mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:I mean think about it..If you boy from Fox News can prove that a respected organization like politifact is indeed bias and lies as well then it would be a major coop...But I'm sure he has his reason why he doesn't want to expose them..

I have no boys at Fox and I believe that all journalism is subjective not objective. That includes politifact and fox news and everyone else.

The point of showing that there are biased views that believe a subjective organization is biased ... the whole thing is silly. Whoever edits and controls each media has an ideological bias.

I read a "fact" that the Paper that runs politifact has never endorsed a Republican for president or Governor ... hmmmm.

Again, who owns what and what is their agenda / ideology? If you were objective which of course you aren't you would have done this fact checking. Saying that this their work and their reputation depends on it so therefore they must be objective is you just being lazy.

BEWARE THE MAN OF ONE STUDY (and yes, I am sure that it is subjective as well)

http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/12/12/beware-the-man-of-one-study/

Well that seems to be the game isn't it..Try to discredit those who question your facts or lack of it..Much like how you try to equate what Fox News does with CNN and Trump's lies with Hillary's lies..

the game is to get people to believe that what they are selling is fact and if you don't believe it, you are a bad, ignorant person, and of course un american or not a true knick fan.

I don't equate anything since subjectivity is not measurable. People who fall victim to the belief that there is objectivity in reporting maybe a bit more quantifiable.

No idea why you think I have a bias towards Trump, I don't. I am an objective jew who likes israel. Everyone in Israel btw, are objective. They just want do gooding to go on in the world.

You just did the same thing you accuse everyone else of. I like your initial line of reasoning that everyone is biased and there is no objectivity. I would argue, that's not limited to journalism.

But when you claim Israeli Jews are all objective do-gooders you quickly lose all the credibility you had earned with your line of reasoning.

When it comes to Israel you seem to be every bit as objective as Fox is about Trump.

JesseDark wrote:I watched all the Sunday morning news shows this morning and not a single question to any Trump surrogate about when he will be releasing his taxes or the letter stating he was being audited. Very frustrating. Why not follow the question about President Obama's birth certificate with a tax question?

Who give a F about his taxes--have you ever walked into Trump Tower--the bottom line is the guy has more $ than 99.999999999% of people out there. We get around by car he gets around by private plane. Whatever his taxes say or dont say dont really prove relevant to over all wealth anyway.

By the way I think you said something about racism with Trump. What IF one of these days one of these fckers sit next to your son or daughter and lets a bomb go off and lets we'll see just how fast your tune changes. Because it has happened to you doesnt mean it wont. The bottom line right now. If your a police officer in the uS you now have 10X worse of a thought process with Africans Americans and believe me most Americans DO NOT want to sit next to someone from the ME --its sad both ways but true both ways.

BRIGGS wrote:

JesseDark wrote:I watched all the Sunday morning news shows this morning and not a single question to any Trump surrogate about when he will be releasing his taxes or the letter stating he was being audited. Very frustrating. Why not follow the question about President Obama's birth certificate with a tax question?

Who give a F about his taxes--have you ever walked into Trump Tower--the bottom line is the guy has more $ than 99.999999999% of people out there. We get around by car he gets around by private plane. Whatever his taxes say or dont say dont really prove relevant to over all wealth anyway.

By the way I think you said something about racism with Trump. What IF one of these days one of these fckers sit next to your son or daughter and lets a bomb go off and lets we'll see just how fast your tune changes. Because it has happened to you doesnt mean it wont. The bottom line right now. If your a police officer in the uS you now have 10X worse of a thought process with Africans Americans and believe me most Americans DO NOT want to sit next to someone from the ME --its sad both ways but true both ways.

To give an analogy Trump is a guy who dosn't what to show his phone to his spouse cause he know what it will reveal about himself. He has done the calculus and sees there is more to gain by hiding his tax rate and lack of charitable contributions from the American people and saps lack you believe there is nothing to give a F about.

Of course no one wants loved ones or anyone to be killed or injured. As an African American my son or daughter has greater odds of being killed by a rogue cop who felt threaten by their blackness than a terrorist. Trump is offering only tough talk, a sugar pill, for folks who are looking to turn back the clock.

meloshouldgo wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:I mean think about it..If you boy from Fox News can prove that a respected organization like politifact is indeed bias and lies as well then it would be a major coop...But I'm sure he has his reason why he doesn't want to expose them..

