fishmike wrote:

blkexec wrote:

schizash wrote:If I am not mistaken the guy had decent shooting % in college when he was starting and playing lots of minutes. So in my opinion we should not judge him yet, after just 3 games of meaningful minutes in his first year in the NBA. For sure, because of his size, he will never be an elite defender. However I believe once he becomes permanent member of the rotation and play enough games his shooting will be at a level where it would be good enough to compliment his passing. For me Its amazing to see a rookie to run the offense this way and very enjoyable to watch as a basketball fan. Imagine with 1-2 years of experience what he would be able to do.

Lets hope he's strong enough mentally to ignore the criticism, and improve on his game. I agree with you. This thread will not age well. But thats all predicated on his development and playing time.

Personally, with the lack of defenders on this team (off the bench), Wright's 2-way impact (especially in the playoffs) will be huge for us. Same with Kolek's playmaking, if he can crack the rotation. But Thibs loves Cam Payne. Lets just hope he's on a short leash now that Wright and Kolek have arrived. I like Cam more than the average knick fan, but can't ignore Wrights impact on both ends.

why do you think that? I would not be surprised if Delon replaces him. Feels like Thibs plays him out of pure roster need.

Why do I think that? I'm watching the same game as you. There's no thinking involved. It's clear when you see Thigs rotation. Just wait until Cam is healthy. Hopefully Delon replaces him, but not holding my breath. And Cam has been playing well lately. He's just a different player and I think Delon brings what we need. I think Kolek does as well. See how Shamet looks like he can shoot now? Kolek knows how to deliver that ball in the shooting pocket. Very very important for shooters. JB is like Starbury. Passes the ball when he's in trouble. Kolek and even Delon, they are pass first players. But man, Delon brings some of the little things like tipped balls, steals, blocks, defense, hockey assist....stuff that doesn't show up in the stat sheet sometimes.

1. JB
2. Towns
3. OG
4. Mikal
5. Hart
6. Deuce
7. Mitch
8. Payne
9. Shamet/Delon/Kolek

I doubt Thibs runs a 10 man rotation. I don't even think he runs a 9 man rotation. Who's the 8th man? Deuce is not a PG. Payne is a PG who wants to play SG.

Good luck Thigs with this one. Once everybody is back.

blkexec wrote:

fishmike wrote:

blkexec wrote:

schizash wrote:If I am not mistaken the guy had decent shooting % in college when he was starting and playing lots of minutes. So in my opinion we should not judge him yet, after just 3 games of meaningful minutes in his first year in the NBA. For sure, because of his size, he will never be an elite defender. However I believe once he becomes permanent member of the rotation and play enough games his shooting will be at a level where it would be good enough to compliment his passing. For me Its amazing to see a rookie to run the offense this way and very enjoyable to watch as a basketball fan. Imagine with 1-2 years of experience what he would be able to do.

Lets hope he's strong enough mentally to ignore the criticism, and improve on his game. I agree with you. This thread will not age well. But thats all predicated on his development and playing time.

Personally, with the lack of defenders on this team (off the bench), Wright's 2-way impact (especially in the playoffs) will be huge for us. Same with Kolek's playmaking, if he can crack the rotation. But Thibs loves Cam Payne. Lets just hope he's on a short leash now that Wright and Kolek have arrived. I like Cam more than the average knick fan, but can't ignore Wrights impact on both ends.

why do you think that? I would not be surprised if Delon replaces him. Feels like Thibs plays him out of pure roster need.

Why do I think that? I'm watching the same game as you. There's no thinking involved. It's clear when you see Thigs rotation. Just wait until Cam is healthy. Hopefully Delon replaces him, but not holding my breath. And Cam has been playing well lately. He's just a different player and I think Delon brings what we need. I think Kolek does as well. See how Shamet looks like he can shoot now? Kolek knows how to deliver that ball in the shooting pocket. Very very important for shooters. JB is like Starbury. Passes the ball when he's in trouble. Kolek and even Delon, they are pass first players. But man, Delon brings some of the little things like tipped balls, steals, blocks, defense, hockey assist....stuff that doesn't show up in the stat sheet sometimes.

1. JB
2. Towns
3. OG
4. Mikal
5. Hart
6. Deuce
7. Mitch
8. Payne
9. Shamet/Delon/Kolek

I doubt Thibs runs a 10 man rotation. I don't even think he runs a 9 man rotation. Who's the 8th man? Deuce is not a PG. Payne is a PG who wants to play SG.

Good luck Thigs with this one. Once everybody is back.

The season is done IMO... this is all about getting Brunson back and seeing who is healthy for the playoff rotation. I think Wright beats out Cam for the stuff in bold. I think Mcbride/Shamet will get a little run depending on quality of play and healthy. As much Mitch as possible

franco12 wrote:

VDesai wrote:Delon could also replace Shamet...if Shamet isn't shooting well, than Delon brings more to the table in terms of what else he contributes. I have been surprised about how aggressive Delon is on the boards.

he's also- granted it's small- shooting .444% from 3- which no one expected after his .245% with the Bucks.

