BlueKnickers wrote:

ToddTT wrote:JB was just as responsible for KAT fouling out as KAT.

KAT was a turnstile on defense tonight. It's not about one play.

I saw guys making shots in Mikal face all night and torching Jalen/Jose - didn't notice Kat as much but I'm sure he sucked as well.

I will say though that Kat at least hits the boards and will pass - Jalen chucking 30 something shots and dominating ball.

SergioNYK wrote:Brutal loss and it kind of shows why we aren't going to reach expectations this season and likely get sent home early in the playoffs. We do not have good enough consistent defense or leadership to get to the finals as of right now. Maybe it can change but I don't see it. This team is flawed and cannot be trusted.

Brunson scored 40 but he was awful in the 4th and missed his last 4 or 5 shots. And he was embarrassing on defense. The entire team was so not blaming it all on him but it starts with him and if he takes games off on defense, the team usually follows. And Nembhard has his number. He always seems to outplay him when it matters.

Same bs from KAT. I give him credit for making those FTs at the end cause that's not easy to do but the offensive fouls and lapses on defense are frustrating.

Alvarado got destroyed by McConnell. Hukporti was really bad too. Leon should add a 3rd veteran Center with that 15th spot.

We are lucky the Hicks have the worst record in the East and won't be in the playoffs cause that team just owns us and would send us home again. But with Haliburton coming back and a high pick plus adding Zubac, they are going to keep being our daddy for the foreseeable future so get used to it.

This is what I saw as well - +1.

LivingLegend wrote:Can Brunson please pass the ball a few times to Kat --- so tired of him just ignoring Kat for anything other than a pick to free himself.

Also Brunson/Bridges sucked on D tonight.

Plus Kat an idiot.

Jose/Mo didn't look so hot either. Jose got schooled by both TJ and Nembhart.

Plus Jackson once again scrub of the night -- Pacers completely suck but world beaters against Knicks. We chase their ball movement around like idiots rather than just manning up and or switching -- running around like chickens with heads chopped off.

DISGUSTING LOSS - one of worst of season.

Let's call it for what it is: Brunson is a ball hog.

The only teams that win championship with so much focus on one player do it with enormous talents that make brilliant passes in crunch time.

Jordan would go ISO to win games, but then he'd burn you in the clutch with a great pass to an open teammate.

I don't really feel that Brunson will ever pass the ball in those situations. He's taking that shot.

I was explaining today to someone why Clyde is one of the all-time greats and why'd you want the ball in his hands as a closer instead of Brunson (given the choice as a hypothetical of course).

The reason is that when a defender saw Clyde coming towards them as he brought the ball up the court with the clock running out they had absolutely no idea if Clyde would take the shot himself or find the open man to take the last shot. This creates an imbalance for the defender that a great player exploints.

But when a defender sees Brunson in that situation they know he's shooting it. Brunson happens to be such an elite ISO player it often works for him, but all the same the defense is keyed on him and him only. It is why more teams are swarming Brunson because he can be very predictable even when he's difficult to guard.

There needs to be more versatility to his game as the lead PG. Our offense is not getting the most out of our players with so much ISO. I know Brown started out wanting to correct that and for a while we were moving and grooving, but over the course of this season it is going back to more ISO Brunson and less team cohesion on offense.

You won't win a ring doing that.

martin wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:Sometimes I hate basketball.

Feels like a pointless addiction on nights like this.

Best team in like 25 years too, which is a head scratcher to me. I should be pumped and I’m not

Because on most nights they don’t play like the team you grew up loving. Well, at least it’s one of my problems with them: the lack of a consistent defensive identity that carries from game to game. Between KAT and Mikal, I think one or both will probably be gone in the offseason.

The Knicks? I keep saying it since the last few seasons and unfortunately that hasn’t changed: we are a team with a very poor attention span, very undisciplined and very inconsistent. Games like these show we are an immature team with the ability to concentrate for a few games and then revert back to our problems. How can it be multiple seasons where we just don’t consistently know how to react to aggression and don’t carry our defense to every game? Shots may be falling or not, but defense should always be there and it honestly starts with motivation.

If this team played consistent defense, they would truly be an elite team, and not the inconsistent one they are. This team just doesn’t change.

IDK how even Jordyn Woods doesn't cringe watching KAT pouting out there, even Breen sounds fed up with it. We have the best coaches record in challenges, yet we never challenge KAT's fouls, that should tell KAT something... but he's a buffoon so he rather just pout and throw tantrums and go around laughing. he looks absolutely ridiculous. I have so much 2nd hand embarrassment watching him.

LivingLegend wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:

ToddTT wrote:JB was just as responsible for KAT fouling out as KAT.

KAT was a turnstile on defense tonight. It's not about one play.

I saw guys making shots in Mikal face all night and torching Jalen/Jose - didn't notice Kat as much but I'm sure he sucked as well.

I will say though that Kat at least hits the boards and will pass - Jalen chucking 30 something shots and dominating ball.

We have a good team.
But as long as I have waited, having a good team is not good enough.
Don’t see winning a chip when the player you count on the most and shoots the majority of the shots is a little over 6 feet tall. Great player but top teams have several guys to shut that down.

We lost that game more than they won it.

Hoping we get our act together at the right time