I have no boys at Fox and I believe that all journalism is subjective not objective. That includes politifact and fox news and everyone else.

The point of showing that there are biased views that believe a subjective organization is biased ... the whole thing is silly. Whoever edits and controls each media has an ideological bias.

I read a "fact" that the Paper that runs politifact has never endorsed a Republican for president or Governor ... hmmmm.

Again, who owns what and what is their agenda / ideology? If you were objective which of course you aren't you would have done this fact checking. Saying that this their work and their reputation depends on it so therefore they must be objective is you just being lazy.

BEWARE THE MAN OF ONE STUDY (and yes, I am sure that it is subjective as well)

http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/12/12/beware-the-man-of-one-study/

Well that seems to be the game isn't it..Try to discredit those who question your facts or lack of it..Much like how you try to equate what Fox News does with CNN and Trump's lies with Hillary's lies..

the game is to get people to believe that what they are selling is fact and if you don't believe it, you are a bad, ignorant person, and of course un american or not a true knick fan.

I don't equate anything since subjectivity is not measurable. People who fall victim to the belief that there is objectivity in reporting maybe a bit more quantifiable.

No idea why you think I have a bias towards Trump, I don't. I am an objective jew who likes israel. Everyone in Israel btw, are objective. They just want do gooding to go on in the world.

You just did the same thing you accuse everyone else of. I like your initial line of reasoning that everyone is biased and there is no objectivity. I would argue, that's not limited to journalism.

But when you claim Israeli Jews are all objective do-gooders you quickly lose all the credibility you had earned with your line of reasoning.

When it comes to Israel you seem to be every bit as objective as Fox is about Trump.

my line about israel was obviously me showing how subjective I am and of course israelis are not all do gooders and if I say that its obviously extremely subjective (though I was kidding to show my point).

mreinman wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:I mean think about it..If you boy from Fox News can prove that a respected organization like politifact is indeed bias and lies as well then it would be a major coop...But I'm sure he has his reason why he doesn't want to expose them..

I have no boys at Fox and I believe that all journalism is subjective not objective. That includes politifact and fox news and everyone else.

The point of showing that there are biased views that believe a subjective organization is biased ... the whole thing is silly. Whoever edits and controls each media has an ideological bias.

I read a "fact" that the Paper that runs politifact has never endorsed a Republican for president or Governor ... hmmmm.

Again, who owns what and what is their agenda / ideology? If you were objective which of course you aren't you would have done this fact checking. Saying that this their work and their reputation depends on it so therefore they must be objective is you just being lazy.

BEWARE THE MAN OF ONE STUDY (and yes, I am sure that it is subjective as well)

http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/12/12/beware-the-man-of-one-study/

Well that seems to be the game isn't it..Try to discredit those who question your facts or lack of it..Much like how you try to equate what Fox News does with CNN and Trump's lies with Hillary's lies..

the game is to get people to believe that what they are selling is fact and if you don't believe it, you are a bad, ignorant person, and of course un american or not a true knick fan.

I don't equate anything since subjectivity is not measurable. People who fall victim to the belief that there is objectivity in reporting maybe a bit more quantifiable.

No idea why you think I have a bias towards Trump, I don't. I am an objective jew who likes israel. Everyone in Israel btw, are objective. They just want do gooding to go on in the world.

You just did the same thing you accuse everyone else of. I like your initial line of reasoning that everyone is biased and there is no objectivity. I would argue, that's not limited to journalism.

But when you claim Israeli Jews are all objective do-gooders you quickly lose all the credibility you had earned with your line of reasoning.

When it comes to Israel you seem to be every bit as objective as Fox is about Trump.

my line about israel was obviously me showing how subjective I am and of course israelis are not all do gooders and if I say that its obviously extremely subjective (though I was kidding to show my point).

This is not the thread to be kidding to sarcastic to the point of misleading or mis-characterizing what you intend.

