markvmc wrote:Has anyone seen any actual evidence that it was Russia?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/22/politics/crowdstrike-dnc-hack-russian-military/

Cybersecurity firm: Russian military intelligence unit tied to DNC hack

(CNN)A hacking group tied to the incursion on the Democratic National Committee has been linked to Russian military intelligence, according to a new report by the cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike.
This finding is just the latest indication the Russian government was directly involved in the hack, which led to the release of thousands of emails among Democratic officials. That assessment has been echoed by the US intelligence community.
Last week, a US official told CNN the intelligence community assessed the hack could only have been carried out with the involvement of the "highest levels of government, including (President Vladimir Putin) himself."

The US official said there are two entities in Russia capable of doing this kind of work, but would not name either of them. The tools the Russians used are understood by the US and have a unique "signature."
CrowdStrike, which previously conducted a review of the hack for the DNC, now concludes that the hacking group responsible -- called FANCY BEAR -- was also behind malware used to facilitate reconnaissance against Ukrainian troops, allowing "Russia-based actors" to better target tactical artillery.
"The collection of such tactical artillery force positioning intelligence by FANCY BEAR further supports CrowdStrike's previous assessments that FANCY BEAR is likely affiliated with the Russian military intelligence (GRU), and works closely with Russian military forces operating in Eastern Ukraine and its border regions in Russia," CrowdStrike notes in their report.
CrowdStrike co-founder and chief technical officer Dmitri Alperovitch further confirmed to CNN it has a high degree of confidence, based in part on this new link, that a unit in the GRU was behind the DNC hack.

ALSO:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-cyber-ukraine-idUSKBN14B0CU

Russian hackers tracked Ukrainian artillery units using Android implant: report

holfresh wrote:

markvmc wrote:

holfresh wrote:

markvmc wrote:Has anyone seen any actual evidence that it was Russia?

Would you know how to recognize a hack by a specific entity if you were offered evidence?

No, but others who could, for example, write articles or appear on tv, to explain what happened, could. By way of comparison, I also couldn't recognize predatory financial mortgage manipulations, but I know that others can, and they can explain the evidence to me on tv/in the paper. In a way that picks up on actual evidence, as opposed to suspicion.

I'm committed to apportioning belief to the evidence. That's been the overall trend in this thread (and it's predecessor) regarding claims that illegals voted, for example. No evidence was forthcoming, so, rightly, people didn't accept those claims. But now the shoe is on the other foot. There are abundant claims, and lots of circumstantial evidence that Russia hacked into the Democrat's server, but there's no actual evidence. So why should we believe it? The CIA said so, of course, but it's not like they've been the guardians of honesty in the past. If it served some realpolitik interest they perceived, of course they would lie.

Just to be clear, I'm not saying Russia isn't behind this. They have interests that conflict with ours, and I'm sure they aren't squeamish about their methods, no more than are we. I'm just saying, if we're going to apportion our beliefs to the evidence, there hasn't been any.

I saw an interview on Friday on CNBC..It was an indepednat cyber security firm, Crowdstrike that first found the hacking..The guy that actually found it said the hack had the same cyber footprints, for lack of a better term, that he recognized to be Russian..He escalated it up to the intelengence agencies..

If I find a link for the on air interview, I'll post...

Cybersecurity firm says it has proof Russian military unit was behind DNC hack
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-cybersecurity-russian-hack-dnc-20161221-story.html

holfresh wrote:

holfresh wrote:

markvmc wrote:

holfresh wrote:

markvmc wrote:Has anyone seen any actual evidence that it was Russia?

Would you know how to recognize a hack by a specific entity if you were offered evidence?

No, but others who could, for example, write articles or appear on tv, to explain what happened, could. By way of comparison, I also couldn't recognize predatory financial mortgage manipulations, but I know that others can, and they can explain the evidence to me on tv/in the paper. In a way that picks up on actual evidence, as opposed to suspicion.

I'm committed to apportioning belief to the evidence. That's been the overall trend in this thread (and it's predecessor) regarding claims that illegals voted, for example. No evidence was forthcoming, so, rightly, people didn't accept those claims. But now the shoe is on the other foot. There are abundant claims, and lots of circumstantial evidence that Russia hacked into the Democrat's server, but there's no actual evidence. So why should we believe it? The CIA said so, of course, but it's not like they've been the guardians of honesty in the past. If it served some realpolitik interest they perceived, of course they would lie.

