Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

Rookie wrote:

ESPN is closing in on promoting Doris Burke to the NBA Finals, hiring Doc Rivers to join her and jettisoning Mark Jackson to the “B” team or off the network, The Post has learned. In the wake of Jeff Van Gundy’s firing in late June, ESPN set their eyes on making Burke the first woman TV analyst on the NBA Finals and hiring Rivers to join Hall of Fame play-by-player, Mike Breen. – via Andrew Marchand @ New York Post

Sources said Jackson could stay on and join play-by-player Mark Jones on the network’s second team. If he balks at that option, he could be headed out of ESPN. – via Andrew Marchand @ New York Post

Van Gundy was a victim of ESPN’s talent layoffs. While Van Gundy was one of the best game analysts in sports, top ESPN executives were wary of his desire to coach again. Van Gundy was also critical of the NBA and its officiating, which the NBA has expressed disappointment at over the years and even this season, according to sources. However, there is no evidence of an edict from the NBA to make a change. – via Andrew Marchand @ New York Post

Oh my God Doris Burke is the worst. Definitely watching on mute.

Imagine the visionary views of Philc are published and the audio tape readings are done by Doris Burke.
My nightmare of hell!!

Is it Burke's delivery? Not for lack of knowledge of the game.

GustavBahler wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

Rookie wrote:

ESPN is closing in on promoting Doris Burke to the NBA Finals, hiring Doc Rivers to join her and jettisoning Mark Jackson to the “B” team or off the network, The Post has learned. In the wake of Jeff Van Gundy’s firing in late June, ESPN set their eyes on making Burke the first woman TV analyst on the NBA Finals and hiring Rivers to join Hall of Fame play-by-player, Mike Breen. – via Andrew Marchand @ New York Post

Sources said Jackson could stay on and join play-by-player Mark Jones on the network’s second team. If he balks at that option, he could be headed out of ESPN. – via Andrew Marchand @ New York Post

Van Gundy was a victim of ESPN’s talent layoffs. While Van Gundy was one of the best game analysts in sports, top ESPN executives were wary of his desire to coach again. Van Gundy was also critical of the NBA and its officiating, which the NBA has expressed disappointment at over the years and even this season, according to sources. However, there is no evidence of an edict from the NBA to make a change. – via Andrew Marchand @ New York Post

Oh my God Doris Burke is the worst. Definitely watching on mute.

Imagine the visionary views of Philc are published and the audio tape readings are done by Doris Burke.
My nightmare of hell!!

Is it Burke's delivery? Not for lack of knowledge of the game.

Mike Breen is really the only one left. Marv Albert, Reggie Miller, Richard Jefferson, Reddick are all haters but Doris is just annoying. I find myself yelling shut up Doris at the screen a lot but I guess that’s just my problem. Beth Mowins is the absolute worst though which means she’ll probably get promoted

MaTT4281 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Is it Burke's delivery? Not for lack of knowledge of the game.

I really don't understand the hate she gets. Not my favorite (we are 100% spoiled with Clyde and Mike), but as good as anyone else on the next tier down. Maybe a bit bland? But nothing that takes away from the game. Actively can't stand Jax or Jefferson. I am looking forward to seeing how Doc does, even with his gravel voice.

I suppose Mark Jax spoke to god and he answered?

MaTT4281 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Is it Burke's delivery? Not for lack of knowledge of the game.

I really don't understand the hate she gets. Not my favorite (we are 100% spoiled with Clyde and Mike), but as good as anyone else on the next tier down. Maybe a bit bland? But nothing that takes away from the game. Actively can't stand Jax or Jefferson. I am looking forward to seeing how Doc does, even with his gravel voice.

Bill Walton does it for me. Walton knows the game but he always got on my nerves. I feel the same way about Jefferson. Reddick is smart, believe he has the skills to be a coach or exec, but he is no "people person". Get the feeling he would probably alienate players in short order.

GustavBahler wrote:

Rookie wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

Rookie wrote:

ESPN is closing in on promoting Doris Burke to the NBA Finals, hiring Doc Rivers to join her and jettisoning Mark Jackson to the “B” team or off the network, The Post has learned. In the wake of Jeff Van Gundy’s firing in late June, ESPN set their eyes on making Burke the first woman TV analyst on the NBA Finals and hiring Rivers to join Hall of Fame play-by-player, Mike Breen. – via Andrew Marchand @ New York Post

Sources said Jackson could stay on and join play-by-player Mark Jones on the network’s second team. If he balks at that option, he could be headed out of ESPN. – via Andrew Marchand @ New York Post

Van Gundy was a victim of ESPN’s talent layoffs. While Van Gundy was one of the best game analysts in sports, top ESPN executives were wary of his desire to coach again. Van Gundy was also critical of the NBA and its officiating, which the NBA has expressed disappointment at over the years and even this season, according to sources. However, there is no evidence of an edict from the NBA to make a change. – via Andrew Marchand @ New York Post

Oh my God Doris Burke is the worst. Definitely watching on mute.

