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gunsnewing
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9/19/2016  11:35 PM
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gunsnewing wrote:This radical administration and their most stonch supportors like to accuse of fear mongering and say things like more Americans were killed by sharks this year than domestic terrorism.

However I am glad to to see Hillary starting to choose her words more wisely when it comes to things like a better getting system so we know who we are allowing in.

Shows me she has some common sense unlike Obama who regurgitates the same nonsense aced each incident leaving me to question his true beliefs and who's side he's actually on.

Just realized something that I was going back and forth on with Dr. Alphaeus and another poster in regards to the Trump birther thing. I was under the impression that it had to do with questioning Obamas religious and ideological beliefs. It didn't make sense to me that anyone would want a President removed because of the color of his skin in 2016. That's why I said I thought Trump didn't really believe what he was saying but was making the point that President Obama protects everyone but his own American people.

Maybe I am wrong about what exactly Trumps motives were at the time. I don't know you tell me. Those guys took it as me supporting Trumps racism towards a black President when that was the furthest thing from my mind and I would like to think Trumps as well. This is why I didn't understand what Doc was asking me. Now I got it.

There is no religious test for office, first off.

Obama got in trouble for his fiery Christian pastor. Then people are obsessed with his Arabic middle name and living abroad, he's a crypto-Muslim. He's a half black guy with a Muslim name born in the one US state that has never had a white majority — Hawai'i — and lived in a majority Islamic state Indonesia.

Obama is the "Other"... "Not Us". Race, religion, non-mainland, and people are freaking out. To me, he's pretty centrist, and techno-corporate.

Many people perceive he is not American enough. Are you one? Because he read a book by Alinsky? What time is your book burning party?

I don't use "racist" because I know that just ends the conversation. But ask yourself why someone would actually think he's on the side of Islamic terrorists instead of his own people? It's an outrageous accusation. Defend it.

Just a gut feeling I have.
Everyone is free to disagree.

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9/19/2016  11:39 PM
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Smoking Gun?https://m.reddit.com/r/HillaryForPrison/comments/53gac1/citizen_journalist_sleuthed_up_key_bleachbit/?utm_source=mweb_redirect&compact=true


Not too smart if the IT guy. I wonder how they get out of this one.

Wow! Security fail for real... he ain't making the 2600 Hacker Hall of Fame now!

I feel for the poor dude. "When you get stuck, Read-Search-Ask" ... but maybe in a private IRC channel and not reddit brah!

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9/19/2016  11:45 PM    LAST EDITED: 9/20/2016  12:01 AM
Trump is on video supporting the troop withdrawal from Iraq in 2007..He says there is a civil war over there that we can't do anything about..Its a CNN video..Will post later..What a joke..
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9/19/2016  11:56 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
DrAlphaeus wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:This radical administration and their most stonch supportors like to accuse of fear mongering and say things like more Americans were killed by sharks this year than domestic terrorism.

However I am glad to to see Hillary starting to choose her words more wisely when it comes to things like a better getting system so we know who we are allowing in.

Shows me she has some common sense unlike Obama who regurgitates the same nonsense aced each incident leaving me to question his true beliefs and who's side he's actually on.

Just realized something that I was going back and forth on with Dr. Alphaeus and another poster in regards to the Trump birther thing. I was under the impression that it had to do with questioning Obamas religious and ideological beliefs. It didn't make sense to me that anyone would want a President removed because of the color of his skin in 2016. That's why I said I thought Trump didn't really believe what he was saying but was making the point that President Obama protects everyone but his own American people.

Maybe I am wrong about what exactly Trumps motives were at the time. I don't know you tell me. Those guys took it as me supporting Trumps racism towards a black President when that was the furthest thing from my mind and I would like to think Trumps as well. This is why I didn't understand what Doc was asking me. Now I got it.

There is no religious test for office, first off.

Obama got in trouble for his fiery Christian pastor. Then people are obsessed with his Arabic middle name and living abroad, he's a crypto-Muslim. He's a half black guy with a Muslim name born in the one US state that has never had a white majority — Hawai'i — and lived in a majority Islamic state Indonesia.

Obama is the "Other"... "Not Us". Race, religion, non-mainland, and people are freaking out. To me, he's pretty centrist, and techno-corporate.

Many people perceive he is not American enough. Are you one? Because he read a book by Alinsky? What time is your book burning party?

I don't use "racist" because I know that just ends the conversation. But ask yourself why someone would actually think he's on the side of Islamic terrorists instead of his own people? It's an outrageous accusation. Defend it.

Just a gut feeling I have.
Everyone is free to disagree.

