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sebstar
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12/17/2008  4:11 AM
I'm very proud of the team. These are the sort of losses we have to withstand as we watch our team grow and take next level steps. They're learning and adjusting. This team is going to be the shyt soon.

They went on a back-to-back and took it to arguably the best team in the league in their gym. They played their asses off. I have always been skeptical about good losses, but if that idea ever existed, this would be exhibit A.
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12/17/2008  4:53 AM
Posted by sebstar:

I'm very proud of the team. These are the sort of losses we have to withstand as we watch our team grow and take next level steps. They're learning and adjusting. This team is going to be the shyt soon.

They went on a back-to-back and took it to arguably the best team in the league in their gym. They played their asses off. I have always been skeptical about good losses, but if that idea ever existed, this would be exhibit A.

I think we all feel the same way....now the Knicks just gotta go out and beat teams they should beat....

I think we all are thinking above .500 ome time in january. Go knicks!!!
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12/17/2008  5:37 AM
"I told him he ran out of bullets," Bryant said of Robinson, who had 33 points a night after scoring 27 against the Suns. "He's a great young basketball player and works extremely hard and plays hard. I love the little fella, man, I do."
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12/17/2008  8:20 AM
Watched the whole game last night. Paying for it now.

The team played very hard and almost pulled out a victory against an elite team.

One thing I will say though. I can see why Harrington has been traded so many times, the dude is a black hole when he gets the ball. I've noticed this the past couple games, even when he was playing well and scoring a ton but once the ball goes into him, it never comes back out. At all.
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12/17/2008  8:29 AM
"It's a team that we have to think about how we match up with them, how we execute," he said, "whereas in the past you just go in there and take care of business and get out. But you got to really focus on what they're doing and what they've been doing. It's drastically different than we faced last year."

-Kobe Bryant

Unlike TMS, who claims Chandler was a non-factor, the defense played on Kobe was as good as any team is gunna get. The Mayor contested every shot except the breakaway. Non-factor? If that was the case D'Antoni would have benched him.

There is a reason the Lakers were booed at halftime. The Knicks played their collective azz off.

I ain't mad at 'em.
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12/17/2008  8:29 AM
Posted by sebstar:

I'm very proud of the team. These are the sort of losses we have to withstand as we watch our team grow and take next level steps. They're learning and adjusting. This team is going to be the shyt soon.

They went on a back-to-back and took it to arguably the best team in the league in their gym. They played their asses off. I have always been skeptical about good losses, but if that idea ever existed, this would be exhibit A.


+1!!!!

One day we will have a go to guy thats not 5-7!

And this team will learn to win.


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12/17/2008  8:41 AM
These past 2 games is the first time IN A LONG TIME where I wake up the next day not feeling too bad. These guys are really showing me something that I like, win or lose. Now on to Milwaukee, A GAME WE MUST WIN. We need to pay them back for 2 losses already this season. GO NY GO NY GO
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12/17/2008  10:57 AM
Posted by NYK3:

These past 2 games is the first time IN A LONG TIME where I wake up the next day not feeling too bad. These guys are really showing me something that I like, win or lose. Now on to Milwaukee, A GAME WE MUST WIN. We need to pay them back for 2 losses already this season. GO NY GO NY GO

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12/17/2008  11:15 AM
About Duhon:

Lately he has looked less in control of this team. He had another solid game last night but I was surprised that he didn't look in charge of the team at that time when order was so needed. We were out of control in that fourth quarter on many occasions and it certainly hurt us. Many plays could've been organized differently and maybe the outcome would've changed. I love how he has run the Knicks offense all season, so I would like to see that when the game is on the line.

About Harrington:

The man is amazing. He loves being a Knick and that dunk after Kobe's is a top play of our season. But the man can sometimes turn into a black hole and in crunch time thats the worst that can happen. I know he wants to be the go-to guy of this team but he won't help any way if he takes pressured and bad shots. If the system makes this team so successful the least you can do is go by it when possessions are vital. I can give him a try or two in iso, but if that didn't work on the prior possession, gun the game plan the next one. He has to make better decisions in the fourth quarter.

