VDesai wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

VDesai wrote:Fact is Memphis front office overreacted to a season where the starting lineup basically missed the whole year - made too many changes and took away the reins from Jenkins who had shown he deserved their trust. Maybe we made the same mistake with Thibs. Who knows. In general I think coaching changes are overreactive when you fire a cosch with a winning track record.

I think Kleiman was angry at Jenkins for not playing Edey more and he wanted a more traditional coach like Iasalo to run Edey more. Maybe validate the draft position they used in him. The defense was suffering.

I like Edey and I think he was being underrated pre-dradt, but he never made sense on Memphis roster with their core. Strange move by them.

Jenkins comes from the San Antonio/Pop school. You have a lot of strong coaches coming out of there - Budenholzer, Udoka, Hardy, Borrego, even Mike Brown. Kerr also heavily influenced by Pop with 5 years playing for him.

Jenkins helped Bud turn the Hawks around and followed him to Milwaukee for that 60 win season.

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Mavericks want draft picks. I like Kidd a lot for our vacancy but I’m not giving up future draft picks

First of you don't know what they want besides precedence but if two future 2nd round picks are the price and this is the guy then you do it.
Nobody wants to give up picks.
Given your self proclaimed clairvoyance perhaps you can describe who is your choice and why that person ascends above the price for Kidd?
Im not saying I don't agree with your view but that is because no candidate employed or not really jumps out and excites me at this point. Even Kidd. But if Leon and Co. decide on him I he'll have my fandom support for what its worth. The genius of any hire is in the results and not the starphuch.
I would hope our core are asked to weigh in on any decision (it won't be public) as they for sure weighed in on the Thibian extraction.

For the moment Im good with Brown and perhaps Jenkins if only because he is younger which is kind of stupid if you think about it. Just seems there would be "More upside"? Brown has been an assistant with 4 rings. Jenkins I was happy to read has one with Bud in Milwaukee.

Jason Kidd signed an extension last summer after his finals appearance. Is he asking to renegotiate that deal? If he leverages on knicks interest is this because he wants to be here? More Money? This would be his third time as a head coach he does this. Not sure I like that characteristic. Not like he has some Phil Jax safe full of rings to pull that kind of crap.

All the other names who are being interviewed, I’d be ok with them as coach. Or an assistant out of nowhere, someone unexpected.

I think we will at least go to 7 in the ECF with a new coach who will use their bench. Where starters aren’t setting playing records. Add that to the talent we have, and I think we will be in good shape next season.

Good Jaren Jackson discussion too

PassTheBall wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

VDesai wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

VDesai wrote:Fact is Memphis front office overreacted to a season where the starting lineup basically missed the whole year - made too many changes and took away the reins from Jenkins who had shown he deserved their trust. Maybe we made the same mistake with Thibs. Who knows. In general I think coaching changes are overreactive when you fire a cosch with a winning track record.

I think Kleiman was angry at Jenkins for not playing Edey more and he wanted a more traditional coach like Iasalo to run Edey more. Maybe validate the draft position they used in him. The defense was suffering.

I like Edey and I think he was being underrated pre-dradt, but he never made sense on Memphis roster with their core. Strange move by them.

Jenkins comes from the San Antonio/Pop school. You have a lot of strong coaches coming out of there - Budenholzer, Udoka, Hardy, Borrego, even Mike Brown. Kerr also heavily influenced by Pop with 5 years playing for him.

Jenkins helped Bud turn the Hawks around and followed him to Milwaukee for that 60 win season.

https://www.reddit.com/r/memphisgrizzlies/comments/1jocm01/probably_the_only_solid_take_ive_seen_online/

Yeah I take it back. I’ll pass on Jenkins based on this.

While it’s clear that she is an avid fan, I actually agree with Jenkins’ analytics over the call for a PnR offense even to the extent it would favor Ja. At some point you are choosing between modern analytics versus more traditional offensive sets. To key it to the personnel is important - but the argument that Ja would let be favored in a 5 out is silly. He would have a tremendous amount of space to work. Translated to the Knicks, they are 1 player away from having personnel that favors a 5 out (hint: it’s Herb Jones. JJJ works also). But this personnel favors a modern offense coach. That doesn’t have to mean Jenkins. But I wouldn’t hold much of the Memphis exit against him.

We did see ball movement at times in the regular season. not so in the playoffs. Understandable.
We did see KAT pass into the lanes from the high post as a face up very effective.
We also saw Knicks not getting back transition defense and it's not logical to ask KAT to do that.
It's easy to plug in to obvious deficits but it creates others when done.

FO has moved on from Thibs not for punitive reasons but to move it forward with what assume is likely the same core roster going forward.

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It is so fascinating what Rose has been doing with this coach search. This is no random thing, especially when other coaches are getting extensions.