So your gut says that Obama is on the side of the terrorists and an enemy of the American people?

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9/20/2016  12:06 AM
gunsnewing wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:I don't know maybe it's just me who has a problem with the ideology of Death to America and the same tired unspiring resolutions or lack there of from liberals and some democrats.

You know what though. There is more to America than a few radically democratic cities. I've spoken to people who travel across the country. Trump has a ton of fed up Americans on his side. A few of the bigger cities are still up for grabs. Florida being one.

Also? Hillary is counting on the women vote but I'm pretty sure those mothers will want their children to be safe. When they do things like run in local marathons at 9:30am in their quite little beach towns.


No, it's just not you unfortunately, there are others out there worried about "Death to America" chants...I'll leave you with this stat though, more people die from furniture than terrorism in America...But go ahead a spend another trillion dollars and create more terrorist...

Exactly my point.

No one cares until it's them or their loved ones

It's always easy when some else's kid is fighting a senseless war...

Depends what the motives are. Bush had no business bombing Iraq wasting lives and resources for oil if it was for his own personal gain.

If it's to defund radical Islam then I can see it until someone comes up with a better plan. Our government helping fund them isn't the answer.

Immigration is where things get complicated-- Temporary ban on immigrants from that part of he world until radicalism is under control? An extreme prolonged methodical vetting system? Or it is just wrong and unamerican to single out one group of people so temporary ban all immigration until a proper getting system is in place for immigrants who want to be here. And are pledge their allegiance to the United States of America?

U think Trump will send his kids to war against ISIS??..The answer is NO...

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9/20/2016  12:18 AM
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9/20/2016  1:07 AM
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wow that was refreshing!

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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9/20/2016  6:36 AM    LAST EDITED: 9/20/2016  6:45 AM
gunsnewing wrote:I don't know maybe it's just me who has a problem with the ideology of Death to America and the same tired unspiring resolutions or lack there of from liberals and some democrats.

You know what though. There is more to America than a few radically democratic cities. I've spoken to people who travel across the country. Trump has a ton of fed up Americans on his side. A few of the bigger cities are still up for grabs. Florida being one.

Also? Hillary is counting on the women vote but I'm pretty sure those mothers will want their children to be safe. When they do things like run in local marathons at 9:30am in their quite little beach towns.

It's definitely not just you. But you are a classic example of why Trump is popular. People who think Florida is a city, and the election is between the Demise of America at the hand of terrorists and restoring it to its old Glory. This the same tired horse**** being spewed by republicans for the last 20 years in one variation or another. You are the culmination of the perfect citizen for the GOOP.
You have been bought up on a healthy dose of fear and resentment and over time your attitude towards foreigners has been perfected by right wing propaganda and misinformation. You truly are perfect. Don't lose hope, there's plenty of you. I am seeing more and more of you every day. Keep up the good fight! You will save America from your imaginary threats yet.

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9/20/2016  8:12 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/david-clarke-jail-death-terrill-thomas_us_57e03580e4b04a1497b5f12e

An Inmate Died Of Thirst In A Jail Run By A Loudly Pro-Trump Sheriff



WASHINGTON ― Authorities have ruled the death of an inmate at a jail run by a top law enforcement supporter of GOP nominee Donald Trump a homicide caused by “profound dehydration.”

Terrill Thomas, 38, was found dead in a Milwaukee County Jail cell on April 24, nine days after being arrested in connection with a shooting. Other inmates heard Thomas beg for water in the days before he died, the Journal Sentinel reported in July.

The Huffington Post has been tracking jail deaths ― more than 800 ― in the year since Sandra Bland died in a Texas jail on July 13, 2015.

Last week the Milwaukee County medical examiner announced that Thomas’ death was due to profound dehydration, according to the Journal Sentinel. By labeling the death a homicide, the medical examiner indicated that it was caused by the actions of another person, although that judgment does not necessarily mean that anyone will be criminally prosecuted in the case.

The Milwaukee County Jail is run by Sheriff David A. Clarke Jr., an outspoken Trump supporter and critic of the Black Lives Matter movement. Clarke, who is technically a Democrat, has become popular in conservative circles in recent years for his specific criticism of President Barack Obama and more general critiques of liberalism. A recent disclosure form revealed that Clarke took in more than $150,000 in speaking fees, travel reimbursements and gifts in 2015.

Inmates told the Journal Sentinel that the water in Thomas’ cell had been shut off for six days, and one inmate allegedly said to a guard, “If something happens to that man, it’s your fault.”

“No one should ever die of dehydration. It just should never happen,” Erik J. Heipt, a lawyer for the Thomas family, told The Huffington Post.