Imagine the visionary views of Philc are published and the audio tape readings are done by Doris Burke.
My nightmare of hell!!

Is it Burke's delivery? Not for lack of knowledge of the game.

Mike Breen is really the only one left. Marv Albert, Reggie Miller, Richard Jefferson, Reddick are all haters but Doris is just annoying. I find myself yelling shut up Doris at the screen a lot but I guess that’s just my problem. Beth Mowins is the absolute worst though which means she’ll probably get promoted

I very much disagree with Marv Albert being classified as a "hater". He has been a fan since traveling with the Knicks as a ball boy, when Albert was a kid.

Marv got canned because he told the truth about the state of the team at the time. I would have been disappointed if Marv was just a cheerleader. Should have his name up in the rafters at MSG for his contribution to the franchise over many decades.

Didn't Marv Albert get fired after being accused of sexual assault? I think he eventually pleaded guilty. I just assumed he carried a grudge since he always sounds like he's rooting for whoever we are playing

Rookie wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Rookie wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

Rookie wrote:

ESPN is closing in on promoting Doris Burke to the NBA Finals, hiring Doc Rivers to join her and jettisoning Mark Jackson to the “B” team or off the network, The Post has learned. In the wake of Jeff Van Gundy’s firing in late June, ESPN set their eyes on making Burke the first woman TV analyst on the NBA Finals and hiring Rivers to join Hall of Fame play-by-player, Mike Breen. – via Andrew Marchand @ New York Post

Sources said Jackson could stay on and join play-by-player Mark Jones on the network’s second team. If he balks at that option, he could be headed out of ESPN. – via Andrew Marchand @ New York Post

Van Gundy was a victim of ESPN’s talent layoffs. While Van Gundy was one of the best game analysts in sports, top ESPN executives were wary of his desire to coach again. Van Gundy was also critical of the NBA and its officiating, which the NBA has expressed disappointment at over the years and even this season, according to sources. However, there is no evidence of an edict from the NBA to make a change. – via Andrew Marchand @ New York Post

Oh my God Doris Burke is the worst. Definitely watching on mute.

Imagine the visionary views of Philc are published and the audio tape readings are done by Doris Burke.
My nightmare of hell!!

Is it Burke's delivery? Not for lack of knowledge of the game.

Mike Breen is really the only one left. Marv Albert, Reggie Miller, Richard Jefferson, Reddick are all haters but Doris is just annoying. I find myself yelling shut up Doris at the screen a lot but I guess that’s just my problem. Beth Mowins is the absolute worst though which means she’ll probably get promoted

I very much disagree with Marv Albert being classified as a "hater". He has been a fan since traveling with the Knicks as a ball boy, when Albert was a kid.

Marv got canned because he told the truth about the state of the team at the time. I would have been disappointed if Marv was just a cheerleader. Should have his name up in the rafters at MSG for his contribution to the franchise over many decades.

Didn't Marv Albert get fired after being accused of sexual assault? I think he eventually pleaded guilty. I just assumed he carried a grudge since he always sounds like he's rooting for whoever we are playing

That was not at work, not that it makes it acceptable. As I recall Marv was fired by Dolan because he wouldnt sugarcoat the hot mess the Knicks had become under Isiah. Isiah cost the Knicks millions for his behavior towards women. Dolan didnt seem to care.

GustavBahler wrote:

Rookie wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Rookie wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

Rookie wrote:

ESPN is closing in on promoting Doris Burke to the NBA Finals, hiring Doc Rivers to join her and jettisoning Mark Jackson to the “B” team or off the network, The Post has learned. In the wake of Jeff Van Gundy’s firing in late June, ESPN set their eyes on making Burke the first woman TV analyst on the NBA Finals and hiring Rivers to join Hall of Fame play-by-player, Mike Breen. – via Andrew Marchand @ New York Post

Sources said Jackson could stay on and join play-by-player Mark Jones on the network’s second team. If he balks at that option, he could be headed out of ESPN. – via Andrew Marchand @ New York Post

Van Gundy was a victim of ESPN’s talent layoffs. While Van Gundy was one of the best game analysts in sports, top ESPN executives were wary of his desire to coach again. Van Gundy was also critical of the NBA and its officiating, which the NBA has expressed disappointment at over the years and even this season, according to sources. However, there is no evidence of an edict from the NBA to make a change. – via Andrew Marchand @ New York Post

Oh my God Doris Burke is the worst. Definitely watching on mute.

Imagine the visionary views of Philc are published and the audio tape readings are done by Doris Burke.
My nightmare of hell!!

Is it Burke's delivery? Not for lack of knowledge of the game.

