[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

Other games thread.......Place to chat about games on TV not Knicks.
Author Thread
nixluva
Posts: 56258
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/5/2004
Member: #758
USA
12/21/2013  1:13 AM
tkf wrote:
nixluva wrote:Can't believe how much better the Lakers look than the Knicks. No PG's at all and they still look like a real team. You can see the ball and Player movement. They have Nick Young and Xavier Henry playing Point!!! Who knows how they'll do when they get this kid Kendall Marshall going. It's night and day from how the Knicks look. They're beating the TWolves right now 104-91 late in the 4th. They're doing it without Kobe, Nash, Blake and Farmer.

better coach, more talent, better younger talent, and gasol would be the best all around player on the knicks...
nick young provides the scoring when needed..

gasol two assist shy of a triple double..

lakers are .500 team after this win.

Knicks lead the league in Dumb Players and coaches!!! I think Woody just called another ISO Melo play! The Knick fans who think LA is gonna take Melo are nuts. Why would they want to change up from playing TEAM BB just to have Melo run ISO plays? They already have Kobe who dominates the ball. MDA prefers a team like this with unselfish players.

AUTOADVERT
tkf
Posts: 36487
Alba Posts: 6
Joined: 8/13/2001
Member: #87
12/21/2013  1:31 AM
nixluva wrote:
tkf wrote:
nixluva wrote:Can't believe how much better the Lakers look than the Knicks. No PG's at all and they still look like a real team. You can see the ball and Player movement. They have Nick Young and Xavier Henry playing Point!!! Who knows how they'll do when they get this kid Kendall Marshall going. It's night and day from how the Knicks look. They're beating the TWolves right now 104-91 late in the 4th. They're doing it without Kobe, Nash, Blake and Farmer.

better coach, more talent, better younger talent, and gasol would be the best all around player on the knicks...
nick young provides the scoring when needed..

gasol two assist shy of a triple double..

lakers are .500 team after this win.

Knicks lead the league in Dumb Players and coaches!!! I think Woody just called another ISO Melo play! The Knick fans who think LA is gonna take Melo are nuts. Why would they want to change up from playing TEAM BB just to have Melo run ISO plays? They already have Kobe who dominates the ball. MDA prefers a team like this with unselfish players.

that is another thing knicks fans don't consider.. MDA is the coach.. remember the last time he coached carmelo? didn't work out to well... the lakers are playing pretty good.. now they are not a contender by any stretch of the imagination, but if they keep winning a lot of those young players will become nice assets to move in the near future..

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
Nalod
Posts: 71546
Alba Posts: 155
Joined: 12/24/2003
Member: #508
USA
12/21/2013  2:01 AM
MDA is a great coach with little talent who gets them to play ball. Melo don't fit that style.

Its a players league.

nixluva
Posts: 56258
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/5/2004
Member: #758
USA
12/21/2013  2:13 AM
The thing is that with the Lakers the ball doesn't stick. Almost every one of their role players moves the ball and even tho Nick Young is about the most shot happy guy, but it's OK cuz he's aggressive and they need someone to have that kind of game. I've been watching the Lakers since last year and this is more of the kind of team MDA likes. You can see the ball and player movement. They share the ball and keep it moving, but in a productive way. Those kids can get out and run even tho they don't have a PG right now. It's very similar to the Team MDA had in NY before the Melo trade or when Melo was out and they had Linsanity going. No stars but lots of team work. Gasol complains, but he should realize this is a good situation for him if he buys in, which it seems he's doing now.
Nalod
Posts: 71546
Alba Posts: 155
Joined: 12/24/2003
Member: #508
USA
12/21/2013  11:50 AM
Nets digress and BroPez done for season!

Knicks/Nets seem to be stuck at the hip.

