty porous. beware the tweener!

anything else?

I think that's crap too about needing a second PG...So what was you call on number of victories, please note that I can look it up...

i predicted that if they did not play defense they would still win 48 games and if they did play defense they would win 55 games and likely reach the ECF. they won 54 games and failed to reach the ECF.

please do go on.

Nice spread you have working..So you predicted the Knicks would win 55 games and be the 7th seed???...And you are lying about the ECF....You predicted first round exit...you actually changed your tune during the course of the season after you saw the Knicks winning to say if they don't reach the ECFnit was a disappointment ....I don't see how some one who calls or a team to be the 7th seed should think that same team could reach the ECF...

okay now you are being even more ridiculous than usual. when did i say they were going to be a 7th seed? 48 games doesn't get merely the 7th seed as it is. let me help you out here: context.

i may have said at one point that if they were not careful they coud slip all the way to 7th seed. again: context.

i don't understand this game of "gotcha" you have going on here. i am not going to hide from anything i have said but try to be accurate if you are going to try and make me look foolish. so far it's not working. you and several others here and on realgm may have to face facts that melo is just not the type of player who can lead a team to the promised land, even though you seem to be sharing his mindspace.

once an underachiever....

Showing you where your calls have been wrong in 4 instances is a little more than "gotcha"..

The only thing that seems wrong is your recollection of what he's said. Can you post some quotes where he was clearly wrong?

Sure I can...But if u want to see them you can do the leg work...Is he refuting what Im saying???

Innocent until proven guilty. If your charge is that he's been inaccurate, do your homework first. Then I'll evaluate his response.

My home work is done already...I have challenged him on a another occasion about his predictions but he didn't bite...U really think Ill ask questions I don't have the answers to??..Come on Bonn. How long have we been at this???