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GustavBahler
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4/28/2025  6:03 PM
I get the feeling that Deuce wont be brought back next season. Kolek might be an offseason away from being the backup PG. I dont see Cam,Shamet, or Precious brought back either.

In spite of his recent struggles, Deuce has shown enough in the last couple of seasons to be included in a big offseason trade. I have no idea what the deal will be, but a big trade is coming IMO. No way the FO stands pat.

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gradyandrew
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4/28/2025  10:55 PM
Kind of surprised that Deuce played more minutes this season than Las season. I felt like Thibs had used him less. Deuce hasn't been a factor this series, but he's in 10 of the 11 top lineups for the Knicks during the regular season. I don't think he's going anywhere.
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4/29/2025  11:52 AM
gradyandrew wrote:Kind of surprised that Deuce played more minutes this season than Las season. I felt like Thibs had used him less. Deuce hasn't been a factor this series, but he's in 10 of the 11 top lineups for the Knicks during the regular season. I don't think he's going anywhere.
he's too cheap to go anywhere. His $4mm salary is less then what lottery picks are paid. He's here for next year and the year after. He would have to be included in a deal that REALLY helped us.

That being said he's been just bad these playoffs. He's on a short leash cause that's what happens when you are a bench guy shooting 26% from the field in these playoffs

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4/29/2025  12:08 PM
I know Gustav has "Feelings" about Kolek and I don't know about that but Payne is the 2nd string PG and he can do it again for another year. Deuce is a 2 for now. With his long wingspan its how he gets his shot off and effective guarding bigger guys.

If Kolek is able to move up the rotation its because he outplayed Payne at some point or his game surges in the off-season but he will still have to prove himself. Not in summer league, but in camp next season.

Paired with Mitch we might be able to get a nice asset because his contract is a great bargain. But we also need that!
As for both, we got one more game to close this out then the real litmus test comes vs. Boston. We need them both to play up and make an impact. Same for any knick that enters the game!!!!

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4/29/2025  5:14 PM
Nalod wrote:I know Gustav has "Feelings" about Kolek and I don't know about that but Payne is the 2nd string PG and he can do it again for another year. Deuce is a 2 for now. With his long wingspan its how he gets his shot off and effective guarding bigger guys.

If Kolek is able to move up the rotation its because he outplayed Payne at some point or his game surges in the off-season but he will still have to prove himself. Not in summer league, but in camp next season.

Paired with Mitch we might be able to get a nice asset because his contract is a great bargain. But we also need that!
As for both, we got one more game to close this out then the real litmus test comes vs. Boston. We need them both to play up and make an impact. Same for any knick that enters the game!!!!

Kolek is going to Utah for draft comp... he's not coming back. He's McBride's age.
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blkexec
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4/29/2025  5:59 PM
Chandler wrote:back to the original topic. Deuce has had a tough year and right now has been mostly a dud

he seems more interested in making sure his headband and hairdo are jus so (and they do look good). BUT he's half the player of last year and needs to get it going

I think people got deuce all confused on how he impacts this team. He’s one of the top PG defenders in the league period. His jumper is icing on his defensive cake, which comes extremely cheap compared to others in his class. He’s not going anywhere unless he demands a trade.

He’s also a combo guard vs kolek is a pure PG. Deuce will be fine as Thibs utility knife. Hes tied to Thibs hip like a cheap yet reliable belt.

I’m not worried about his offense. I only worry if his defense falls off which it hasn’t. He’s a hard worker and I trust he will fix whatever is needed to be fixed.

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4/29/2025  6:11 PM
blkexec wrote:
Chandler wrote:back to the original topic. Deuce has had a tough year and right now has been mostly a dud

he seems more interested in making sure his headband and hairdo are jus so (and they do look good). BUT he's half the player of last year and needs to get it going

I think people got deuce all confused on how he impacts this team. He’s one of the top PG defenders in the league period. His jumper is icing on his defensive cake, which comes extremely cheap compared to others in his class. He’s not going anywhere unless he demands a trade.

He’s also a combo guard vs kolek is a pure PG. Deuce will be fine as Thibs utility knife. Hes tied to Thibs hip like a cheap yet reliable belt.

I’m not worried about his offense. I only worry if his defense falls off which it hasn’t. He’s a hard worker and I trust he will fix whatever is needed to be fixed.

he's not playable in the postseason at his current 26% shooting. That will get you 14 minutes. A 7 minute breather for Josh or Mikal and youre out. If he's hitting shots he's getting 25-30 minutes a night for this team.
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