BRIGGS wrote:

JesseDark wrote:I watched all the Sunday morning news shows this morning and not a single question to any Trump surrogate about when he will be releasing his taxes or the letter stating he was being audited. Very frustrating. Why not follow the question about President Obama's birth certificate with a tax question?

Who give a F about his taxes--have you ever walked into Trump Tower--the bottom line is the guy has more $ than 99.999999999% of people out there. We get around by car he gets around by private plane. Whatever his taxes say or dont say dont really prove relevant to over all wealth anyway.

By the way I think you said something about racism with Trump. What IF one of these days one of these fckers sit next to your son or daughter and lets a bomb go off and lets we'll see just how fast your tune changes. Because it has happened to you doesnt mean it wont. The bottom line right now. If your a police officer in the uS you now have 10X worse of a thought process with Africans Americans and believe me most Americans DO NOT want to sit next to someone from the ME --its sad both ways but true both ways.

WTF does that even mean? Someone's taxes absolutely will shed an incredible amount of light and what's going on the person and we should know how much and to whom Trump is in debt to.

You are in love with a racist, lying, narcissist human being who has zero ability to run a government and who has shown zero toward civil service duty.

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:I mean think about it..If you boy from Fox News can prove that a respected organization like politifact is indeed bias and lies as well then it would be a major coop...But I'm sure he has his reason why he doesn't want to expose them..

I have no boys at Fox and I believe that all journalism is subjective not objective. That includes politifact and fox news and everyone else.

The point of showing that there are biased views that believe a subjective organization is biased ... the whole thing is silly. Whoever edits and controls each media has an ideological bias.

I read a "fact" that the Paper that runs politifact has never endorsed a Republican for president or Governor ... hmmmm.

Again, who owns what and what is their agenda / ideology? If you were objective which of course you aren't you would have done this fact checking. Saying that this their work and their reputation depends on it so therefore they must be objective is you just being lazy.

BEWARE THE MAN OF ONE STUDY (and yes, I am sure that it is subjective as well)

http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/12/12/beware-the-man-of-one-study/

Well that seems to be the game isn't it..Try to discredit those who question your facts or lack of it..Much like how you try to equate what Fox News does with CNN and Trump's lies with Hillary's lies..

the game is to get people to believe that what they are selling is fact and if you don't believe it, you are a bad, ignorant person, and of course un american or not a true knick fan.

I don't equate anything since subjectivity is not measurable. People who fall victim to the belief that there is objectivity in reporting maybe a bit more quantifiable.

No idea why you think I have a bias towards Trump, I don't. I am an objective jew who likes israel. Everyone in Israel btw, are objective. They just want do gooding to go on in the world.

You just did the same thing you accuse everyone else of. I like your initial line of reasoning that everyone is biased and there is no objectivity. I would argue, that's not limited to journalism.

But when you claim Israeli Jews are all objective do-gooders you quickly lose all the credibility you had earned with your line of reasoning.

When it comes to Israel you seem to be every bit as objective as Fox is about Trump.

my line about israel was obviously me showing how subjective I am and of course israelis are not all do gooders and if I say that its obviously extremely subjective (though I was kidding to show my point).

This is not the thread to be kidding to sarcastic to the point of misleading or mis-characterizing what you intend.

This was not quite obvious that I was making a point about objectiveness?

I am an objective jew who likes israel. Everyone in Israel btw, are objective. They just want do gooding to go on in the world.

I just got finished saying that there is NO such thing as objective.

Obviously no

wow ... ok

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:I mean think about it..If you boy from Fox News can prove that a respected organization like politifact is indeed bias and lies as well then it would be a major coop...But I'm sure he has his reason why he doesn't want to expose them..

I have no boys at Fox and I believe that all journalism is subjective not objective. That includes politifact and fox news and everyone else.

The point of showing that there are biased views that believe a subjective organization is biased ... the whole thing is silly. Whoever edits and controls each media has an ideological bias.

I read a "fact" that the Paper that runs politifact has never endorsed a Republican for president or Governor ... hmmmm.

Again, who owns what and what is their agenda / ideology? If you were objective which of course you aren't you would have done this fact checking. Saying that this their work and their reputation depends on it so therefore they must be objective is you just being lazy.