NY sports not good these days.

tkf
Posts: 36487
Alba Posts: 6
Joined: 8/13/2001
Member: #87
12/21/2013  12:33 PM
nixluva wrote:The thing is that with the Lakers the ball doesn't stick. Almost every one of their role players moves the ball and even tho Nick Young is about the most shot happy guy, but it's OK cuz he's aggressive and they need someone to have that kind of game. I've been watching the Lakers since last year and this is more of the kind of team MDA likes. You can see the ball and player movement. They share the ball and keep it moving, but in a productive way. Those kids can get out and run even tho they don't have a PG right now. It's very similar to the Team MDA had in NY before the Melo trade or when Melo was out and they had Linsanity going. No stars but lots of team work. Gasol complains, but he should realize this is a good situation for him if he buys in, which it seems he's doing now.


exactly and they get scoring when needed. knick young averages 15ppg but when needed he can get points in bunches, and it doesn't have to stifle the teamw offense.. something carmelo after soooooo many years in the league still doesn't get.... but if you listen to knick young, he is weird cat, his dress, style, but he is a well spoken and seemingly smart and pleasant dude... that stuff spreads throught the team.. he and gasol were having fun with each other on the court and that unity breeds success.... the lakers are fun to watch.... the ball moves, guys are getting shots and they are playing hard for dantoni..

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
tkf
Posts: 36487
Alba Posts: 6
Joined: 8/13/2001
Member: #87
12/21/2013  12:34 PM
Nalod wrote:Nets digress and BroPez done for season!

Knicks/Nets seem to be stuck at the hip.

NY sports not good these days.

the nets still have talent, pierce, garnett and JJ need to step it up now..

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
nixluva
Posts: 56258
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/5/2004
Member: #758
USA
12/21/2013  3:41 PM
tkf wrote:
nixluva wrote:The thing is that with the Lakers the ball doesn't stick. Almost every one of their role players moves the ball and even tho Nick Young is about the most shot happy guy, but it's OK cuz he's aggressive and they need someone to have that kind of game. I've been watching the Lakers since last year and this is more of the kind of team MDA likes. You can see the ball and player movement. They share the ball and keep it moving, but in a productive way. Those kids can get out and run even tho they don't have a PG right now. It's very similar to the Team MDA had in NY before the Melo trade or when Melo was out and they had Linsanity going. No stars but lots of team work. Gasol complains, but he should realize this is a good situation for him if he buys in, which it seems he's doing now.


exactly and they get scoring when needed. knick young averages 15ppg but when needed he can get points in bunches, and it doesn't have to stifle the teamw offense.. something carmelo after soooooo many years in the league still doesn't get.... but if you listen to knick young, he is weird cat, his dress, style, but he is a well spoken and seemingly smart and pleasant dude... that stuff spreads throught the team.. he and gasol were having fun with each other on the court and that unity breeds success.... the lakers are fun to watch.... the ball moves, guys are getting shots and they are playing hard for dantoni..

People thought I was wrong to blame Melo for doggin it and dragging the team down when he was playing for MDA. The Knicks Org never really supported MDA by giving him the kind of players he needed. For a while Walsh and MDA were on the way to putting a team together that could do that, but I think Dolan was never on board with that. Once they brought in Woody I knew the Nepotism fix was in. Now they've got Woody and Melo as they wanted and it's not working out.

Thing with Woody is that he's no better a defensive coach than MDA. He just talks about it more, but results wise he's really not that good. The real difference maker is having good defensive talent on your roster and a commitment to defend. The Knicks aren't really built to be a great defensive team. As we've said before they're an offensive team with a couple of defensive players. That means they better be able to score efficiently. Last year that happened but Woody was never really sold on that style. We got fooled into thinking he understood what was working, but the second he got a chance to go back to his ISO style he did.

tkf
Posts: 36487
Alba Posts: 6
Joined: 8/13/2001
Member: #87
12/21/2013  10:08 PM
nixluva wrote:
tkf wrote:
nixluva wrote:The thing is that with the Lakers the ball doesn't stick. Almost every one of their role players moves the ball and even tho Nick Young is about the most shot happy guy, but it's OK cuz he's aggressive and they need someone to have that kind of game. I've been watching the Lakers since last year and this is more of the kind of team MDA likes. You can see the ball and player movement. They share the ball and keep it moving, but in a productive way. Those kids can get out and run even tho they don't have a PG right now. It's very similar to the Team MDA had in NY before the Melo trade or when Melo was out and they had Linsanity going. No stars but lots of team work. Gasol complains, but he should realize this is a good situation for him if he buys in, which it seems he's doing now.