Maybe he is D. Rose 2.0!

His shooting reminds me of hart when he first came. Eventually your shooting % will normalize. Right now he’s shooting good at the wright time.

blkexec wrote:

fishmike wrote:

blkexec wrote:

schizash wrote:If I am not mistaken the guy had decent shooting % in college when he was starting and playing lots of minutes. So in my opinion we should not judge him yet, after just 3 games of meaningful minutes in his first year in the NBA. For sure, because of his size, he will never be an elite defender. However I believe once he becomes permanent member of the rotation and play enough games his shooting will be at a level where it would be good enough to compliment his passing. For me Its amazing to see a rookie to run the offense this way and very enjoyable to watch as a basketball fan. Imagine with 1-2 years of experience what he would be able to do.

Lets hope he's strong enough mentally to ignore the criticism, and improve on his game. I agree with you. This thread will not age well. But thats all predicated on his development and playing time.

Personally, with the lack of defenders on this team (off the bench), Wright's 2-way impact (especially in the playoffs) will be huge for us. Same with Kolek's playmaking, if he can crack the rotation. But Thibs loves Cam Payne. Lets just hope he's on a short leash now that Wright and Kolek have arrived. I like Cam more than the average knick fan, but can't ignore Wrights impact on both ends.

why do you think that? I would not be surprised if Delon replaces him. Feels like Thibs plays him out of pure roster need.

Why do I think that? I'm watching the same game as you. There's no thinking involved. It's clear when you see Thigs rotation. Just wait until Cam is healthy. Hopefully Delon replaces him, but not holding my breath. And Cam has been playing well lately. He's just a different player and I think Delon brings what we need. I think Kolek does as well. See how Shamet looks like he can shoot now? Kolek knows how to deliver that ball in the shooting pocket. Very very important for shooters. JB is like Starbury. Passes the ball when he's in trouble. Kolek and even Delon, they are pass first players. But man, Delon brings some of the little things like tipped balls, steals, blocks, defense, hockey assist....stuff that doesn't show up in the stat sheet sometimes.

1. JB
2. Towns
3. OG
4. Mikal
5. Hart
6. Deuce
7. Mitch
8. Payne
9. Shamet/Delon/Kolek

I doubt Thibs runs a 10 man rotation. I don't even think he runs a 9 man rotation. Who's the 8th man? Deuce is not a PG. Payne is a PG who wants to play SG.

Good luck Thigs with this one. Once everybody is back.

Precious Achiuwa says hi.

Panos wrote:

blkexec wrote:

fishmike wrote:

blkexec wrote:

schizash wrote:If I am not mistaken the guy had decent shooting % in college when he was starting and playing lots of minutes. So in my opinion we should not judge him yet, after just 3 games of meaningful minutes in his first year in the NBA. For sure, because of his size, he will never be an elite defender. However I believe once he becomes permanent member of the rotation and play enough games his shooting will be at a level where it would be good enough to compliment his passing. For me Its amazing to see a rookie to run the offense this way and very enjoyable to watch as a basketball fan. Imagine with 1-2 years of experience what he would be able to do.

Lets hope he's strong enough mentally to ignore the criticism, and improve on his game. I agree with you. This thread will not age well. But thats all predicated on his development and playing time.

Personally, with the lack of defenders on this team (off the bench), Wright's 2-way impact (especially in the playoffs) will be huge for us. Same with Kolek's playmaking, if he can crack the rotation. But Thibs loves Cam Payne. Lets just hope he's on a short leash now that Wright and Kolek have arrived. I like Cam more than the average knick fan, but can't ignore Wrights impact on both ends.

why do you think that? I would not be surprised if Delon replaces him. Feels like Thibs plays him out of pure roster need.

Why do I think that? I'm watching the same game as you. There's no thinking involved. It's clear when you see Thigs rotation. Just wait until Cam is healthy. Hopefully Delon replaces him, but not holding my breath. And Cam has been playing well lately. He's just a different player and I think Delon brings what we need. I think Kolek does as well. See how Shamet looks like he can shoot now? Kolek knows how to deliver that ball in the shooting pocket. Very very important for shooters. JB is like Starbury. Passes the ball when he's in trouble. Kolek and even Delon, they are pass first players. But man, Delon brings some of the little things like tipped balls, steals, blocks, defense, hockey assist....stuff that doesn't show up in the stat sheet sometimes.

1. JB
2. Towns
3. OG
4. Mikal
5. Hart
6. Deuce
7. Mitch
8. Payne Shamet
9. Shamet Delon/Precious/Kolek

I doubt Thibs runs a 10 man rotation. I don't even think he runs a 9 man rotation. Who's the 8th man? Deuce is not a PG. Payne is a PG who wants to play SG.

Good luck Thigs with this one. Once everybody is back.

Precious Achiuwa says hi.

fishmike wrote:

franco12 wrote:The Knicks are 8 & 2 in games that Kolek plays 10 or more minutes.

what's their record when Precious hits a 3?

What's their record when Kolek gets a block?