Mike Breen is really the only one left. Marv Albert, Reggie Miller, Richard Jefferson, Reddick are all haters but Doris is just annoying. I find myself yelling shut up Doris at the screen a lot but I guess that’s just my problem. Beth Mowins is the absolute worst though which means she’ll probably get promoted

I very much disagree with Marv Albert being classified as a "hater". He has been a fan since traveling with the Knicks as a ball boy, when Albert was a kid.

Marv got canned because he told the truth about the state of the team at the time. I would have been disappointed if Marv was just a cheerleader. Should have his name up in the rafters at MSG for his contribution to the franchise over many decades.

Didn't Marv Albert get fired after being accused of sexual assault? I think he eventually pleaded guilty. I just assumed he carried a grudge since he always sounds like he's rooting for whoever we are playing

That was not at work, not that it makes it acceptable. As I recall Marv was fired by Dolan because he wouldnt sugarcoat the hot mess the Knicks had become under Isiah. Isiah cost the Knicks millions for his behavior towards women. Dolan didnt seem to care.

I just looked it up. He was fired by NBC and resigned from MSG after the allegations. He eventually pleaded guilty to assaulting a woman while wearing ladies panties. It wasn't a good look for him. He was a great broadcaster back in the day

Nalod wrote:

Rookie wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

Rookie wrote:

ESPN is closing in on promoting Doris Burke to the NBA Finals, hiring Doc Rivers to join her and jettisoning Mark Jackson to the “B” team or off the network, The Post has learned. In the wake of Jeff Van Gundy’s firing in late June, ESPN set their eyes on making Burke the first woman TV analyst on the NBA Finals and hiring Rivers to join Hall of Fame play-by-player, Mike Breen. – via Andrew Marchand @ New York Post

Sources said Jackson could stay on and join play-by-player Mark Jones on the network’s second team. If he balks at that option, he could be headed out of ESPN. – via Andrew Marchand @ New York Post

Van Gundy was a victim of ESPN’s talent layoffs. While Van Gundy was one of the best game analysts in sports, top ESPN executives were wary of his desire to coach again. Van Gundy was also critical of the NBA and its officiating, which the NBA has expressed disappointment at over the years and even this season, according to sources. However, there is no evidence of an edict from the NBA to make a change. – via Andrew Marchand @ New York Post

Oh my God Doris Burke is the worst. Definitely watching on mute.

Imagine the visionary views of Philc are published and the audio tape readings are done by Doris Burke.
My nightmare of hell!!

Is it Burke's delivery? Not for lack of knowledge of the game.

Mike Breen is really the only one left. Marv Albert, Reggie Miller, Richard Jefferson, Reddick are all haters but Doris is just annoying. I find myself yelling shut up Doris at the screen a lot but I guess that’s just my problem. Beth Mowins is the absolute worst though which means she’ll probably get promoted

Rookie, do we have a problem with women announcing NBA games?
I find that when knicks are doing well there is less “hate”. Richard Jeff I think called a game or two vs. Cavs and he was ok. Or in the studio, I don’t recall. Reggie Miller also.

Personally I find Knick hate is rarely not deserving. When they are doing well they get praised. MSG with our guys don’t need to talk about the teams as much as most viewers do follow what is going on and understand the state of the team. If there is a blowout game, the color announcer has to bash the loser if there are redundancy in the performance. If team has losing record, its a thing. Good teams have bad games.

personally I don’t mind Doris at all. She is better than Mark Jax. JVG really got annoying the last 5 years. His fake ass hype to stir things up got old. He and Mark Jax had a long run. Time for new blood. Ratings and study groups give feed back and it spoke.
Lets see if Doris sharpens it up a bit with this big promotion!

Honestly I can see you coming to that conclusion after reading what I wrote. Outside of Clyde and Breen the only other broadcast I like is Charlotte with Del Curry. I think Stephanie Ready does a great job with them. I also loved Tina Cervasio. Alternatively I can't stand Monica McNut. I think the way she acts making faces and rolling her eyes when others are commenting is childish. Wally drives me nuts on the game call and Alan Hahn can be very dry when working a game. The TNT crew with Kenny and Shaq just act like clowns. NFL prime time telecasts with Joe Buck or Chris Collinsworth are unwatchable. I have a hard time watching anything with Hannah Storm.

I pretty much talk to the screen when I'm watching a game even if I am watching alone. Is that so unusual? And, I frequently wish broadcasters would STFU and just call the game. Shhesh what's the big deal

martin wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Is it Burke's delivery? Not for lack of knowledge of the game.

I really don't understand the hate she gets. Not my favorite (we are 100% spoiled with Clyde and Mike), but as good as anyone else on the next tier down. Maybe a bit bland? But nothing that takes away from the game. Actively can't stand Jax or Jefferson. I am looking forward to seeing how Doc does, even with his gravel voice.

I'm in this bucket for everything you said.

Doris is 1000xs better then Jackson, Reggie, etc