exactly and they get scoring when needed. knick young averages 15ppg but when needed he can get points in bunches, and it doesn't have to stifle the teamw offense.. something carmelo after soooooo many years in the league still doesn't get.... but if you listen to knick young, he is weird cat, his dress, style, but he is a well spoken and seemingly smart and pleasant dude... that stuff spreads throught the team.. he and gasol were having fun with each other on the court and that unity breeds success.... the lakers are fun to watch.... the ball moves, guys are getting shots and they are playing hard for dantoni..

People thought I was wrong to blame Melo for doggin it and dragging the team down when he was playing for MDA. The Knicks Org never really supported MDA by giving him the kind of players he needed. For a while Walsh and MDA were on the way to putting a team together that could do that, but I think Dolan was never on board with that. Once they brought in Woody I knew the Nepotism fix was in. Now they've got Woody and Melo as they wanted and it's not working out.

Thing with Woody is that he's no better a defensive coach than MDA. He just talks about it more, but results wise he's really not that good. The real difference maker is having good defensive talent on your roster and a commitment to defend. The Knicks aren't really built to be a great defensive team. As we've said before they're an offensive team with a couple of defensive players. That means they better be able to score efficiently. Last year that happened but Woody was never really sold on that style. We got fooled into thinking he understood what was working, but the second he got a chance to go back to his ISO style he did.

ahhh, I didn't think you were wrong, I was saying it all along, I lost all hope with carmelo when he sabotaged the team because he had issues with MDA..that was the point of no return with me for carmelo....

carmelo is an iso player that needs a lot of shots and he isn't efficient, doesn't defend and doesn't make anyone else better... time to bomb this joint...

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
CrushAlot
Posts: 59764
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 7/25/2003
Member: #452
USA
12/21/2013  11:08 PM
tkf wrote:
nixluva wrote:
tkf wrote:
nixluva wrote:The thing is that with the Lakers the ball doesn't stick. Almost every one of their role players moves the ball and even tho Nick Young is about the most shot happy guy, but it's OK cuz he's aggressive and they need someone to have that kind of game. I've been watching the Lakers since last year and this is more of the kind of team MDA likes. You can see the ball and player movement. They share the ball and keep it moving, but in a productive way. Those kids can get out and run even tho they don't have a PG right now. It's very similar to the Team MDA had in NY before the Melo trade or when Melo was out and they had Linsanity going. No stars but lots of team work. Gasol complains, but he should realize this is a good situation for him if he buys in, which it seems he's doing now.


exactly and they get scoring when needed. knick young averages 15ppg but when needed he can get points in bunches, and it doesn't have to stifle the teamw offense.. something carmelo after soooooo many years in the league still doesn't get.... but if you listen to knick young, he is weird cat, his dress, style, but he is a well spoken and seemingly smart and pleasant dude... that stuff spreads throught the team.. he and gasol were having fun with each other on the court and that unity breeds success.... the lakers are fun to watch.... the ball moves, guys are getting shots and they are playing hard for dantoni..

People thought I was wrong to blame Melo for doggin it and dragging the team down when he was playing for MDA. The Knicks Org never really supported MDA by giving him the kind of players he needed. For a while Walsh and MDA were on the way to putting a team together that could do that, but I think Dolan was never on board with that. Once they brought in Woody I knew the Nepotism fix was in. Now they've got Woody and Melo as they wanted and it's not working out.

Thing with Woody is that he's no better a defensive coach than MDA. He just talks about it more, but results wise he's really not that good. The real difference maker is having good defensive talent on your roster and a commitment to defend. The Knicks aren't really built to be a great defensive team. As we've said before they're an offensive team with a couple of defensive players. That means they better be able to score efficiently. Last year that happened but Woody was never really sold on that style. We got fooled into thinking he understood what was working, but the second he got a chance to go back to his ISO style he did.

ahhh, I didn't think you were wrong, I was saying it all along, I lost all hope with carmelo when he sabotaged the team because he had issues with MDA..that was the point of no return with me for carmelo....

carmelo is an iso player that needs a lot of shots and he isn't efficient, doesn't defend and doesn't make anyone else better... time to bomb this joint...

