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HofstraBBall
Posts: 27987 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/21/2015 Member: #6192 |
7/3/2025 12:18 AM
martin wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:martin wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:martin wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Well , my other theory in which I predicted Randle would be traded back to the Knicks fell through. So…. So if they insist on a move to keep the “Brunson connection “ happy, is that whats best for the team? For the new coach? As for conspiracy theories, isn’t that what all fan opinions basically are? Does it really matter? 'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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martin
Posts: 76215 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
7/3/2025 8:31 AM
HofstraBBall wrote:martin wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:martin wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:martin wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: You were the one who brought this up as a possibility, so maybe you need to substantiate it. I think it has nothing to do with appeasing Brunson. Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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newyorknewyork
Posts: 30117 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #541 |
7/3/2025 8:48 AM
Pretty wild that mud is getting slung at towards Brunson for the Thibs firing. We finally get a PG that can lead us to 47-50-50 win seasons, & our first ECC run since 1999. Not to mention, takes a pay cut to add more talent to push for a chip.
Meanwhile there is no indication that Brunson wanted Thibs gone at all. I mean why would he. Thibs gave Brunson carte blanche. Brunson also parroted everything Thibs would say which had Josh Hart poking fun at him for in the past. Why would "the Brunson(s)" look to separate from this clearly favorable situation for them? If it came down to a disgruntled player. Mikal Bridges would probably be the top of the list in players that may have pushed for Thibs to be removed. If were all being real though. The moment we traded for KAT we knew the pairing wasn't ideal. Thibs ideally wants a defensive anchor big like Jakeem Noah or IHart/Mitch. As projected we would need to eventually make a decision on who to move forward with between them. Lastly if the goal was purely to allow "the Brunson's" to run the show but maneuver away from Thibs since the other players aren't with the vibes. Johnny Bryant would have been probably the easiest option for them to bring in and "control". Why risk bringing in an outside like Mike Brown? Doesn't add up. https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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Nalod
Posts: 71155 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
7/3/2025 9:04 AM
It's been over 10 years since the McKinsey consulting came in and they attempted to run the team by accountants.
The resulting action from a FO standpoint was Grunwald was fired in October (who does that?) and Mills was hired. I don't consider this a bad idea as Mills was a super intelligent executive but 6 months in Dolan hired PhilJax and moved Mills down a notch. Let's visit the moment as fans were protesting for Dolan to fire the team outside the garden. This build up was after the Isiah era of disaster and Mills hardly had time to make a change. Isiah had depleted the draft picks and constructed an epic failed salary structure. Stay with me here......... Dolan needed a starphuch and Phil was not a bad idea. Stay with me.......Remember we had Melo and little else....... Stay with me here.......It was a good idea but Phil could not execute his triangle religion. He was hired to get the team into middle pack status and build on it. He only had two 1st round picks. KP and Frank. He was fired for wanting to trade KP at the peak of his Unicorn potential. While he drafted him as a 4th pick after KAT, D'angelo Russel and Okafor went, it was a not brainer for him to take him but he thought the lack of lower body strength he'd not be durable. Spot on. Stay with me.......k Phil wanted Steve Kerr. Great ideal. It would not have worked here but it was a good call. Fisher? Proved to be a bad choice but at the time he looked like the next fresh face and understood the Triangle. This was the guy that game up big money at Utah so he could move his family back to LA so his daughter could have as special doctors care. C'maon, y'all remember that! Problem was a few years later he preferred some other women's "Triangle" and left his wife and kids behind. As well as his duties as a coach. He was not ready to be a full time HC. Good idea, bad execution! Phil proved to be low energy and was rightfully relieved. Mills was a good trooper and given a chance. All he while we did not starphuch our picks into tired used up players. Mills signed Scott Perry and they paved a nice path that Leon was able to use. Mills was let go because he might have been tempted to make moves to save his job and deviate form the plan. Don't trade picks yet!! Recall Scott Layden did similar. We had to suck and let contracts run out. Isiah instead leveraged those contracts for worse ones and used picks to build an awful situation. First thing he does was trade for Marbury. Layden was given the task of trading A worn out Ewing that had a few years left on that deal. Dolan now understands Starphuching does not work. Knicks are relevant by being patient. |
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martin
Posts: 76215 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
7/3/2025 9:45 AM
Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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ramtour420
