BigDaddyG wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:You’ve made a similar statement before without challenge that spending this money is a requirement, but I don’t think your underlying premise is correct. With a total salary of 159m and a cap minimum of 126mm, they didn’t “need” to spend this money. They chose to.

Your use of Brunson as salary guidance for iHart is a ridiculous comp. Even way back when. You are using magical projections of growth as your modeling that have no basis (or indicator) in actual performance.

IHart’s best comp/replacement pre-contract was Goga using a Per36 to compare what each would do with the same minutes. Goga signed for 9mm.

Brunson’s best comp was FVV.

Hart put up 8/8/2.5 in 25 mins. I can’t think of another player that put up that kind of number before earning 30mm.

This screams cap filler for me. Subtract iHart and what do they use to match salary for another star (KD) to OKC? Those rumors were floating early summer, incorrectly cause OKC would have to trade half their roster to aggregate that much money. A $30mm placeholder gives them a shot at whoever comes up next.

I agree with these most of these points, more or less. Just one thing. While they didn't need to spend, they were in a use it or lose it situation. They are in a win now situation with extensions to all they're key players looming.They have both Shai and Caruso to deal with after this season They kinda had to use that money now or risk not having that cap space moving forward. It's like Bogs. No doubt he could've contributed to the team this upcoming season . He's a nice player to have. But $20M per he is making is just as valuable. I'm sure Presto totally had a similar thought in mind when he doled out that $60M. Not slamming iHart and I wish he was still a Knick. At the end of the day you're worth what you get paid.

Hm. That’s right. Good point about the cap space disappearing.

BigDaddyG wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:You’ve made a similar statement before without challenge that spending this money is a requirement, but I don’t think your underlying premise is correct. With a total salary of 159m and a cap minimum of 126mm, they didn’t “need” to spend this money. They chose to.

Your use of Brunson as salary guidance for iHart is a ridiculous comp. Even way back when. You are using magical projections of growth as your modeling that have no basis (or indicator) in actual performance.

IHart’s best comp/replacement pre-contract was Goga using a Per36 to compare what each would do with the same minutes. Goga signed for 9mm.

Brunson’s best comp was FVV.

Hart put up 8/8/2.5 in 25 mins. I can’t think of another player that put up that kind of number before earning 30mm.

This screams cap filler for me. Subtract iHart and what do they use to match salary for another star (KD) to OKC? Those rumors were floating early summer, incorrectly cause OKC would have to trade half their roster to aggregate that much money. A $30mm placeholder gives them a shot at whoever comes up next.

I agree with these most of these points, more or less. Just one thing. While they didn't need to spend, they were in a use it or lose it situation. They are in a win now situation with extensions to all they're key players looming.They have both Shai and Caruso to deal with after this season They kinda had to use that money now or risk not having that cap space moving forward. It's like Bogs. No doubt he could've contributed to the team this upcoming season . He's a nice player to have. But $20M per he is making is just as valuable. I'm sure Presto totally had a similar thought in mind when he doled out that $60M. Not slamming iHart and I wish he was still a Knick. At the end of the day you're worth what you get paid.

Ben Simmons says hold my beer. Really the only issue with the iHart contract is that he doesn’t score and players who don’t score are generally valued less. The rub is that maybe he is capable of scoring 20pts a night that just wast his role here. I think if he put the ball on the floor or shot a 3 Thibs would have had a coronary.

EwingsGlass wrote:

Rookie wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:You’ve made a similar statement before without challenge that spending this money is a requirement, but I don’t think your underlying premise is correct. With a total salary of 159m and a cap minimum of 126mm, they didn’t “need” to spend this money. They chose to.

Your use of Brunson as salary guidance for iHart is a ridiculous comp. Even way back when. You are using magical projections of growth as your modeling that have no basis (or indicator) in actual performance.

IHart’s best comp/replacement pre-contract was Goga using a Per36 to compare what each would do with the same minutes. Goga signed for 9mm.

Brunson’s best comp was FVV.

