You know what though. There is more to America than a few radically democratic cities. I've spoken to people who travel across the country. Trump has a ton of fed up Americans on his side. A few of the bigger cities are still up for grabs. Florida being one.

Also? Hillary is counting on the women vote but I'm pretty sure those mothers will want their children to be safe. When they do things like run in local marathons at 9:30am in their quite little beach towns.

gunsnewing wrote:I don't know maybe it's just me who has a problem with the ideology of Death to America and the same tired unspiring resolutions or lack there of from liberals and some democrats.

You know what though. There is more to America than a few radically democratic cities. I've spoken to people who travel across the country. Trump has a ton of fed up Americans on his side. A few of the bigger cities are still up for grabs. Florida being one.

Also? Hillary is counting on the women vote but I'm pretty sure those mothers will want their children to be safe. When they do things like run in local marathons at 9:30am in their quite little beach towns.

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Nalod wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

JesseDark wrote:I watched all the Sunday morning news shows this morning and not a single question to any Trump surrogate about when he will be releasing his taxes or the letter stating he was being audited. Very frustrating. Why not follow the question about President Obama's birth certificate with a tax question?

Who give a F about his taxes--have you ever walked into Trump Tower--the bottom line is the guy has more $ than 99.999999999% of people out there. We get around by car he gets around by private plane. Whatever his taxes say or dont say dont really prove relevant to over all wealth anyway.

By the way I think you said something about racism with Trump. What IF one of these days one of these fckers sit next to your son or daughter and lets a bomb go off and lets we'll see just how fast your tune changes. Because it has happened to you doesnt mean it wont. The bottom line right now. If your a police officer in the uS you now have 10X worse of a thought process with Africans Americans and believe me most Americans DO NOT want to sit next to someone from the ME --its sad both ways but true both ways.

Wow, you are really star struck by this guy. There are reams of information available about how this guy has played taxpayers thru incentives, bond buyers, and the TV public. Not Illegal but immoral dealings. A very clever man.

Here is why you should be worried. The thought is that he'll surround himself with smart people. He has in the campaign and some quit and some were fired. Some are deplorable in their own right.
The key here is if he surrounds himself with smart people but does not listen ("I know more than the generals"), then its wasted talent. If he surrounds himself with "Yes men" then be very afraid. Stalin did this because he would purge his people and to survive you did what you were asked.

Example: "I want to ****** those people". "Im sorry mr president, that is not legal". "Your fired!", whose next!!!!

Perhaps narcissistic folk are attracted to each other.

That's the kinda of guy you want on your side when the **** hits the fan.

Pat Riley was criticized for being classless and immoral.

Personally I'm not interested one bit about how he got there. I'm only interested in seeing results and resolutions so I don't have to walk past Newark Penn today and see cops placed at every outfit public trash bin. As Briggs and I've said for years people change their tone when it happens to them and their loved ones. It's all sunshine and rainbows until then.

After a 3rd term of Obama/Hillary/Alinsky illegal immigrants and refugees will have the right to vote for President and the America we've taken for granted will be no more. The status quo establishment prevails as will the dumbing down and programming of the American people under complete governmental control

We need smart people in the White House, not stupid reactionary neocons..When are you guys going to learn??..When is enough, enough??..If McCain were to become our President, God help us all...He spoke about the overthrow of Gaddafi and Libya, Backing Israel with Iran which means war, going into Syria, leaving ground forces to fight against the insurgency in Iraq which turned into ISIS...We keep banging our heads against the wall and still haven't learned anything...The CIA funded and thus created Mujahideen which became Al Qaeda, how did that work out for us...We invaded Iraq and spawned ISIS, how is that working out for us??..Now you recommend an impulsive idiot as who we need on our side if shet hits the fan??..Come on man...With neocons making decisions like these,..............

But when he said we might need to be in Iraq 100 years I didn't think it was messed up, it was real. In Iraq like we did Germany and Japan, nation building, especially since we broke it, we bought it. I protested against the war vote, wrote every representative. Because of the what comes next?

The bad intelligence — what a disgrace. Thank you Military-Industrial-Media complex! I used to love Colin Powell too and now he just looks like a clown, it's sad.

We had to leave because there wasn't much honor in the war (big up the folks who sacrifice no doubt) and no appetite. We played ourselves, both GOP and Dems deserve blame. Chaney greasing his CEO buddies palms and Dems wimping out coz they are just thinking of their future runs instead of legislating and checking exec power.

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martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Welpee wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:I mean think about it..If you boy from Fox News can prove that a respected organization like politifact is indeed bias and lies as well then it would be a major coop...But I'm sure he has his reason why he doesn't want to expose them..

I have no boys at Fox and I believe that all journalism is subjective not objective. That includes politifact and fox news and everyone else.

The point of showing that there are biased views that believe a subjective organization is biased ... the whole thing is silly. Whoever edits and controls each media has an ideological bias.

I read a "fact" that the Paper that runs politifact has never endorsed a Republican for president or Governor ... hmmmm.

Again, who owns what and what is their agenda / ideology? If you were objective which of course you aren't you would have done this fact checking. Saying that this their work and their reputation depends on it so therefore they must be objective is you just being lazy.

BEWARE THE MAN OF ONE STUDY (and yes, I am sure that it is subjective as well)

http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/12/12/beware-the-man-of-one-study/

Well that seems to be the game isn't it..Try to discredit those who question your facts or lack of it..Much like how you try to equate what Fox News does with CNN and Trump's lies with Hillary's lies..

the game is to get people to believe that what they are selling is fact and if you don't believe it, you are a bad, ignorant person, and of course un american or not a true knick fan.