Just to be clear, I'm not saying Russia isn't behind this. They have interests that conflict with ours, and I'm sure they aren't squeamish about their methods, no more than are we. I'm just saying, if we're going to apportion our beliefs to the evidence, there hasn't been any.

I saw an interview on Friday on CNBC..It was an indepednat cyber security firm, Crowdstrike that first found the hacking..The guy that actually found it said the hack had the same cyber footprints, for lack of a better term, that he recognized to be Russian..He escalated it up to the intelengence agencies..

If I find a link for the on air interview, I'll post...

Cybersecurity firm says it has proof Russian military unit was behind DNC hack
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-cybersecurity-russian-hack-dnc-20161221-story.html

Next I guess we can expect Trump and his Acolytes to start trashing CrowdStrike and looking to discredit them as a source of information. It's just what i'd expect from them but I hope i'm wrong about this. We need to start acting like a unified country when it comes to foreign enemies.

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:

holfresh wrote:

markvmc wrote:

holfresh wrote:

markvmc wrote:Has anyone seen any actual evidence that it was Russia?

Would you know how to recognize a hack by a specific entity if you were offered evidence?

No, but others who could, for example, write articles or appear on tv, to explain what happened, could. By way of comparison, I also couldn't recognize predatory financial mortgage manipulations, but I know that others can, and they can explain the evidence to me on tv/in the paper. In a way that picks up on actual evidence, as opposed to suspicion.

I'm committed to apportioning belief to the evidence. That's been the overall trend in this thread (and it's predecessor) regarding claims that illegals voted, for example. No evidence was forthcoming, so, rightly, people didn't accept those claims. But now the shoe is on the other foot. There are abundant claims, and lots of circumstantial evidence that Russia hacked into the Democrat's server, but there's no actual evidence. So why should we believe it? The CIA said so, of course, but it's not like they've been the guardians of honesty in the past. If it served some realpolitik interest they perceived, of course they would lie.

Just to be clear, I'm not saying Russia isn't behind this. They have interests that conflict with ours, and I'm sure they aren't squeamish about their methods, no more than are we. I'm just saying, if we're going to apportion our beliefs to the evidence, there hasn't been any.

I saw an interview on Friday on CNBC..It was an indepednat cyber security firm, Crowdstrike that first found the hacking..The guy that actually found it said the hack had the same cyber footprints, for lack of a better term, that he recognized to be Russian..He escalated it up to the intelengence agencies..

If I find a link for the on air interview, I'll post...

Cybersecurity firm says it has proof Russian military unit was behind DNC hack
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-cybersecurity-russian-hack-dnc-20161221-story.html

Next I guess we can expect Trump and his Acolytes to start trashing CrowdStrike and looking to discredit them as a source of information. It's just what i'd expect from them but I hope i'm wrong about this. We need to start acting like a unified country when it comes to foreign enemies.

Unity??..Why does Trump and the Republicans get to behave in an unified manner and now the latest with Israel and the rest of us should fall in line??

holfresh wrote:

markvmc wrote:Has anyone seen any actual evidence that it was Russia?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/22/politics/crowdstrike-dnc-hack-russian-military/

Cybersecurity firm: Russian military intelligence unit tied to DNC hack

(CNN)A hacking group tied to the incursion on the Democratic National Committee has been linked to Russian military intelligence, according to a new report by the cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike.
This finding is just the latest indication the Russian government was directly involved in the hack, which led to the release of thousands of emails among Democratic officials. That assessment has been echoed by the US intelligence community.
Last week, a US official told CNN the intelligence community assessed the hack could only have been carried out with the involvement of the "highest levels of government, including (President Vladimir Putin) himself."

The US official said there are two entities in Russia capable of doing this kind of work, but would not name either of them. The tools the Russians used are understood by the US and have a unique "signature."
CrowdStrike, which previously conducted a review of the hack for the DNC, now concludes that the hacking group responsible -- called FANCY BEAR -- was also behind malware used to facilitate reconnaissance against Ukrainian troops, allowing "Russia-based actors" to better target tactical artillery.
"The collection of such tactical artillery force positioning intelligence by FANCY BEAR further supports CrowdStrike's previous assessments that FANCY BEAR is likely affiliated with the Russian military intelligence (GRU), and works closely with Russian military forces operating in Eastern Ukraine and its border regions in Russia," CrowdStrike notes in their report.
CrowdStrike co-founder and chief technical officer Dmitri Alperovitch further confirmed to CNN it has a high degree of confidence, based in part on this new link, that a unit in the GRU was behind the DNC hack.