About Chandler:

The guy was amazing for us. He locked down Kobe in an impressive way. For practically a rookie, to get such a defensive game from him was great. That said, he has to make better decisions in the game. Many of his shots were ill-advised and horrible. He is trying to be an H2O out there coming of screens and shooting the jumper and he doesn't have that kind of jumper. And he has to keep his head in the game because he made many careless things out there that resulted in many turnovers and airballs. No problem with that, since he is a rookie and its amazing the way he has developed so far, But since he is THAT good, he has to start getting his game to the next level and cut off those rookie mistakes.

About Defense:

Im getting so tired of people talking about Mike D'Antoni's game plan as a defense-less one. Its obvious defense is a priority for him and he is making them look very solid out there on D. Whats the difference from the beginning of the year to now? That with Zach and Craw out and Harrington in, we got rid of two great liabilities on D for a guy that works extremely hard on it. And TT helps when he wants to. But whats the point? That defense in this system will look good if it has the right defensive players. Its obvious, but not to all the people that keep crying Coach doesn't care for D. If we keep getting players that are solid on defense, out overall D will keep looking better and better. And right now it looks very good.







[Edited by - knicksfan on 12-17-2008 11:15 AM]
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12/17/2008  11:17 AM
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12/17/2008  11:18 AM
Posted by Knicksfan:
Posted by NYK3:

These past 2 games is the first time IN A LONG TIME where I wake up the next day not feeling too bad. These guys are really showing me something that I like, win or lose. Now on to Milwaukee, A GAME WE MUST WIN. We need to pay them back for 2 losses already this season. GO NY GO NY GO

+1





definately a must win...the Bucks still give the Knicks problems...but after the last two games? No way the Knicks let the Bucks beat them....I will be seriously hurt if they lose.
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12/17/2008  11:38 AM
Posted by K22:

You love the Pringles smilie, don't you?



I guess it's true. Once you pop, you just can't stop.

DEFINITELY!!!!!!!!





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12/17/2008  4:05 PM
How many got the spread right on the gamepicker?

Surprisingly I did




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12/17/2008  6:18 PM
Posted by Knicksfan:

How many got the spread right on the gamepicker?

Surprisingly I did





I have never picked the spread in gamepicker. I am a gamepicker loser
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12/17/2008  8:08 PM
anyone who thinks Wilson Chandler "locked down" Kobe Bryant last night didn't watch the game... u don't go 12-22 while scoring 28 points & hit the big shots down the stretch of a game when you're being "locked down" by your defender... please... Wilson Chandler was a non factor plain & simple... other than blocking a couple shots in the lane he was invisible... i know "The Answer Man" likes to claim that "The Mayor" is the best NBA player of alltime but contrary to his silly belief it's actually OK to criticize Knicks players when they're worthy of criticism, & last night's 8 pt. 2 rebound performance on 3 of 10 shooting in 40 minutes while allowing your man to put up big numbers is not what you call stepping up your game & being a factor... u don't see me going on ridiculous rants criticizing players after having a good game, i call them like i see them... i like Wilson Chandler & Al Harrington but last night they both had bad games & were a big part of the reason why they lost.
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12/17/2008  9:15 PM
5. Regarding the No. 1 scorer and No. 1 player, Bryant’s shot is back. Told ya so. The largely unknown Wilson Chandler is one heck of a defender and contested Bryant’s shots better than most designated Kobe-stoppers have. Bryant still owned the second half with 8-of-11 shooting for 17 points and shot 54.5 percent for the game – only the second time in the past seven games he has made at least half his shots.

Number 5 of the ten things that Knicks brought out of the Lakers.

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/game-lakers-odom-2258935-jackson-bryant

“I take my hat off to our team tonight,” Robinson said. “We played well. Will (Chandler) did a phenomenal job on Kobe. Our team’s getting better and better each day, and that’s something that we can look forward to. The team is just buckling down, playing great defense and getting stops. We’re going to score a lot of points, but it’s all about stopping other teams.”