Heipt, who has represented the families of a number of individuals who lost their lives in jail, said dehydration deaths were relatively rare. He pointed to a lawsuit involving a 25-year-old man who died of dehydration and malnutrition in a Island County Jail in Washington state, which was settled for $4 million last year.

“They may well have had reason to turn off the water. There absolutely could be reasons why you’d want to turn off someone’s water in their cell. But to then not give them drinking water? That’s crazy,” Heipt said. “To make a human being die of thirst, where they have no ability to get their own water for survival, that’s pretty inhumane. It doesn’t get much worse than that.”

Heipt said he has received calls from other former inmates of the Milwaukee County Jail who said the water to their cells had been cut off, too. In fact, another inmate, Antonio Cowser, died in 2011 after water to his cell was turned off.

“They could have gave him some water,” Thomas’ mother Celia told the Journal Sentinel.

Clarke’s office issued a press release stating that it will not be commenting on the death until all investigations, as well as any civil lawsuits, have ended.

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9/20/2016  9:25 AM    LAST EDITED: 9/20/2016  9:33 AM
holfresh wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/david-clarke-jail-death-terrill-thomas_us_57e03580e4b04a1497b5f12e

An Inmate Died Of Thirst In A Jail Run By A Loudly Pro-Trump Sheriff



WASHINGTON ― Authorities have ruled the death of an inmate at a jail run by a top law enforcement supporter of GOP nominee Donald Trump a homicide caused by “profound dehydration.”

Terrill Thomas, 38, was found dead in a Milwaukee County Jail cell on April 24, nine days after being arrested in connection with a shooting. Other inmates heard Thomas beg for water in the days before he died, the Journal Sentinel reported in July.

The Huffington Post has been tracking jail deaths ― more than 800 ― in the year since Sandra Bland died in a Texas jail on July 13, 2015.

Last week the Milwaukee County medical examiner announced that Thomas’ death was due to profound dehydration, according to the Journal Sentinel. By labeling the death a homicide, the medical examiner indicated that it was caused by the actions of another person, although that judgment does not necessarily mean that anyone will be criminally prosecuted in the case.

The Milwaukee County Jail is run by Sheriff David A. Clarke Jr., an outspoken Trump supporter and critic of the Black Lives Matter movement. Clarke, who is technically a Democrat, has become popular in conservative circles in recent years for his specific criticism of President Barack Obama and more general critiques of liberalism. A recent disclosure form revealed that Clarke took in more than $150,000 in speaking fees, travel reimbursements and gifts in 2015.

Inmates told the Journal Sentinel that the water in Thomas’ cell had been shut off for six days, and one inmate allegedly said to a guard, “If something happens to that man, it’s your fault.”

“No one should ever die of dehydration. It just should never happen,” Erik J. Heipt, a lawyer for the Thomas family, told The Huffington Post.

Heipt, who has represented the families of a number of individuals who lost their lives in jail, said dehydration deaths were relatively rare. He pointed to a lawsuit involving a 25-year-old man who died of dehydration and malnutrition in a Island County Jail in Washington state, which was settled for $4 million last year.

“They may well have had reason to turn off the water. There absolutely could be reasons why you’d want to turn off someone’s water in their cell. But to then not give them drinking water? That’s crazy,” Heipt said. “To make a human being die of thirst, where they have no ability to get their own water for survival, that’s pretty inhumane. It doesn’t get much worse than that.”

Heipt said he has received calls from other former inmates of the Milwaukee County Jail who said the water to their cells had been cut off, too. In fact, another inmate, Antonio Cowser, died in 2011 after water to his cell was turned off.

“They could have gave him some water,” Thomas’ mother Celia told the Journal Sentinel.

Clarke’s office issued a press release stating that it will not be commenting on the death until all investigations, as well as any civil lawsuits, have ended.

This is the type of thing that will make America great again.

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9/20/2016  9:38 AM
Wow, there are reports now that George H W Bush is supporting Hillary!
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9/20/2016  9:59 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:Wow, there are reports now that George H W Bush is supporting Hillary!

She is more conservative than he is.

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9/20/2016  10:07 AM
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Trump is a great Monday morning quarterback. You know what else is interesting? In this video he is praising Bush Sr. for doing what he did in Iraq and getting out. However, in the Stern video (you know, the one where he says he agrees with invading Iraq) he said he wished Bush Sr. and stayed and finished the job. Trump is never wrong because he's on record as being on both sides of every issue.
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9/20/2016  10:10 AM
gunsnewing wrote:
DrAlphaeus wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:This radical administration and their most stonch supportors like to accuse of fear mongering and say things like more Americans were killed by sharks this year than domestic terrorism.

