martin wrote:

Nalod wrote:Martin,

New york city has 2.1 Million Jews. That is 10% of the worlds population!
Mandami is the cheif executive. We not talking about his effect on Israel but his effect NYC citizens.
We can be coy about it but folks like to be think their elected officials are with them. This is a first for many.
It should not matter, but at the same time it does. Its complicated.

It is MaMdami, right?

Asking a local politician to nuance foreign affairs does seem complicated, nearly as complicated as the situation and history itself.

I know little about Mamdami. In this regard, it does seem like the choice was between (and forgive me if I get this phrasing incorrect) someone who does not have agreement with a community at large. Even in disagreement, it does seem like Mamdami is slightly outside the normal political class; honest may not be the correct description, but at least he is forthcoming about his position. He is workable. Time will certainly tell. OR, vote for a scumbag who has lied, treated women incredibly poorly, and otherwise deserved the media lashing that he gets. I feel like we have been here before.

Meanwhile, masked armed forces are literally taking citizens off the streets at gunpoint if you have a certain look.

Nalod, help me understand this. The last 2 candidates were Cuomo and Mamdami. How did each pledge to help the 2.1 Million Jews in NYC, 10% of the worlds population, and make their lives better? What are the big glossy bullet points?

Is it not important how the Mayor postures himself in regard to protecting a group of people who are less than 2% of the nations population and yet receive over 50% of hate crimes reported? Islamphobia is a real thing and right or wrong politicians have to answer to their views or state them.
Publically traded companies have to answer for theirs to their employees. People want to know their leaders have their back. Human nature.

martin wrote:

Nalod wrote:

martin wrote:

Nalod wrote:Martin,

New york city has 2.1 Million Jews. That is 10% of the worlds population!
Mandami is the cheif executive. We not talking about his effect on Israel but his effect NYC citizens.
We can be coy about it but folks like to be think their elected officials are with them. This is a first for many.
It should not matter, but at the same time it does. Its complicated.

It is MaMdami, right?

Asking a local politician to nuance foreign affairs does seem complicated, nearly as complicated as the situation and history itself.

I know little about Mamdami. In this regard, it does seem like the choice was between (and forgive me if I get this phrasing incorrect) someone who does not have agreement with a community at large. Even in disagreement, it does seem like Mamdami is slightly outside the normal political class; honest may not be the correct description, but at least he is forthcoming about his position. He is workable. Time will certainly tell. OR, vote for a scumbag who has lied, treated women incredibly poorly, and otherwise deserved the media lashing that he gets. I feel like we have been here before.

Meanwhile, masked armed forces are literally taking citizens off the streets at gunpoint if you have a certain look.

Nalod, help me understand this. The last 2 candidates were Cuomo and Mamdami. How did each pledge to help the 2.1 Million Jews in NYC, 10% of the worlds population, and make their lives better? What are the big glossy bullet points?

Is it not important how the Mayor postures himself in regard to protecting a group of people who are less than 2% of the nations population and yet receive over 50% of hate crimes reported? Islamphobia is a real thing and right or wrong politicians have to answer to their views or state them.
Publically traded companies have to answer for theirs to their employees. People want to know their leaders have their back. Human nature.

It is. I'll ask it again: What were the policies of each candidate in that regard for the NYC populations? I don't know them. What separated Cuomo from Mamdami and what is the current policy of Adams to reflect against?

I don't know.
Im reacting to the reality that is presented as Mandami is the new mayor and answering why people would be concerned.
I would guess Cuomo pandered to islamicphobic worries to gain votes.
Im addressing why Jewish population might be concerned.

Nalod wrote:Since 2001, Palestinian militants have launched tens of thousands of rocket and mortar attacks on Israel from the Gaza Strip as part of the continuing Israeli–Palestinian conflict. The attacks, widely condemned for targeting civilians, have been described as terrorism by the United Nations, the European Union, and Israeli officials, and are defined as war crimes by human rights groups Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch. The international community considers indiscriminate attacks on civilian targets to be illegal under international law. Palestinian militants say rocket attacks are a response to Israel's blockade of Gaza, but the Palestinian Authority has condemned them and says rocket attacks undermine peace.

The blockade is to thwart the importation of guns and rockets given by Iran to both Hamas and Hezbolah in Lebanon.
The Palestinian refugees who live in Gaza, as others left Isreal decades ago thinking they would return and isreal/jewish population would be "driven into the sea". Then and now they are victims of failed and currpt regimes who use women and childrens as shields while they sling rockets into civilian territories.
Many tunnels dug were found over years. Some by schools as plans were to murder children. Some are wide enough to drive vehicles thru and miles long. Those are expensive BTW. Money not spend on its people.

Im not saying isreael as a gov't has been totally pure. its policy of expansion into territories on the West bank has not been always honest.

Know your history/timeline before pointing and accpeting rehtoric about who is the rightful owners of the lands.

The corrupt regimes that "govern" as a sovereign entitty called Hammas has opressed its people and sees them as pawns to sacrifice for the destruction of Israel an its population.

The scorecard of Gazan's killed is awful but understand they launch rockets and house its military leaders in hospitals and amung civilians knowing Isreael will at exhaust all other efforts but then be forced to attack them. We all love the underdog and for decades Israel, who gained its independance in 1947 (remember why?) in a land with no formal government from british occupation and drew the ire of the arab world. No Oil, no natural resources, and no agri base yet. Petty tribal jelousey in the Arab world blame isreael and the jews for many of their own failures to provide for its people. This has more or less been eliminated over time. Only Iran reamains the last aggressor. Israel has made its peace with its neighbors who are focused on doing other things in modern times.