ALSO:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-cyber-ukraine-idUSKBN14B0CU

Russian hackers tracked Ukrainian artillery units using Android implant: report

Thanks for posting those, Holfresh.

Trump Team Asks State Dept. To Name Those Working On Gender Equality
December 22, 20164:49 PM ET
BILL CHAPPELL

President-elect Donald Trump's transition team has asked the State Department to list its workers who focus on gender equality and ending violence against women, in what's being seen as an echo of an earlier request for the Energy Department to list employees who work on climate change.

In a brief email that was sent Wednesday morning, the Trump team asked the State Department's bureaus and offices to list any programs or activities that "promote gender equality, such as ending gender-based violence, promoting women's participation in economic and political spheres, entrepreneurship, etc."

The email was acquired and published by The New York Times, which reports:

"Although the wording of the memo is neutral and does not hint at any policy change, it rattled State Department employees, even those at senior levels. Some officials said they feared that the incoming Trump administration was trying to determine what programs were focused on lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender issues, though the memo did not refer to them."

The team also asked the department offices to "note positions whose primary functions are to promote such issues" and to highlight any funds for the current financial year that are "already allocated to such programs and activities."

Affirming the Times' characterization of the email's reception, The Los Angeles Times quotes a senior State Department official who said, "People are freaked out."

The topic also came up at Thursday's daily State Department briefing — but NPR's Michele Kelemen says it seemed that spokesman John Kirby sought to calm nerves about the request.

In a report for our Newscast unit, Michele quotes Kirby as saying, "To the degree that there is interest in the way that we have approached pursuing gender equality and human rights around the world by the transition team, we will certainly provide them the context, the information that is appropriate for them to make their own decisions going forward."

Kirby acknowledged that there could be "anxiety" at a time of transition, but he refused to go into details about the email or to verify the accuracy of the leaked documents.

Addressing his agency's approach to gender issues, Kirby told a reporter, "Obviously, gender equality issues here at the Department of State are a priority. Secretary Kerry has made them a priority; Secretary Clinton before him made it a priority, and it remains one for us here."

Kirby also suggested that the State Department might balk at naming its employees who have worked on those priorities, saying that in a hypothetical case, "if there were issue-specific names requested, obviously that would be of concern to us and it would not be the kind of information that we would deem to be appropriate to be passed along."

Shortly after the transition team's email became public, the Twitter account of the State Department's Political-Military Affairs bureau posted a note of support for the National Action Plan on Women, Peace, & Security — a program that was celebrated in a State Department tweet Wednesday, as the agency marked five years since the plan was introduced by President Obama.

In response to reports about the memo, Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, D-N.H., who serves on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, issued a statement saying in part:

"In light of previous requests made by the Trump transition team, today's report that the incoming administration is requesting all information related to State Department programs that promote gender equality is concerning and the transition team should clarify their intent.... Women and girls' equality is transformative for communities and economies, and the existing State Department programs have achieved great successes to advance education access for girls, protect women from trafficking, end child marriage, and combat gender-based violence."

The Trump team's request, which set a deadline of Wednesday afternoon to produce the lists, comes one week after the Energy Department rebuffed a request from Trump's transition team to name employees working on climate change.

As NPR's Brakkton Booker has reported, the Trump team's 74-point questionnaire on climate change "raised fears among civil rights lawyers specializing in federal worker whistleblower protections, who say the incoming administration is at a minimum trying to influence or limit the research."

In refusing the Trump team's request, the Energy Department said many of its staff members were "unsettled" by the gesture, stating that while it would share any information that was already public, it would not produce a list of individual names.

Early last week, Trump said he is nominating Exxon Mobil Chairman and CEO Rex Tillerson to lead the State Department.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/22/506629695/trump-team-asks-state-dept-to-name-those-working-on-gender-equality?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=2050

nixluva wrote:Trump seems to have forgotten that there's only one President at a time! He needs to shut his mouth and wait his turn. Honestly tho we're PHUCKED if he does any of the stuff he's Tweeting about. Talking about NUKES???

him and putin have something going. putin says something about military first, now trump. will the us and russia join forces to take over the world?

holfresh wrote:Israel reaches out to Trump to undercut a UN vote against Israel regarding settlements in Palestinian territory that Obama was going to allow...Trump tweets, Egypt drops vote at the UN...Trump undercuts Obama's authority before taking office...Unprecedented...

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/811928543366148096

Totally stunning...might actually come in conflict with the Logan Act. Hard to comprehend what he is thinking...he should have turned away any contact from Israel on this matter.