blkexec wrote:Obviously the felton haters will never show their face now. But during those felton vs ....damn I honestly forgot his name...overpaid pg for houston. But people actually argued about this before the season began. I was pro felton when he was over weight in portland. Because I knew this city and the linsanity challenge would make felton step his game up. Hes a ny type of point guard. Feltons strength and iq is a plus. And hes becoming that leader this team needs who excels next to star players. Sorry for bringing up lin....I really hate doing that. But I think felton will always be compared to lin since hes the reason we let lin go. Along with kidd and pablo. As far as his defense, he needs to improve it....but his impact is so huge

But the Knick's could have had BOTH
Having Lin on the bench and Iman as our development players for a bright future, or at the very least an asset

dk7th wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

misterearl wrote:Red On Roundball

Raymond Felton can make himself better by not dropping his focus on the dribble. Waiting for players to get in position for set plays, as he dribbles, his occasional habit of looking down tips off the defender on the timing. With his head down, his teammates also know he cannot see them. The simple fix is for Raymond to be aware of his body language at all times, not get stuck in tunnel vision.

Pablo has his head up at all times.

True.

Hard to teach at this point. He just does not have good court vision. Can he change? Who knows but I have not seen it happen this late in ones career.

i believe you can work on dribbling with your head up as a basketball skill when you are young enough and your brain is still forming. if you rely on athleticism to get over and don't work on developing skills during your teen years it eventually catches up with you.

felton does not have good court vision because court vision is a natural gift and he does not possess that gift. even if he had that gift, what good is it if you dribble with your head down?

it's too late to learn.

felton has two problems, one he does not dribble with his head up and two, he cannot maintain his dribble. hence it makes orchestrating next to impossible.

Excuse me???

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Anji wrote:May bad, I guess the sign and trade counts as three, even though it's more of a free agency loop hole.

not for nothing but he has been listed as a sg his first season. something to think about when assessing his point guard play.

so ar as sign and trade stop playing games. the guy has been "moved" four times and no doubt will be moved from new york in the foreseeable future-- guaranteed.

1) charlotte to new york
2) new york to denver
3) denver to portland
4) portland to new york

i will root for the knicks to win and win big time but i don't see felton as instrumental in this. some poster has recently postulated that he "fits in with the team's objectives perfectly." LOL at such nonsense. yes he is a scrapper but his cardinal flaw is that he does not play within his limitations and always tries to outplay superior point guards to validate his worth. i promise you that this will hurt the team once we get past the first round.

24-9 with Felton 6-6 without him. The record with Felton on the court is Probably better if you take away some of the games where he had bone bruises on each hand.

dk7..That was me who said he "fits perfectly with the team's objectives"...U get it yet or is it still foggy??...Are u still LOL-ing???..24-9 with Felton...6-6 without....24-9 with...6-6 without....24-9 with...6-6 without...24-9 with...6-6 without...4-1 since the return...Get it??

RonRon wrote:

holfresh wrote:

RonRon wrote:

blkexec wrote:Obviously the felton haters will never show their face now. But during those felton vs ....damn I honestly forgot his name...overpaid pg for houston. But people actually argued about this before the season began. I was pro felton when he was over weight in portland. Because I knew this city and the linsanity challenge would make felton step his game up. Hes a ny type of point guard. Feltons strength and iq is a plus. And hes becoming that leader this team needs who excels next to star players. Sorry for bringing up lin....I really hate doing that. But I think felton will always be compared to lin since hes the reason we let lin go. Along with kidd and pablo. As far as his defense, he needs to improve it....but his impact is so huge

But the Knick's could have had BOTH
Having Lin on the bench and Iman as our development players for a bright future, or at the very least an asset

15 mil in the third year is no asset...

so is Amare and his 20m+ contract on multiple years, yet many in here still think they can get Pau Gasol in here
We are capped out anyway within these 3 years, it doesn't mean a damn thing
Let's put it this way, his contract would still be much more than STAT's any day of the week, would a team that is under the cap trade for a PG with 1st round pick, prior to his 3rd year to generate more fans 10 billion more in China? Possibly? So It is NOT untradeable, STAT's is much harder to deal, and we don't pay for his 3rd year salary now, so what is the big deal? If we were willing to pay 10m for per year, what is 5 extra m, I would simply not have resigned Novak and most of it would been saved there
Many veteran minimum shooters with more skill's can be found at that price

Eddy Curry, Steve Francis, Jalens Rose, Starbury, Antonio Davis, these were all VASTLY overpaid, some max contracts, and there are plenty more that I can name
What is Lin's one year when compared to the contracts of those players?

We are 30-15 without Lin...The Knicks value increased by 43% over the last year and is now worth $1.1 billion without Lin and his 10 billion followers..STAT was key to the turnaround of this franchise and no doubt adding to the bottom line value..Thus an asset...His 20 mil is chump change...Lin didn't want to be here...No player is bigger than the team...He wanted out and he got out...No tears here..Win/Win for everyone involved..Did I mention 30-15 without Lin..What would our record be with a healthy Felton through out???...

Pau is soft..He ain't built for NY..