However I am glad to to see Hillary starting to choose her words more wisely when it comes to things like a better getting system so we know who we are allowing in.

Shows me she has some common sense unlike Obama who regurgitates the same nonsense aced each incident leaving me to question his true beliefs and who's side he's actually on.

Just realized something that I was going back and forth on with Dr. Alphaeus and another poster in regards to the Trump birther thing. I was under the impression that it had to do with questioning Obamas religious and ideological beliefs. It didn't make sense to me that anyone would want a President removed because of the color of his skin in 2016. That's why I said I thought Trump didn't really believe what he was saying but was making the point that President Obama protects everyone but his own American people.

Maybe I am wrong about what exactly Trumps motives were at the time. I don't know you tell me. Those guys took it as me supporting Trumps racism towards a black President when that was the furthest thing from my mind and I would like to think Trumps as well. This is why I didn't understand what Doc was asking me. Now I got it.

There is no religious test for office, first off.

Obama got in trouble for his fiery Christian pastor. Then people are obsessed with his Arabic middle name and living abroad, he's a crypto-Muslim. He's a half black guy with a Muslim name born in the one US state that has never had a white majority — Hawai'i — and lived in a majority Islamic state Indonesia.

Obama is the "Other"... "Not Us". Race, religion, non-mainland, and people are freaking out. To me, he's pretty centrist, and techno-corporate.

Many people perceive he is not American enough. Are you one? Because he read a book by Alinsky? What time is your book burning party?

I don't use "racist" because I know that just ends the conversation. But ask yourself why someone would actually think he's on the side of Islamic terrorists instead of his own people? It's an outrageous accusation. Defend it.

Just a gut feeling I have.
Everyone is free to disagree.

May want to consider taking some Pepto for that feeling in your gut because it's ridiculous.
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9/20/2016  10:10 AM
DrAlphaeus wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
DrAlphaeus wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:This radical administration and their most stonch supportors like to accuse of fear mongering and say things like more Americans were killed by sharks this year than domestic terrorism.

However I am glad to to see Hillary starting to choose her words more wisely when it comes to things like a better getting system so we know who we are allowing in.

Shows me she has some common sense unlike Obama who regurgitates the same nonsense aced each incident leaving me to question his true beliefs and who's side he's actually on.

Just realized something that I was going back and forth on with Dr. Alphaeus and another poster in regards to the Trump birther thing. I was under the impression that it had to do with questioning Obamas religious and ideological beliefs. It didn't make sense to me that anyone would want a President removed because of the color of his skin in 2016. That's why I said I thought Trump didn't really believe what he was saying but was making the point that President Obama protects everyone but his own American people.

Maybe I am wrong about what exactly Trumps motives were at the time. I don't know you tell me. Those guys took it as me supporting Trumps racism towards a black President when that was the furthest thing from my mind and I would like to think Trumps as well. This is why I didn't understand what Doc was asking me. Now I got it.

There is no religious test for office, first off.

Obama got in trouble for his fiery Christian pastor. Then people are obsessed with his Arabic middle name and living abroad, he's a crypto-Muslim. He's a half black guy with a Muslim name born in the one US state that has never had a white majority — Hawai'i — and lived in a majority Islamic state Indonesia.

Obama is the "Other"... "Not Us". Race, religion, non-mainland, and people are freaking out. To me, he's pretty centrist, and techno-corporate.

Many people perceive he is not American enough. Are you one? Because he read a book by Alinsky? What time is your book burning party?

I don't use "racist" because I know that just ends the conversation. But ask yourself why someone would actually think he's on the side of Islamic terrorists instead of his own people? It's an outrageous accusation. Defend it.

Just a gut feeling I have.
Everyone is free to disagree.

So your gut says that Obama is on the side of the terrorists and an enemy of the American people?

Whats Obama's middle name? I mean if the shoe fits... Do folks really need more evidence? Sheesh!
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9/20/2016  10:13 AM
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Bonn1997 wrote:Wow, there are reports now that George H W Bush is supporting Hillary!

She is more conservative than he is.

Bush's really have never shown to be "conservative", they tow the party line.
George H. and even W. really never shown a core conservative line.

Im thinking for him to endorse Hilary is really calling out Trump the piece of shyt he is.
Don't forget, George H. and Bill Clinton relationship is very tight for many years. I thought for years George handed him the election and basically got to hand pick his successor.
Did Al Gore when W. was anointed a planned event? Did Gore not go along with the script?
Who knows, but George and Bill are as thick as thieves so its no surprise she gets a Bush endorsement. W. has a book about his paintings coming out. He is a far simple man.

