RonRon wrote:dk7th wrote:RonRon wrote:Sloan: Morey, Karl Discuss Why Teams Must Play Fast
Feb 28, 2014 12:07 PM EST
George Karl and Daryl Morey agreed that you cannot play a slow pace in today's NBA in a panel at the MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference. Defenses are just too good, they said, with Morey citing Tom Thibodeau's ability to smother teams deep in the shot clock. The data show clearly that early scores are vital.
Morey discussed the different use of Dwight Howard by the Houston Rockets. Stan Van Gundy ran set plays for Howard when he was with the Orlando Magic, but he is getting the ball with the Rockets in unpredictable situations and scoring efficiently.
A quick-hitting, fast-thinking attack wins.
Morey recalled reports the Rockets use to run on the effectiveness of different plays called by then-head coach Jeff Van Gundy was with Houston. Above all the set plays was a play categorized as Random, when a play call broke down and a random screen was set to free up a scorer. This was the most effective play.
Karl thought back to the time after the Denver Nuggets acquired Raymond Felton. Karl said he thought Felton was perhaps his best guard at the time but Lawson had the starting job. So to improve Denver's ability to make fast decisions, Karl played them together. Karl believes this may have started a trend in the league of a two-point guard offense.
The panel discussed fouling up three in the closing seconds. Even though the numbers support taking the foul, it's not done widely. Karl cited a lack of devoted practice time to making sure teams can execute a two-shot foul.
Morey said you should win the game almost always either way, but cited coaches wanting to show confidence in their defense to stop the three, or just the embarrassment factor of not wanting to give up the three-point foul. Kobe Bryant was named as one of the best at anticipating the intentional foul and getting off an attempt from behind the arc as the contact is made.
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We are one of the TOP team that do NOT TURNOVER the ball
Kidd was one of the players that consistently looked pushed the tempo and that was one of our area's where Lin was missed
This season this is one of our biggest weakness's in addition to our Coach, who clearly has loss the team, but unlike Dantoni, Woodson is a fighter and shall not admit DEFEAT....
that's why carmelo anthony is a dinosaur. plodding and slow decision-making too much of the time.
In all fairness, is that held more accountable by Woodson, Melo, the roster/team, and the GM?
I believe Grunweld was also partly let go because he wanted to convince Dolan to keep Lin thus the delay during that summer
However, I think they originally were thinking about matching the offer to trade him for assets in the future, they were skeptical about being able to trade him with the 3year deal vs 4 year deal though
And Woodson likely felt Lin was not needed for that amount of money and felt it would create more animosity with Melo/JR, where Woodson has never been a PG oriented and prefers vets to run his system
I don't think it is a good thing that Melo allows others to rest by bringing up the ball at times, however, not majority of the times, it takes a wear on him as well too
One of Melo's attributes on fast break's is his ability to get a shot off quickly or on TAP OUT's/OFF REBOUND's, you can call it a heave/chuck but I think it is one of his higher % shot selections
Melo shouldn't be initiating the OFFENSE, he lacks IQ, the physical ability without great speed/quickness or athleticism/length
He is only able to beat his man off the dribble when certain PF's defend his shot with the correct spacing of other players as well
Melo doesn't make good decisions, is not a leader, and his style of play does not allow his team mates to play OFF his abilities in an effective/consistent manner
You put Melo in a team full of talent and a leader that Melo actually respects, he would likely do well (at least 10x better than the way Woodson enables him now), though he would have to be willing to take a backseat, like Wade/Bosh have done for Lebron
it's a confluence of things. i happen to be a proponent of building from the top-down and the knicks have not done that, and have not really done anything approaching that ever since don nelson. if you recall, he wanted to impose a fastbreaking offense but that was not to ewing's liking, who like melo was a plodder.
i liked the walsh hire because there was at least some plan to build the team from the top down for as long as dolan kept out of the way.
since february 2011 there has been no coherent plan and the result is the chaos of the melo era.
you bring in melo and then ask d'antoni to adapt or melo to adapt. it was bound to fail-- bad fit, never mind that dolan allowed himself to get raped in the deal. maybe if dolan hires a coach with a higher salary than melo it will help restore order.
then you have the lin situation, a miracle and closer in style to what d'antoni wanted, but not what melo wanted or fit with, and he is gone. i agree with you about grunwald wanting to intercede but he can't win over dolan and melo any more than walsh could.
walsh "retires" after dolan lowballs him and grunwald is fired. detect a pattern?
anyway who comes in after d'antoni? right-- woodson, who as you rightly note has no real need for a d'antoni-like pg and loves the joe johnson iso ball, slowdown offense. i really didn't like the way woodson spoke about lin-- very subdued, even down on the kid. that told me something.
this aspect of this mess all goes back to dolan of course, with a huge assist from melo. karma's a bitch, and i happen to believe that karma can often affect others around the particular person as part of that person's larger life lesson. melo has a lot to learn, and it looks like he never will learn.
i don't agree with the shooting off breaks, tapouts with melo. the reason is not that he can't make them at a decent clip but that they then lead to heatcheck shots that are as bad as turnovers in the playoffs. it's a profoundly stupid gamble especially for a guy who lacks poise like melo does.
lastly, the melo issue is that he has overrated himself and been pre-occupied with maximum money. those two things together make for a guy who will find himself on a bad team putting up empty numbers.
and that is the knicks: a bad team with one guy putting up empty numbers.
knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%