jskinny35 wrote:

Jimbo5 wrote:Is there a deal the knicks can make that will not leave the roster bare? Can a package of Randle, EF, IQ, Cam and 4 1st rounders be enough?

If the Jazz would take that deal we would have to do it... but that said - we'd have an overpriced backcourt of 2 6'1 guards with little defense. I thought Bruson or Donovan could work - but don't see a deep playoff team with those two as your starting backcourt. Talent is one thing - but the fit has to be there and I just don't see it unless they were to move Brunson after acquiring Mitchell. Also - not willing to gut the young talent at this point. Donovan is good but he's like a guard form of Melo - can create, score and is electric... but you have to surround him with mostly all defensive-minded players to account for his limitations as he is not a 2 way player.

Yup

Until Knicks start to play significant games rivalries don’t exist. Take off the jersey there is nothing about the team that plays there I object to. I respect them and their coach. Except look at the rafters and the pain they caused us. Then it gets more complicated.

Have the knicks and Nets ever competed for anything at the same time?

Phoenix has 48 hours to match.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34242899/phoenix-suns-deandre-ayton-signing-4-year-131m-maximum-contract-offer-sheet-indiana-pacers-agents-say

smackeddog wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:Ayton signed a 4 year, $133 million offer sheet with Indiana, per Woj.

Phoenix has 48 hours to match.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34242899/phoenix-suns-deandre-ayton-signing-4-year-131m-maximum-contract-offer-sheet-indiana-pacers-agents-say

Oof! I presume that takes the Suns out of the KD sweepstakes now? Unless they did a package around Mikal Bridges, in which case it leaves them very shallow. They’d be crazy not to work out a sign and trade for Miles Turner while they can salvage something. Man, their futures gone from having a core of Ayton, Bridges and Booker to carry on building around (huge blunder not drafting Haliburton) after age catches up to CP3, to just Booker and Bridges and Cam Johnson. It’s amazing how quickly things can fall apart and how badly some unforced errors can wreck you

Or the match it.............
The don't have to take back Turner.

My take is any deal with Ayton to BKN involving KD already came and went. But we have no idea who Ayton was talking to or Suns for that matter.
Teams not matching is such a rare event

smackeddog wrote:

Nalod wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:Ayton signed a 4 year, $133 million offer sheet with Indiana, per Woj.

Phoenix has 48 hours to match.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34242899/phoenix-suns-deandre-ayton-signing-4-year-131m-maximum-contract-offer-sheet-indiana-pacers-agents-say

Oof! I presume that takes the Suns out of the KD sweepstakes now? Unless they did a package around Mikal Bridges, in which case it leaves them very shallow. They’d be crazy not to work out a sign and trade for Miles Turner while they can salvage something. Man, their futures gone from having a core of Ayton, Bridges and Booker to carry on building around (huge blunder not drafting Haliburton) after age catches up to CP3, to just Booker and Bridges and Cam Johnson. It’s amazing how quickly things can fall apart and how badly some unforced errors can wreck you

Or the match it.............
The don't have to take back Turner.

My take is any deal with Ayton to BKN involving KD already came and went. But we have no idea who Ayton was talking to or Suns for that matter.
Teams not matching is such a rare event

I read the barriers to matching: Sarver not wanting to pay that kind of coin AND it’s become toxic between the coaches and Ayton AND the players and Ayton. plus the Pacers are likely to put all sorts of deterrents in there (trade kickers etc)

Sarver is not the only owner there and there are metrics to follow. Ayton is not worth 33mil. But Sarver likely about to get fried anyway given his lack of charactor.
That aside, Its not unreasonable to tell a guy to go get a market deal. Why bid against yourself. Toxic? Good point. We can guess all we want get the guess right but we'll know in 48 hours.
Ayton wants the money. Give up PHX winters for Indiana. Damn. He'll have Carlisle up his arse every day too.
33mil for Ayton. Damn. Inflation is a bitch!

Watching first few episodes of the HBO show “winning time” about Jerry Buss buying the lakers. I read the issues about how Jerry WEst was treated and while I understand the depiction is perhaps out of line I’m still Ike “Holy ****, is any of this inline”?
They are brutal on him. The “Logo” I understand had some issues with the lakers over the years and can only think some of this has to be leaning to be somewhat true. That his psyche was so damaged even if one quarter true is incredible.
That they did not use NBA film to show the recreated historical scenes of him as a player.
There is a lot of liberties taken. Adrian Brody as Pat Riley does not get his age right. IM early in the show and I know riles had some issues when he retired (I read his books) but the depiction is weird.

I like the show though and its pace. The Tarktainian thing has elements of truth but they did stretch it from what I read on it. I don’t want to spoil it so I’ll leave it there.

The Red Auerbach thing is comical.
For an old hoop junkie its a funny look back and can’t imagine anyone being happy with how they are depicted. Good cast, fun pace, and kind of silly.

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Really sucks for the Pacers, I feel so bad for them- could we maybe help them out by offering them Randle?

Should be interesting chemistry with the Suns- not only did they and the coaching staff have issues with Ayton from las season and the playoffs, but now he may have blown their shot at KD (unless they can use Bridges, Cam and picks)- CP3 must be furious. Could have spared themselves all this just by offering the max last season. Terrible tactics.

smackeddog wrote:

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Wonder if we sign him to be backup PF (if we trade obi)

I started a thread on this. He is from TarryTown/Dobbs Ferry. That’s essentially the practice facility. Probably would be a welcome signing.

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