Bill will a hand in a Hilary presidency. Is that a good thing? Maybe if the Republicans didn't have a clown running there would be a viable choice. I'll take "BillAry" over Donald and Melania.
Where is Melania? OUt campaigning? Or locked up as not to further embarrass her self?

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9/20/2016  10:14 AM
fishmike wrote:
DrAlphaeus wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
DrAlphaeus wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:This radical administration and their most stonch supportors like to accuse of fear mongering and say things like more Americans were killed by sharks this year than domestic terrorism.

However I am glad to to see Hillary starting to choose her words more wisely when it comes to things like a better getting system so we know who we are allowing in.

Shows me she has some common sense unlike Obama who regurgitates the same nonsense aced each incident leaving me to question his true beliefs and who's side he's actually on.

Just realized something that I was going back and forth on with Dr. Alphaeus and another poster in regards to the Trump birther thing. I was under the impression that it had to do with questioning Obamas religious and ideological beliefs. It didn't make sense to me that anyone would want a President removed because of the color of his skin in 2016. That's why I said I thought Trump didn't really believe what he was saying but was making the point that President Obama protects everyone but his own American people.

Maybe I am wrong about what exactly Trumps motives were at the time. I don't know you tell me. Those guys took it as me supporting Trumps racism towards a black President when that was the furthest thing from my mind and I would like to think Trumps as well. This is why I didn't understand what Doc was asking me. Now I got it.

There is no religious test for office, first off.

Obama got in trouble for his fiery Christian pastor. Then people are obsessed with his Arabic middle name and living abroad, he's a crypto-Muslim. He's a half black guy with a Muslim name born in the one US state that has never had a white majority — Hawai'i — and lived in a majority Islamic state Indonesia.

Obama is the "Other"... "Not Us". Race, religion, non-mainland, and people are freaking out. To me, he's pretty centrist, and techno-corporate.

Many people perceive he is not American enough. Are you one? Because he read a book by Alinsky? What time is your book burning party?

I don't use "racist" because I know that just ends the conversation. But ask yourself why someone would actually think he's on the side of Islamic terrorists instead of his own people? It's an outrageous accusation. Defend it.

Just a gut feeling I have.
Everyone is free to disagree.

So your gut says that Obama is on the side of the terrorists and an enemy of the American people?

Whats Obama's middle name? I mean if the shoe fits... Do folks really need more evidence? Sheesh!
What's Trump's middle name? John. So I guess he should be associated with serial killer John Wayne Gacy? Do folks really need more evidence? Sheesh?
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Might want to take a probiotic for that gut.
A stool softener might help too. Its going to hurt.
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9/20/2016  10:25 AM    LAST EDITED: 9/20/2016  10:26 AM
Nalod wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Wow, there are reports now that George H W Bush is supporting Hillary!

She is more conservative than he is.

Bush's really have never shown to be "conservative", they tow the party line.
George H. and even W. really never shown a core conservative line.

Im thinking for him to endorse Hilary is really calling out Trump the piece of shyt he is.
Don't forget, George H. and Bill Clinton relationship is very tight for many years. I thought for years George handed him the election and basically got to hand pick his successor.
Did Al Gore when W. was anointed a planned event? Did Gore not go along with the script?
Who knows, but George and Bill are as thick as thieves so its no surprise she gets a Bush endorsement. W. has a book about his paintings coming out. He is a far simple man.

Bill will a hand in a Hilary presidency. Is that a good thing? Maybe if the Republicans didn't have a clown running there would be a viable choice. I'll take "BillAry" over Donald and Melania.
Where is Melania? OUt campaigning? Or locked up as not to further embarrass her self?

True. Bill behind the scenes worries me as much as Hillary as president. If she ran openly as a conservative Democrat (which she is) her candidacy might be easier for me to handle. Its when she calls herself a progressive, that I have to change the channel.

Nixon did some progressive things in office, maybe more substantial than Bill Clinton, but no one would suggest that he was a progressive. Bill and Hillary Clinton have done very little to earn that label.
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9/20/2016  10:36 AM    LAST EDITED: 9/20/2016  10:47 AM
guns, I don't get what questioning someone's birthplace has to do with questioning that person's religion and ideology.

Obama's citizenship is a simple fact that Trump said he didn't believe. Simply put, Trump accused Obama of a grand conspiracy against the US stretching from Nairobi to Honolulu.

Now he thinks Obama is an American after the damage he caused to Obama's reputation in some circles was already done.

What was Trump's motive? I dunno. Why did the boy cry wolf? Attention, I guess.

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Where the heck is Hillary Clinton?

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