BEWARE THE MAN OF ONE STUDY (and yes, I am sure that it is subjective as well)

http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/12/12/beware-the-man-of-one-study/

Well that seems to be the game isn't it..Try to discredit those who question your facts or lack of it..Much like how you try to equate what Fox News does with CNN and Trump's lies with Hillary's lies..

the game is to get people to believe that what they are selling is fact and if you don't believe it, you are a bad, ignorant person, and of course un american or not a true knick fan.

I don't equate anything since subjectivity is not measurable. People who fall victim to the belief that there is objectivity in reporting maybe a bit more quantifiable.

No idea why you think I have a bias towards Trump, I don't. I am an objective jew who likes israel. Everyone in Israel btw, are objective. They just want do gooding to go on in the world.

So being an objective Jew, why are you spinning the idea that Hillary hates Isreal??..Where is your proof?..Those tricky facts again...Last time you didn't respond when I asked..U gonna answer this time Crossdresser??

Did I say she hates israel or is that your objective brain over heating with subjectiveness?

Again, Hillary scares me because I think she will be heavily anti israel.

Obviously you want to engage in wordsmanship and not a lucid conversation of ideas as usual...

ah ... so mr factchecker would have passed the golden politifact test saying that I said Hillary hates israel because of the subjective opinion that I have about hillary being anti israel?

well done sir! Your pants are on fire.

Bonn1997 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:I mean think about it..If you boy from Fox News can prove that a respected organization like politifact is indeed bias and lies as well then it would be a major coop...But I'm sure he has his reason why he doesn't want to expose them..

I have no boys at Fox and I believe that all journalism is subjective not objective. That includes politifact and fox news and everyone else.

The point of showing that there are biased views that believe a subjective organization is biased ... the whole thing is silly. Whoever edits and controls each media has an ideological bias.

I read a "fact" that the Paper that runs politifact has never endorsed a Republican for president or Governor ... hmmmm.

Again, who owns what and what is their agenda / ideology? If you were objective which of course you aren't you would have done this fact checking. Saying that this their work and their reputation depends on it so therefore they must be objective is you just being lazy.

BEWARE THE MAN OF ONE STUDY (and yes, I am sure that it is subjective as well)

http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/12/12/beware-the-man-of-one-study/

Well that seems to be the game isn't it..Try to discredit those who question your facts or lack of it..Much like how you try to equate what Fox News does with CNN and Trump's lies with Hillary's lies..

the game is to get people to believe that what they are selling is fact and if you don't believe it, you are a bad, ignorant person, and of course un american or not a true knick fan.

I don't equate anything since subjectivity is not measurable. People who fall victim to the belief that there is objectivity in reporting maybe a bit more quantifiable.

No idea why you think I have a bias towards Trump, I don't. I am an objective jew who likes israel. Everyone in Israel btw, are objective. They just want do gooding to go on in the world.

You just did the same thing you accuse everyone else of. I like your initial line of reasoning that everyone is biased and there is no objectivity. I would argue, that's not limited to journalism.

But when you claim Israeli Jews are all objective do-gooders you quickly lose all the credibility you had earned with your line of reasoning.

When it comes to Israel you seem to be every bit as objective as Fox is about Trump.

my line about israel was obviously me showing how subjective I am and of course israelis are not all do gooders and if I say that its obviously extremely subjective (though I was kidding to show my point).

This is not the thread to be kidding to sarcastic to the point of misleading or mis-characterizing what you intend.

This was not quite obvious that I was making a point about objectiveness?

I am an objective jew who likes israel. Everyone in Israel btw, are objective. They just want do gooding to go on in the world.

I just got finished saying that there is NO such thing as objective.

Obviously no

wow ... ok

I assumed you were kidding but wasn't sure.

just as I assumed you were kidding when you joked about liberals and facts.

mreinman wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:I mean think about it..If you boy from Fox News can prove that a respected organization like politifact is indeed bias and lies as well then it would be a major coop...But I'm sure he has his reason why he doesn't want to expose them..

I have no boys at Fox and I believe that all journalism is subjective not objective. That includes politifact and fox news and everyone else.