As yourselves what would be gained from Israel who won those lands in wars they did not start and gave back territories in the name of peace? There is no oil. Then look at what Iran has installed in Lebanon and Gaza and the activities there? How they treat women and children? Look at the money to dig tunnels and buy missiles vs. spending on health care/education/economic expansion and the ask WTF? Look at peace treaties and economic trade with others. Look at Hamas leders living abroad in luxury telling the NY Times they see the sacrifice of 60,000 civilians as an accpetable price to get the message out. What message? That israel thwarts their freedom becuse they dig tunnels and launch rockets? How does Israel trust a neighbor whose charter includes its death and destruction?

The objective of the ongoing bombardment and blockade is to forcibly remove any and all remaining Palestinian civilians from Gaza so the Likud government of Israel can officially annex it just like they have done with the West Bank. The October 7th attack is being used as a pretext to do this. Stick to writing 100 page essays about how Elf just needs a shot.

ESOMKnicks wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

The govt run grocery store idea is very realistic, practical and already exists throughout the country and really world since DECA operates in almost all 50 states, Puerto Rico as well as Germany and Japan.

It gets $1.6bn in subsidies annually. If a supermarket chain lost $1.6bn every year, it would be out of business soon enough. Even if it were not run for profit.

Practical my ass.

For 235 stores run throughout the world. Mamdani’s proposal probably will have maybe 5 throughout the poorest sections of the city. It won’t cost but a tiny fraction of what the DOD spends on administering 235 commissaries.

Philc1 wrote:

Nalod wrote:Since 2001, Palestinian militants have launched tens of thousands of rocket and mortar attacks on Israel from the Gaza Strip as part of the continuing Israeli–Palestinian conflict. The attacks, widely condemned for targeting civilians, have been described as terrorism by the United Nations, the European Union, and Israeli officials, and are defined as war crimes by human rights groups Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch. The international community considers indiscriminate attacks on civilian targets to be illegal under international law. Palestinian militants say rocket attacks are a response to Israel's blockade of Gaza, but the Palestinian Authority has condemned them and says rocket attacks undermine peace.

The blockade is to thwart the importation of guns and rockets given by Iran to both Hamas and Hezbolah in Lebanon.
The Palestinian refugees who live in Gaza, as others left Isreal decades ago thinking they would return and isreal/jewish population would be "driven into the sea". Then and now they are victims of failed and currpt regimes who use women and childrens as shields while they sling rockets into civilian territories.
Many tunnels dug were found over years. Some by schools as plans were to murder children. Some are wide enough to drive vehicles thru and miles long. Those are expensive BTW. Money not spend on its people.

Im not saying isreael as a gov't has been totally pure. its policy of expansion into territories on the West bank has not been always honest.

Know your history/timeline before pointing and accpeting rehtoric about who is the rightful owners of the lands.

The corrupt regimes that "govern" as a sovereign entitty called Hammas has opressed its people and sees them as pawns to sacrifice for the destruction of Israel an its population.

The scorecard of Gazan's killed is awful but understand they launch rockets and house its military leaders in hospitals and amung civilians knowing Isreael will at exhaust all other efforts but then be forced to attack them. We all love the underdog and for decades Israel, who gained its independance in 1947 (remember why?) in a land with no formal government from british occupation and drew the ire of the arab world. No Oil, no natural resources, and no agri base yet. Petty tribal jelousey in the Arab world blame isreael and the jews for many of their own failures to provide for its people. This has more or less been eliminated over time. Only Iran reamains the last aggressor. Israel has made its peace with its neighbors who are focused on doing other things in modern times.

As yourselves what would be gained from Israel who won those lands in wars they did not start and gave back territories in the name of peace? There is no oil. Then look at what Iran has installed in Lebanon and Gaza and the activities there? How they treat women and children? Look at the money to dig tunnels and buy missiles vs. spending on health care/education/economic expansion and the ask WTF? Look at peace treaties and economic trade with others. Look at Hamas leders living abroad in luxury telling the NY Times they see the sacrifice of 60,000 civilians as an accpetable price to get the message out. What message? That israel thwarts their freedom becuse they dig tunnels and launch rockets? How does Israel trust a neighbor whose charter includes its death and destruction?

The objective of the ongoing bombardment and blockade is to forcibly remove any and all remaining Palestinian civilians from Gaza so the Likud government of Israel can officially annex it just like they have done with the West Bank. The October 7th attack is being used as a pretext to do this. Stick to writing 100 page essays about how Elf just needs a shot.

There exists 2mm civilians. Egypt won't take them. Not even now. WHere do they go?
do you understand the history of the piece of land? Look at a map? The political history of its elections and the ramifications the last 30 years that lead to that? Your comment is not rooted in any accurate context.

Philc1 wrote:

ESOMKnicks wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

The govt run grocery store idea is very realistic, practical and already exists throughout the country and really world since DECA operates in almost all 50 states, Puerto Rico as well as Germany and Japan.

It gets $1.6bn in subsidies annually. If a supermarket chain lost $1.6bn every year, it would be out of business soon enough. Even if it were not run for profit.

Practical my ass.

For 235 stores run throughout the world. Mamdani’s proposal probably will have maybe 5 throughout the poorest sections of the city. It won’t cost but a tiny fraction of what the DOD spends on administering 235 commissaries.

On that scale, each locaton would lose about 7mil annually. Do you think there might be more effeciant way to use 35 million dollars? (Thats 7mm x the 5 stores) And lets consider most of locations are on federal military bases around the world so we don't factor in rent?

How many people we talking about vs those DECA stores?

Dude, your not hitting on what a "TINY FRACTION" really is. Thats a lot of money wasted that could go to issuing more assistnce via cards.

BTW, as bad as Elf's shooting percentage you might want to look in the mirror and consider how many of you quips miss the mark.