So you were on board with Melo initially? I thought once Gallo was moved you were done rooting for the Knicks.
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
nixluva
Posts: 56258
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/5/2004
Member: #758
USA
12/21/2013  11:18 PM
Kendall Marshall making debut. I'm curious to see how he plays. This is a tough situation to come into.
nixluva
Posts: 56258
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/5/2004
Member: #758
USA
12/21/2013  11:19 PM
Kendall just traveled.
nixluva
Posts: 56258
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/5/2004
Member: #758
USA
12/21/2013  11:22 PM
Kendall got stripped on a drive by Curry. He looks like a kid in his 1st NBA game. MDA is not yanking him.
nixluva
Posts: 56258
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/5/2004
Member: #758
USA
12/21/2013  11:24 PM
And he takes Kendall out. Not much of a splash but to be expected.
CrushAlot
Posts: 59764
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 7/25/2003
Member: #452
USA
12/21/2013  11:30 PM
Hill is looking great. Very active.
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
tkf
Posts: 36487
Alba Posts: 6
Joined: 8/13/2001
Member: #87
12/22/2013  12:09 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
tkf wrote:
nixluva wrote:
tkf wrote:
nixluva wrote:The thing is that with the Lakers the ball doesn't stick. Almost every one of their role players moves the ball and even tho Nick Young is about the most shot happy guy, but it's OK cuz he's aggressive and they need someone to have that kind of game. I've been watching the Lakers since last year and this is more of the kind of team MDA likes. You can see the ball and player movement. They share the ball and keep it moving, but in a productive way. Those kids can get out and run even tho they don't have a PG right now. It's very similar to the Team MDA had in NY before the Melo trade or when Melo was out and they had Linsanity going. No stars but lots of team work. Gasol complains, but he should realize this is a good situation for him if he buys in, which it seems he's doing now.


exactly and they get scoring when needed. knick young averages 15ppg but when needed he can get points in bunches, and it doesn't have to stifle the teamw offense.. something carmelo after soooooo many years in the league still doesn't get.... but if you listen to knick young, he is weird cat, his dress, style, but he is a well spoken and seemingly smart and pleasant dude... that stuff spreads throught the team.. he and gasol were having fun with each other on the court and that unity breeds success.... the lakers are fun to watch.... the ball moves, guys are getting shots and they are playing hard for dantoni..

People thought I was wrong to blame Melo for doggin it and dragging the team down when he was playing for MDA. The Knicks Org never really supported MDA by giving him the kind of players he needed. For a while Walsh and MDA were on the way to putting a team together that could do that, but I think Dolan was never on board with that. Once they brought in Woody I knew the Nepotism fix was in. Now they've got Woody and Melo as they wanted and it's not working out.

Thing with Woody is that he's no better a defensive coach than MDA. He just talks about it more, but results wise he's really not that good. The real difference maker is having good defensive talent on your roster and a commitment to defend. The Knicks aren't really built to be a great defensive team. As we've said before they're an offensive team with a couple of defensive players. That means they better be able to score efficiently. Last year that happened but Woody was never really sold on that style. We got fooled into thinking he understood what was working, but the second he got a chance to go back to his ISO style he did.

ahhh, I didn't think you were wrong, I was saying it all along, I lost all hope with carmelo when he sabotaged the team because he had issues with MDA..that was the point of no return with me for carmelo....

carmelo is an iso player that needs a lot of shots and he isn't efficient, doesn't defend and doesn't make anyone else better... time to bomb this joint...

So you were on board with Melo initially? I thought once Gallo was moved you were done rooting for the Knicks.

oh hell no, I was never on board, but I was coming to a point of acceptance as long as the douchebag behaved and helped us win.. but when he sabotaged the team, I could not even accept the fact that he was here... and never turned back.