The point of showing that there are biased views that believe a subjective organization is biased ... the whole thing is silly. Whoever edits and controls each media has an ideological bias.

I read a "fact" that the Paper that runs politifact has never endorsed a Republican for president or Governor ... hmmmm.

Again, who owns what and what is their agenda / ideology? If you were objective which of course you aren't you would have done this fact checking. Saying that this their work and their reputation depends on it so therefore they must be objective is you just being lazy.

BEWARE THE MAN OF ONE STUDY (and yes, I am sure that it is subjective as well)

http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/12/12/beware-the-man-of-one-study/

Well that seems to be the game isn't it..Try to discredit those who question your facts or lack of it..Much like how you try to equate what Fox News does with CNN and Trump's lies with Hillary's lies..

the game is to get people to believe that what they are selling is fact and if you don't believe it, you are a bad, ignorant person, and of course un american or not a true knick fan.

I don't equate anything since subjectivity is not measurable. People who fall victim to the belief that there is objectivity in reporting maybe a bit more quantifiable.

No idea why you think I have a bias towards Trump, I don't. I am an objective jew who likes israel. Everyone in Israel btw, are objective. They just want do gooding to go on in the world.

You just did the same thing you accuse everyone else of. I like your initial line of reasoning that everyone is biased and there is no objectivity. I would argue, that's not limited to journalism.

But when you claim Israeli Jews are all objective do-gooders you quickly lose all the credibility you had earned with your line of reasoning.

When it comes to Israel you seem to be every bit as objective as Fox is about Trump.

my line about israel was obviously me showing how subjective I am and of course israelis are not all do gooders and if I say that its obviously extremely subjective (though I was kidding to show my point).

Gotcha. Sarcasm doesn't always come out clearly, but like you said this one was obvious.
Overall, I do agree with your take.

meloshouldgo wrote:

mreinman wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:I mean think about it..If you boy from Fox News can prove that a respected organization like politifact is indeed bias and lies as well then it would be a major coop...But I'm sure he has his reason why he doesn't want to expose them..

I have no boys at Fox and I believe that all journalism is subjective not objective. That includes politifact and fox news and everyone else.

The point of showing that there are biased views that believe a subjective organization is biased ... the whole thing is silly. Whoever edits and controls each media has an ideological bias.

I read a "fact" that the Paper that runs politifact has never endorsed a Republican for president or Governor ... hmmmm.

Again, who owns what and what is their agenda / ideology? If you were objective which of course you aren't you would have done this fact checking. Saying that this their work and their reputation depends on it so therefore they must be objective is you just being lazy.

BEWARE THE MAN OF ONE STUDY (and yes, I am sure that it is subjective as well)

http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/12/12/beware-the-man-of-one-study/

Well that seems to be the game isn't it..Try to discredit those who question your facts or lack of it..Much like how you try to equate what Fox News does with CNN and Trump's lies with Hillary's lies..

the game is to get people to believe that what they are selling is fact and if you don't believe it, you are a bad, ignorant person, and of course un american or not a true knick fan.

I don't equate anything since subjectivity is not measurable. People who fall victim to the belief that there is objectivity in reporting maybe a bit more quantifiable.

No idea why you think I have a bias towards Trump, I don't. I am an objective jew who likes israel. Everyone in Israel btw, are objective. They just want do gooding to go on in the world.

You just did the same thing you accuse everyone else of. I like your initial line of reasoning that everyone is biased and there is no objectivity. I would argue, that's not limited to journalism.

But when you claim Israeli Jews are all objective do-gooders you quickly lose all the credibility you had earned with your line of reasoning.

When it comes to Israel you seem to be every bit as objective as Fox is about Trump.

my line about israel was obviously me showing how subjective I am and of course israelis are not all do gooders and if I say that its obviously extremely subjective (though I was kidding to show my point).

Gotcha. Sarcasm doesn't always come out clearly, but like you said this one was obvious.
Overall, I do agree with your take.

I like the dryness of overly obvious though unstated sarcasm. Sometimes its to prove a point ... the fact that people thought I was serious just underlines how people are numb to subjectivity.