doomed wrote:IQ isn’t going anywhere. He’s got more upside than any other knick and it’s coming to fruition right before our eyes. And last I checked two dynamic guards can co-exist especially when IQ is more a combo guard anyway. Any one talking about dealing IQ should be put in timeout. For the love of everything holy just stop. Guy plays defense, has range from anywhere on the court and can run the offense. Last time the Knicks had two big time talents at lead guard they fuct it all up and let them both get away. First they drank the stupid juice, thought deeply on how stupid they can be and traded Rod Strickland for Maurice cheeks, who literally had 3 months of nba play left in him. Then they traded mark jackson away a couple years later.

Let’s keep both guards this time. Thanks in advance.

From a Knick fan and Knick management perspective, it makes sense to keep IQ, Brunson, RJ and Grimes. From IQ's perspective, why would I want to be a career 6th man without ever getting an opportunity to be a consistent starter? Not only that, but as a starter, I have a greater chance increase my numbers and make more money.

Uptown wrote:

doomed wrote:IQ isn’t going anywhere. He’s got more upside than any other knick and it’s coming to fruition right before our eyes. And last I checked two dynamic guards can co-exist especially when IQ is more a combo guard anyway. Any one talking about dealing IQ should be put in timeout. For the love of everything holy just stop. Guy plays defense, has range from anywhere on the court and can run the offense. Last time the Knicks had two big time talents at lead guard they fuct it all up and let them both get away. First they drank the stupid juice, thought deeply on how stupid they can be and traded Rod Strickland for Maurice cheeks, who literally had 3 months of nba play left in him. Then they traded mark jackson away a couple years later.

Let’s keep both guards this time. Thanks in advance.

From a Knick fan and Knick management perspective, it makes sense to keep IQ, Brunson, RJ and Grimes. From IQ's perspective, why would I want to be a career 6th man without ever getting an opportunity to be a consistent starter? Not only that, but as a starter, I have a greater chance increase my numbers and make more money.

Also from IQ's perspective: He can get more money - regardless if he is a starter or 6th man - from the Knicks than any other team. His avenue to even greater money, if that's a consideration, will also be enhanced in NY compared to many other teams.

If he wants to be a starter, he will have to (mostly likely) take less money, go to a team with cap space (most all the good teams will be capped albeit 2025 TV contract may negate that).

NY is in a spot to win for a very long time too, they built young. NY is about to embark on a winning team run, got to consider that.

Uptown wrote:

martin wrote:

Uptown wrote:

doomed wrote:IQ isn’t going anywhere. He’s got more upside than any other knick and it’s coming to fruition right before our eyes. And last I checked two dynamic guards can co-exist especially when IQ is more a combo guard anyway. Any one talking about dealing IQ should be put in timeout. For the love of everything holy just stop. Guy plays defense, has range from anywhere on the court and can run the offense. Last time the Knicks had two big time talents at lead guard they fuct it all up and let them both get away. First they drank the stupid juice, thought deeply on how stupid they can be and traded Rod Strickland for Maurice cheeks, who literally had 3 months of nba play left in him. Then they traded mark jackson away a couple years later.

Let’s keep both guards this time. Thanks in advance.

From a Knick fan and Knick management perspective, it makes sense to keep IQ, Brunson, RJ and Grimes. From IQ's perspective, why would I want to be a career 6th man without ever getting an opportunity to be a consistent starter? Not only that, but as a starter, I have a greater chance increase my numbers and make more money.

Also from IQ's perspective: He can get more money - regardless if he is a starter or 6th man - from the Knicks than any other team. His avenue to even greater money, if that's a consideration, will also be enhanced in NY compared to many other teams.

If he wants to be a starter, he will have to (mostly likely) take less money, go to a team with cap space (most all the good teams will be capped albeit 2025 TV contract may negate that).

NY is in a spot to win for a very long time too, they built young. NY is about to embark on a winning team run, got to consider that.

Instead of leaving as a FA, most players/teams will conduct a sign and trade or the player will sign the contract with the home team to get his money and force his way out. Didn't Quickley recently make a statement expressing a desire to be more than a microwave/6th man off the bench? Quickley is 23 and wants an opportunity to prove he is a starter and perhaps can run his on team in this league. I want him here, but I get it and I don't see anything wrong with that.

Starting is status to most players. Remember the whole Sprewell/Van Gundy issue back in 99-00?

I mentioned in another thread using IQ like Sac used Haliburton and get an important piece back... OR commit to starting IQ at SG and potentially use Grimes/RJ combo to bring in an elite SF like Ingram. You balance that one with McBride/JHart off the bench

All I know is its GREAT having these tough choices, because we finally have some good players. Im willing to wait and see how good and hopefully we keep them together.

That Miami team got totally devoured by the combo of IQ/Grimes/JHart on defense. RJ/IHart did a nice job banging around but damn that IQ/Grimes/Josh trio absolutely devoured the Heat and with guys like Butler and Hero that's something man

Philc1 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

martin wrote:

Uptown wrote:

doomed wrote:IQ isn’t going anywhere. He’s got more upside than any other knick and it’s coming to fruition right before our eyes. And last I checked two dynamic guards can co-exist especially when IQ is more a combo guard anyway. Any one talking about dealing IQ should be put in timeout. For the love of everything holy just stop. Guy plays defense, has range from anywhere on the court and can run the offense. Last time the Knicks had two big time talents at lead guard they fuct it all up and let them both get away. First they drank the stupid juice, thought deeply on how stupid they can be and traded Rod Strickland for Maurice cheeks, who literally had 3 months of nba play left in him. Then they traded mark jackson away a couple years later.

Let’s keep both guards this time. Thanks in advance.

From a Knick fan and Knick management perspective, it makes sense to keep IQ, Brunson, RJ and Grimes. From IQ's perspective, why would I want to be a career 6th man without ever getting an opportunity to be a consistent starter? Not only that, but as a starter, I have a greater chance increase my numbers and make more money.

Also from IQ's perspective: He can get more money - regardless if he is a starter or 6th man - from the Knicks than any other team. His avenue to even greater money, if that's a consideration, will also be enhanced in NY compared to many other teams.

If he wants to be a starter, he will have to (mostly likely) take less money, go to a team with cap space (most all the good teams will be capped albeit 2025 TV contract may negate that).

NY is in a spot to win for a very long time too, they built young. NY is about to embark on a winning team run, got to consider that.

Instead of leaving as a FA, most players/teams will conduct a sign and trade or the player will sign the contract with the home team to get his money and force his way out. Didn't Quickley recently make a statement expressing a desire to be more than a microwave/6th man off the bench? Quickley is 23 and wants an opportunity to prove he is a starter and perhaps can run his on team in this league. I want him here, but I get it and I don't see anything wrong with that.

Starting is status to most players. Remember the whole Sprewell/Van Gundy issue back in 99-00?

IQ will eventually get his shot to start. A move can be made in the offseason to open up SG for him. Maybe depending on who gets the 3 pick if it’s some team out West we send them RJ and a conditional future pick(I just made half the messageboard orgasm with that suggestion) and then draft Brandon Miller

Have to hope Brandon miller out of the box does not need a few years of devlopment.
I agree IQ will get his chance one day. Does not mean we trade him or trade him this off season.
I would not be in favor of trading him for Lillard or CP3 given their ages.

Who then? Depends.
I don't see a move that moves us to legit contender. That don't mean it don't exist!