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/28271985/

Wilson Chandler, in his second year in the league, played admirable defense on Kobe Bryant, the reigning most valuable player. Bryant finished with 28 points but did not dominate. Nate Robinson hit one big shot after another and was 12-for-12 from the free-throw line, scoring a game-high 33 points.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/17/sports/basketball/17knicks.html




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12/17/2008  9:20 PM
it's a good thing Wilson locked down Kobe last night otherwise he woulda went off for 60 on 100% shooting & we lose by a lot... my bad... i hope he can continue locking down guys like that for the rest of the year & only be a -5 on the court, cuz that's the way you win championships.
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12/17/2008  9:28 PM
Posted by TMS:

it's a good thing Wilson locked down Kobe last night otherwise he woulda went off for 60 on 100% shooting & we lose by a lot... my bad... i hope he can continue locking down guys like that for the rest of the year & only be a -5 on the court, cuz that's the way you win championships.

Maybe, you never met this guy Kobe before but he is like the reigning MVP of the NBA. He has been known to score a lot. I hear a tale that he once put up something like 81 points in a game. But yeah Wilson should have done more. He could have punched him in the face to stop him from shooting from outside. By the way how many layups or dunks did Kobe get last night. How many free throws did he shoot?



[Edited by - pharzeone on 12-17-2008 9:30 PM]
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12/17/2008  10:47 PM
The Answer Man Is No DA But He Defends The Mayor Like a Pit Bull

TMS - i know "The Answer Man" likes to claim that "The Mayor" is the best NBA player of alltime

AM. You miss the point Scrooge... er... TMS. I am a staunch supporter of The Mayor and don't mind reminding you of it. That will not change, so get over it. Best player of all time? Hardly. That was Pearl Washington.

TMS - it's actually OK to criticize Knicks players when they're worthy of criticism, & last night's 8 pt. 2 rebound performance on 3 of 10 shooting in 40 minutes while allowing your man to put up big numbers (28) is not what you call stepping up your game & being a factor

AM. Newsflash, 28 points is not big numbers for Kobe. Try 81. Kobe found his groove in the second half but had a hand in his face the entire night. You want to knock a player for extending the extra effort on defense? Cool. His offense suffered. Big deal You do other things in a team context. Effectiveness not simply measured in the scoring stats.

TMS - i like Wilson Chandler & Al Harrington but last night they both had bad games & were a big part of the reason why they lost.

AM - you win as a team, you lose as a team. Picking on two players you might as well be picking boogers. Hell, blame Marbury for being a distraction. Second guess D'Antoni for taking out Richardson... or leaving the "ineffective" (in your opinion) Chandler in for too long.

I ain't mad at any of the Knicks after an outstanding effort last night on the road.
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12/17/2008  10:50 PM
Posted by TMS:

anyone who thinks Wilson Chandler "locked down" Kobe Bryant last night didn't watch the game... u don't go 12-22 while scoring 28 points & hit the big shots down the stretch of a game when you're being "locked down" by your defender... please... Wilson Chandler was a non factor plain & simple... other than blocking a couple shots in the lane he was invisible... i know "The Answer Man" likes to claim that "The Mayor" is the best NBA player of alltime but contrary to his silly belief it's actually OK to criticize Knicks players when they're worthy of criticism, & last night's 8 pt. 2 rebound performance on 3 of 10 shooting in 40 minutes while allowing your man to put up big numbers is not what you call stepping up your game & being a factor... u don't see me going on ridiculous rants criticizing players after having a good game, i call them like i see them... i like Wilson Chandler & Al Harrington but last night they both had bad games & were a big part of the reason why they lost.

I thought Wilson did a great job on Kobe. Those rainbow shots he made were MVP money shots. Tough. Chandler made him work. Kobe usually eats up rookie-like defenders and didn't with Wilson.
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