Hart put up 8/8/2.5 in 25 mins. I can’t think of another player that put up that kind of number before earning 30mm.

This screams cap filler for me. Subtract iHart and what do they use to match salary for another star (KD) to OKC? Those rumors were floating early summer, incorrectly cause OKC would have to trade half their roster to aggregate that much money. A $30mm placeholder gives them a shot at whoever comes up next.

I agree with these most of these points, more or less. Just one thing. While they didn't need to spend, they were in a use it or lose it situation. They are in a win now situation with extensions to all they're key players looming.They have both Shai and Caruso to deal with after this season They kinda had to use that money now or risk not having that cap space moving forward. It's like Bogs. No doubt he could've contributed to the team this upcoming season . He's a nice player to have. But $20M per he is making is just as valuable. I'm sure Presto totally had a similar thought in mind when he doled out that $60M. Not slamming iHart and I wish he was still a Knick. At the end of the day you're worth what you get paid.

Ben Simmons says hold my beer. Really the only issue with the iHart contract is that he doesn’t score and players who don’t score are generally valued less. The rub is that maybe he is capable of scoring 20pts a night that just wast his role here. I think if he put the ball on the floor or shot a 3 Thibs would have had a coronary.

I mean, that should be a bit of a wake-up call if iHart turns around and becomes a 20/10/5 guy in OKC AND OKC outperforms next year. I really like their squad overall.

Never say never, but I dont see that happening. The 20ppg anyway. iHart looks at what the team needs at a given time and fills that void. Rarely putting up a lot of pts game after game. The ultimate glue guy for us. I see him playing that role for OKC as well.

ToddTT wrote:iHart had become one of my favorite players.

I’m compensating with Ben and Jerry’s.

Just finished some mint chocolate chip myself

EwingsGlass wrote:

martin wrote:

ToddTT wrote:iHart had become one of my favorite players.

I’m compensating with Ben and Jerry’s.

Just finished some mint chocolate chip myself

Mint Chocolate Oreo is the best of all time.

New York Super Fudge Chunk, you heathens.

On this, there can be no debate!

BigDaddyG wrote:

martin wrote:

ToddTT wrote:iHart had become one of my favorite players.

I’m compensating with Ben and Jerry’s.

Just finished some mint chocolate chip myself

Election got you stress eating?

Well that and winter around the corner so I gotta insulate up some

I like this flavor. Not too heavy

ToddTT wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

martin wrote:

ToddTT wrote:iHart had become one of my favorite players.

I’m compensating with Ben and Jerry’s.

Just finished some mint chocolate chip myself

Mint Chocolate Oreo is the best of all time.

New York Super Fudge Chunk, you heathens.

On this, there can be no debate!

As Mister Softee always said, Ice cream is not ice cream unless it is on a stick or on a cone.
So……… Haagan-Dazs Almond bar for me!

HofstraBBall wrote:

ToddTT wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

martin wrote:

ToddTT wrote:iHart had become one of my favorite players.

I’m compensating with Ben and Jerry’s.

Just finished some mint chocolate chip myself

Mint Chocolate Oreo is the best of all time.

New York Super Fudge Chunk, you heathens.

On this, there can be no debate!

As Mister Softee always said, Ice cream is not ice cream unless it is on a stick or on a cone.
So……… Haagan-Dazs Almond bar for me!

Is Mister Softee the Bot in this scenario or just Mister Softee?

ToddTT wrote:

martin wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

ToddTT wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

martin wrote:

ToddTT wrote:iHart had become one of my favorite players.

I’m compensating with Ben and Jerry’s.

Just finished some mint chocolate chip myself

Mint Chocolate Oreo is the best of all time.

New York Super Fudge Chunk, you heathens.

On this, there can be no debate!

As Mister Softee always said, Ice cream is not ice cream unless it is on a stick or on a cone.
So……… Haagan-Dazs Almond bar for me!

Is Mister Softee the Bot in this scenario or just Mister Softee?

You know what kinds of food are shaped like dicks? The best kind!

Have to disagree with you there Bot.