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
tkf
Posts: 36487
Alba Posts: 6
Joined: 8/13/2001
Member: #87
12/22/2013  12:11 AM
Dj augustine in bulls win over the cavs... 18 points/ 5 rebounds/10 assists


Nah, we couldn't use him, as some around here said...... smh.....

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
nixluva
Posts: 56258
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/5/2004
Member: #758
USA
12/22/2013  12:17 AM
tkf wrote:Dj augustine in bulls win over the cavs... 18 points/ 5 rebounds/10 assists


Nah, we couldn't use him, as some around here said...... smh.....

You'll only frustrate yourself seeing other teams address their need at PG.

CrushAlot
Posts: 59764
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 7/25/2003
Member: #452
USA
12/22/2013  12:19 AM
tkf wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
tkf wrote:
nixluva wrote:
tkf wrote:
nixluva wrote:The thing is that with the Lakers the ball doesn't stick. Almost every one of their role players moves the ball and even tho Nick Young is about the most shot happy guy, but it's OK cuz he's aggressive and they need someone to have that kind of game. I've been watching the Lakers since last year and this is more of the kind of team MDA likes. You can see the ball and player movement. They share the ball and keep it moving, but in a productive way. Those kids can get out and run even tho they don't have a PG right now. It's very similar to the Team MDA had in NY before the Melo trade or when Melo was out and they had Linsanity going. No stars but lots of team work. Gasol complains, but he should realize this is a good situation for him if he buys in, which it seems he's doing now.


exactly and they get scoring when needed. knick young averages 15ppg but when needed he can get points in bunches, and it doesn't have to stifle the teamw offense.. something carmelo after soooooo many years in the league still doesn't get.... but if you listen to knick young, he is weird cat, his dress, style, but he is a well spoken and seemingly smart and pleasant dude... that stuff spreads throught the team.. he and gasol were having fun with each other on the court and that unity breeds success.... the lakers are fun to watch.... the ball moves, guys are getting shots and they are playing hard for dantoni..

People thought I was wrong to blame Melo for doggin it and dragging the team down when he was playing for MDA. The Knicks Org never really supported MDA by giving him the kind of players he needed. For a while Walsh and MDA were on the way to putting a team together that could do that, but I think Dolan was never on board with that. Once they brought in Woody I knew the Nepotism fix was in. Now they've got Woody and Melo as they wanted and it's not working out.

Thing with Woody is that he's no better a defensive coach than MDA. He just talks about it more, but results wise he's really not that good. The real difference maker is having good defensive talent on your roster and a commitment to defend. The Knicks aren't really built to be a great defensive team. As we've said before they're an offensive team with a couple of defensive players. That means they better be able to score efficiently. Last year that happened but Woody was never really sold on that style. We got fooled into thinking he understood what was working, but the second he got a chance to go back to his ISO style he did.

ahhh, I didn't think you were wrong, I was saying it all along, I lost all hope with carmelo when he sabotaged the team because he had issues with MDA..that was the point of no return with me for carmelo....

carmelo is an iso player that needs a lot of shots and he isn't efficient, doesn't defend and doesn't make anyone else better... time to bomb this joint...

So you were on board with Melo initially? I thought once Gallo was moved you were done rooting for the Knicks.

oh hell no, I was never on board, but I was coming to a point of acceptance as long as the douchebag behaved and helped us win.. but when he sabotaged the team, I could not even accept the fact that he was here... and never turned back.

When did he sabotage the team? If you said Grunwald sabotaged D'Antoni by not giving him a point guard I can see that. D'Antoni trying to force his system on a traditional roster with one of the best frontlines in the nba and losing at an incredible rate might have been a bit discouraging for guys playing on that team. Did he stop sabotaging the team later when the team went on that great run to make the playoffs and he got player of the month for April?
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
nixluva
Posts: 56258
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/5/2004
Member: #758
USA
12/22/2013  12:22 AM
Lakers having one of those Knicks 3rd quarters.
Other games thread.......Place to chat about games on TV not Knicks.

©2001-2025 ultimateknicks.comm All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.

Terms of Use and Privacy Policy