LivingLegend wrote:KAT is highly skilled and was efficient tonight but man he just screams softie to me.

KAT looks like a 2 trick pony - either the quick 3-point set shot or the put head down driving to the right with the long strides and size 19 feet.

As much as Julius upsets my stomach --- I'm sure I'd regret KAT in 2-3 games.

I don't like KAT's game at all and he costs almost twice as much as Randle.

SergioNYK wrote:No shame in losing on the road in Minnesota. That's a good team. It's as simple as making shots and 35% from the field and 9/38 from three isn't going to get it done on the road. Overall we went 3-2 on this road trip which you take 10/10 times.

pretty much. overall a very successful road trip.

Randle shooting 37/27 we are honestly in a great place at 8-6, could be much worse considering how poorly he has shot most of the year. It shows we aren't as reliant on him as in years past.

Nalod wrote:No cred to the winning team talent or defensive chops that stuck it to us?
We got beaten.

We walked into the game knowing Minnesota was a good team. I don't think that's the point. That's given. They beat us soundly.

I think the point for me was that I wasn't sure whether this team could be elite. Right now, I see a team that collapses against top tier teams. Like Utah two years ago. Great record, but can't win against elite teams. This is fine if you want to keep a slightly above 500 record and at 18+ draft pick sitting at the end of the bench every year, but it needs something more to click to break through.

Team needs to re-evaluate how it plays the game. Everyone had a bad shooting night, which is just Minnie playing good defense. But the Knicks offense couldn't breakthrough. They don't have the athleticism to breakthrough.

EwingsGlass wrote:

Nalod wrote:No cred to the winning team talent or defensive chops that stuck it to us?
We got beaten.

We walked into the game knowing Minnesota was a good team. I don't think that's the point. That's given. They beat us soundly.

I think the point for me was that I wasn't sure whether this team could be elite. Right now, I see a team that collapses against top tier teams. Like Utah two years ago. Great record, but can't win against elite teams. This is fine if you want to keep a slightly above 500 record and at 18+ draft pick sitting at the end of the bench every year, but it needs something more to click to break through.

Team needs to re-evaluate how it plays the game. Everyone had a bad shooting night, which is just Minnie playing good defense. But the Knicks offense couldn't breakthrough. They don't have the athleticism to breakthrough.

"collapses" is a huge exaggeration. We had leads @MIL and BOS very late in the 4th. And we've beaten other good teams like CLE, ATL, LAC.

But losing sucks out loud.

SergioNYK wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:KAT is highly skilled and was efficient tonight but man he just screams softie to me.

KAT looks like a 2 trick pony - either the quick 3-point set shot or the put head down driving to the right with the long strides and size 19 feet.

As much as Julius upsets my stomach --- I'm sure I'd regret KAT in 2-3 games.

I don't like KAT's game at all and he costs almost twice as much as Randle.

But Randle is going to need to be extended relatively soon and that deal will be longer/worse vs Kat - no?

EwingsGlass wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

Nalod wrote:No cred to the winning team talent or defensive chops that stuck it to us?
We got beaten.

We walked into the game knowing Minnesota was a good team. I don't think that's the point. That's given. They beat us soundly.

I think the point for me was that I wasn't sure whether this team could be elite. Right now, I see a team that collapses against top tier teams. Like Utah two years ago. Great record, but can't win against elite teams. This is fine if you want to keep a slightly above 500 record and at 18+ draft pick sitting at the end of the bench every year, but it needs something more to click to break through.

Team needs to re-evaluate how it plays the game. Everyone had a bad shooting night, which is just Minnie playing good defense. But the Knicks offense couldn't breakthrough. They don't have the athleticism to breakthrough.

"collapses" is a huge exaggeration. We had leads @MIL and BOS very late in the 4th. And we've beaten other good teams like CLE, ATL, LAC.

We collapsed against both Minnie and Boston. And the first game against Boston where we "had a tight game" at the end, we had a 6 point lead with 3:30 left and somehow lost by 5. That's a collapse.

we came back and took a 6pt lead with 3:30 isn't what i'd call a collapse.

at the end of the day BOS is arguably the best team in the NBA, they're going to win most of those close games. we aren't at that level.

Chandler wrote:i didn't watch last night's game but it does seem like Minny's new coach has the team playing much better.

they came out stronger in the second half and we didn't meet the challenge

same coach i think

martin wrote:

Chandler wrote:i didn't watch last night's game but it does seem like Minny's new coach has the team playing much better.

they came out stronger in the second half and we didn't meet the challenge

same coach i think

oops i thought this was his first full year. it's his second. regardless they do seem to be playing better as a team