Posts: 26279 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 3/19/2007 Member: #1388 Russian Federation |
7/3/2025 10:08 AM LAST EDITED: 7/3/2025 10:22 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:I feel like he's the same guy as Thibs, so this feels like change for the sake of change He has had a number one offense in this league with an all star big man and an all star PG. Something that Thibs wasn't able to do. Not the same guy Everything you have ever wanted is on the other side of fear- George Adair
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fishmike
Posts: 53828 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
7/3/2025 10:13 AM
joec32033 wrote:fishmike wrote:Has Mike Brown ever won a playoff series? Arent all his wins with Lebron teams? The perception I am getting is from Kings fans and folks who have seen him coach up close. The only thing Brown brings is that he's not Thibs. That's literally it. Offense? He's simply bad without a "guru" assistant. His rotations are set in stone and his adjustments are not exisitant. He's a players coach who's MO is to empower his guys to succeed or fail. Literally just like Thibs. "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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fishmike
Posts: 53828 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
7/3/2025 10:18 AM
ramtour420 wrote:how did that team do in the post season? Brown has never won a post season series without Lebron. Btw he coached Lebron 5 years. He averaged 42mpg, 41mpg, 40mpg, 37mpg and 39mpg.SupremeCommander wrote:I feel like he's the same guy as Thibs, so this feels like change for the sake of change Thibs has never played a guy more than Mike Brown played Lebron. Legit LOL at "#1 offense" we can hang that in the rafters "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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fishmike
Posts: 53828 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
7/3/2025 10:20 AM
Uptown wrote:prolly cause Thibs is betterSupremeCommander wrote:I feel like he's the same guy as Thibs, so this feels like change for the sake of change "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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GustavBahler
Posts: 42801 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
7/3/2025 10:21 AM
Im getting old. Forgot Mike Brown wasnt coaching the 16' Cavs, conflated his earlier stint with Cleveland. Yikes.
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GustavBahler
Posts: 42801 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
7/3/2025 10:34 AM
Brown is coming in knowing what got Thibs fired. He's shown he can focus on either side of the ball. I will be very suprised if our bench plays the fewest minutes in the league again. Surprised if our recent picks are an afterthought in the offense.
Just by virtue of not playing our starters more minutes than any other team in 30 plus years will help. Using the bench which was better than the amount of PT they actually got, will help. They may have some similarities in coaching style. Doesnt mean Brown will ignore how Thibs coached last season, and not alter his game plan accordingly. You know what they say about trying the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. I dont think Brown is crazy enough to make the mistakes that got Thibs fired. |
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Rookie
Posts: 27022 Alba Posts: 28 Joined: 10/15/2008 Member: #2274 |
7/3/2025 10:42 AM
The FO is going to look like fools if Bridges declines an extension and becomes a FA. It did’t look like Bridges liked his role with a Thibs coached team. He’s going to be looking for his vet max contract and he had a down year under Thibs. Somebody was whining about they didn’t know what their role was. Bridges accepting less money by extending is critical to our cap math. Saying the best thing about Mike Brown is that he is not Thibs is very relevant
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Rookie
Posts: 27022 Alba Posts: 28 Joined: 10/15/2008 Member: #2274 |
7/3/2025 10:46 AM
The numbers
Mikal Bridges is eligible for a contract extension with the New York Knicks this offseason, with a maximum of a four-year, $156 million deal. However, reports suggest he may defer signing an extension until next summer to potentially earn a larger contract then, possibly even a max deal worth $296 million. The Knicks acquired Bridges in a trade last summer and are reportedly keen on keeping him long-term. |
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newyorknewyork
Posts: 30117 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #541 |
7/3/2025 10:47 AM
Imo Mike Brown is safe and experienced. So the team should have relative success given the amount of talent on it. The question is more so. Will Brown be the type of X factor in the playoffs that will outcoach/maneuver our opponent(s) to get us over the top to the chip?
I guess time will tell. Nabbing elite assistant coaches will def help the process though if that is to be pulled off in general. https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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HofstraBBall
Posts: 27987 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/21/2015 Member: #6192 |
7/3/2025 11:36 AM LAST EDITED: 7/3/2025 11:47 AM
martin wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:martin wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:martin wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:martin wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Think that’s what is behind collaborative narrative in Brown hiring. So valid question. Did adding/keeping Rick benefit the team? Maybe. 'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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