I don't equate anything since subjectivity is not measurable. People who fall victim to the belief that there is objectivity in reporting maybe a bit more quantifiable.

No idea why you think I have a bias towards Trump, I don't. I am an objective jew who likes israel. Everyone in Israel btw, are objective. They just want do gooding to go on in the world.

Actually the game is to discredit all media so that nobody has be accountable for presenting facts, which allows people (Trump) to make up their own facts. If Trump tells a lie all he has to do is say the "mainstream media" and its automatically dismissed by his constituents no matter how true it is. There is difference between someone's point of view and facts. Saying Trump is lying about not supported the Iraq war prior to the invasion is a fact. Doesn't matter if CNN, MSNBC or Michael Moore says it, it is a fact. The source of the information doesn't change that it's true.

the point is that being that the MSM is far from objective, you can't take things that are claimed as fact based on the assumption of honesty and objectivity. Of course, we can use our own judgement to determine what (we believe) is true or not.

Do I believe that Trumps lies? I do. Is it because his pants are on fire? Of course not. Same goes for Hillary.

I find this an overly blanket statement

you are free to do that.

hey mreinman, you are very much watering down a thread that could be otherwise informative. If you don't really have anything to add, stick to the Knicks threads. Thanks.

I disagree ... you have posters who are stating things such as what politifact says is fact and you are not checking them.

this thread seems very one sided and you are very aggressively going after every dissenting opinion. Is that a fair and balanced approach?

I am not picking sides but if you will allow one side to just steamroll the other then that is unfair and as a mod, you should be enforcing a higher standard.

Respectfully,

This mentality of either you agree or get out seems very undemocratic and not open minded.

That's another thing I can't stand about the radical left. They are both the least democratic and least tolerant people you come across.

Example: See what happens when Republican students try to organize their own political rally in a U.S. University campus auditorium. You need the entire local police force to help campus security to restrain the radicals from trying to silence their free speech.

holfresh wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:I don't know maybe it's just me who has a problem with the ideology of Death to America and the same tired unspiring resolutions or lack there of from liberals and some democrats.

You know what though. There is more to America than a few radically democratic cities. I've spoken to people who travel across the country. Trump has a ton of fed up Americans on his side. A few of the bigger cities are still up for grabs. Florida being one.

Also? Hillary is counting on the women vote but I'm pretty sure those mothers will want their children to be safe. When they do things like run in local marathons at 9:30am in their quite little beach towns.

No, it's just not you unfortunately, there are others out there worried about "Death to America" chants...I'll leave you with this stat though, more people die from furniture than terrorism in America...But go ahead a spend another trillion dollars and create more terrorist...

Exactly my point.

No one cares until it's them or their loved ones

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martin wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:illegal immigrants are gonna have the right to vote under Queen Hillary of House Alinsky because she's gonna overrule the 14th amendment and states' rights by fiat...

lol

guns please pass what you are smoking!

lol right?

He who gets his Facts From Fox, I'm still laughing at that one

Now you are pulling a CNN and only showing a snippet of what I actually said but if FOX & CNN were the only 2 news outlets. I would choose fox 10/10 time for because at least I'd be getting SOME facts out of them.

Like I said I can think for myself unlike most and I can smell bull**** from a mile away. I can't watch CNN for more than 5mins at a time without being nauseated by all the bs

gunsnewing wrote:If you want some facts you watch Fox News.

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=55058&page=29

Don't even care if it was in relation to CNN or not. That's a whole sentence of what you believe.

gunsnewing wrote:This radical administration and their most stonch supportors like to accuse of fear mongering and say things like more Americans were killed by sharks this year than domestic terrorism.

However I am glad to to see Hillary starting to choose her words more wisely when it comes to things like a better getting system so we know who we are allowing in.

Shows me she has some common sense unlike Obama who regurgitates the same nonsense aced each incident leaving me to question his true beliefs and who's side he's actually on.

Just realized something that I was going back and forth on with Dr. Alphaeus and another poster in regards to the Trump birther thing. I was under the impression that it had to do with questioning Obamas religious and ideological beliefs. It didn't make sense to me that anyone would want a President removed because of the color of his skin in 2016. That's why I said I thought Trump didn't really believe what he was saying but was making the point that President Obama protects everyone but his own American people.

Maybe I am wrong about what exactly Trumps motives were at the time. I don't know you tell me. Those guys took it as me supporting Trumps racism towards a black President when that was the furthest thing from my mind and I would like to think Trumps as well. This is why I didn't understand what Doc was asking me. Now I got it.

There is no religious test for office, first off.

Obama got in trouble for his fiery Christian pastor. Then people are obsessed with his Arabic middle name and living abroad, he's a crypto-Muslim. He's a half black guy with a Muslim name born in the one US state that has never had a white majority — Hawai'i — and lived in a majority Islamic state Indonesia.

Obama is the "Other"... "Not Us". Race, religion, non-mainland, and people are freaking out. To me, he's pretty centrist, and techno-corporate.

Many people perceive he is not American enough. Are you one? Because he read a book by Alinsky? What time is your book burning party?

I don't use "racist" because I know that just ends the conversation. But ask yourself why someone would actually think he's on the side of Islamic terrorists instead of his own people? It's an outrageous accusation. Defend it.

I haven't seen anyone bring up their hypocrisy. This is the kind of garbage they pull all he time and radical left allows them to get away with it. All they can do is accuse Trump of racism and everyone eats it up. Offering a big ZERO in terms of solutions.

Wait but let's see Trumps taxes first!