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Sambakick
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11/13/2022  2:17 PM
Inexplicable 4th quarter minutes for stone cold Fournier
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11/13/2022  2:24 PM
We going to the lottery folks
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11/13/2022  2:27 PM
And we will be just bad enough not to get a difference maker.

Don’t see a lot to hold onto on this roster. We are only missing Robinson, and the talent we do have is underwhelming. Rose has sucked so far, his drafts have been fair and his signings have been below average.

Pathetic effort today.

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11/13/2022  2:27 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:So it's just going to be one of these days.

We might be too mediocre for that. The more thing a change, the more they remain the same.

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11/13/2022  2:30 PM
Oklahoma has a top 3 backcourt. Add a fierce center and just cultivate . Their talent level is higher than ours by a mile
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11/13/2022  2:31 PM
Sambakick wrote:Inexplicable 4th quarter minutes for stone cold Fournier

He’s awful right now

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11/13/2022  2:31 PM
Those kind of rout happens a few times a season for a lot of teams but it's been a dozen game and we already had 3. They are getting humiliated.
Something has got to change now.
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11/13/2022  2:36 PM
shinmen wrote:Those kind of rout happens a few times a season for a lot of teams but it's been a dozen game and we already had 3. They are getting humiliated.
Something has got to change now.

Get used to them. We can't shoot 3's and we give up a near league leading amount of open 3's. That is a recipe for disaster.

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11/13/2022  2:42 PM
This is a stars league and we have none. It’s unfortunate we signed Brunson because I think if we hadn’t done it it would’ve been easier to go all in on the Mitchell trade. He had made great improvement in his passing to actually become the starter at PG for our team and he would’ve been the foundation we needed. Even with Brunson, we should’ve done it although it would’ve been less ideal.

Point is, the Knicks have gone from mediocre with no star to bad, back to mediocre with no star. This doesn’t cut it.

We might have to accept that we might have to “lose” a trade in order to get a star. Give more of the solid pieces we have because none amount to the impact a star will have on our direction.

If SGA really becomes available at any point, we must go ALL IN on it. Nobody, no draft pick is out of bounds.

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11/13/2022  2:45 PM
Knicksfan wrote:This is a stars league and we have none. It’s unfortunate we signed Brunson because I think if we hadn’t done it it would’ve been easier to go all in on the Mitchell trade. He had made great improvement in his passing to actually become the starter at PG for our team and he would’ve been the foundation we needed. Even with Brunson, we should’ve done it although it would’ve been less ideal.

Point is, the Knicks have gone from mediocre with no star to bad, back to mediocre with no star. This doesn’t cut it.

We might have to accept that we might have to “lose” a trade in order to get a star. Give more of the solid pieces we have because none amount to the impact a star will have on our direction.

If SGA really becomes available at any point, we must go ALL IN on it. Nobody, no draft pick is out of bounds.

You wanted to go all in on a Mitchell trade? Who would we have left? Mitchell, Randle and Robinson? You think that team is going to be better than we are now? At least we are bad with our picks. We would be bad with no picks. If we did not sign Brunson and went all in on Mitchell.

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11/13/2022  2:46 PM
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11/13/2022  2:50 PM
Clean wrote:

Fournier threw a lob to OBI in the first to set the Knicks record for points.

He sucked, but give him one assist.

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11/13/2022  2:52 PM
Clean wrote:

Arrange a buyout pay him the rest of this season and all of 3 million of next and he can sign with another NBA team or go to Europe

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11/13/2022  2:53 PM
This is the worst loss in the Thibs era. He should be let go. Plus trade Randle, Rose, and Fournier for whatever trade assets you can get.
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11/13/2022  2:57 PM
Clean wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:This is a stars league and we have none. It’s unfortunate we signed Brunson because I think if we hadn’t done it it would’ve been easier to go all in on the Mitchell trade. He had made great improvement in his passing to actually become the starter at PG for our team and he would’ve been the foundation we needed. Even with Brunson, we should’ve done it although it would’ve been less ideal.

Point is, the Knicks have gone from mediocre with no star to bad, back to mediocre with no star. This doesn’t cut it.

We might have to accept that we might have to “lose” a trade in order to get a star. Give more of the solid pieces we have because none amount to the impact a star will have on our direction.

If SGA really becomes available at any point, we must go ALL IN on it. Nobody, no draft pick is out of bounds.

You wanted to go all in on a Mitchell trade? Who would we have left? Mitchell, Randle and Robinson? You think that team is going to be better than we are now? At least we are bad with our picks. We would be bad with no picks. If we did not sign Brunson and went all in on Mitchell.

We aren’t bad, we are mediocre. This team will manage to stay around .500 to compete for a play in position and stay away from game changing picks.

It’s got to start somewhere. A trade for a star might deplete you a bit, but they don’t grow on trees and we haven’t been able to get one in many years. We need a player to build around. We keep hoarding solid players that never amount to a star. We had a chance with Mitchell and let it slip away.

If we get another chance with SGA, we have to go all in. It’s not about the final wins and losses this year, it’s about finally having a star to point to a definitive direction.

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11/13/2022  3:02 PM
Knicksfan wrote:
Clean wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:This is a stars league and we have none. It’s unfortunate we signed Brunson because I think if we hadn’t done it it would’ve been easier to go all in on the Mitchell trade. He had made great improvement in his passing to actually become the starter at PG for our team and he would’ve been the foundation we needed. Even with Brunson, we should’ve done it although it would’ve been less ideal.

Point is, the Knicks have gone from mediocre with no star to bad, back to mediocre with no star. This doesn’t cut it.

We might have to accept that we might have to “lose” a trade in order to get a star. Give more of the solid pieces we have because none amount to the impact a star will have on our direction.

If SGA really becomes available at any point, we must go ALL IN on it. Nobody, no draft pick is out of bounds.

You wanted to go all in on a Mitchell trade? Who would we have left? Mitchell, Randle and Robinson? You think that team is going to be better than we are now? At least we are bad with our picks. We would be bad with no picks. If we did not sign Brunson and went all in on Mitchell.

We aren’t bad, we are mediocre. This team will manage to stay around .500 to compete for a play in position and stay away from game changing picks.

It’s got to start somewhere. A trade for a star might deplete you a bit, but they don’t grow on trees and we haven’t been able to get one in many years. We need a player to build around. We keep hoarding solid players that never amount to a star. We had a chance with Mitchell and let it slip away.

If we get another chance with SGA, we have to go all in. It’s not about the final wins and losses this year, it’s about finally having a star to point to a definitive direction.

You are correct that we are not bad. I agree we are mediocre but I usually just say that mediocre teams are bad because they end up in the lottery with the bad teams just without the benefit of getting good draft position. So in my mind they are worse off than the truly bad teams.

The rest of the stuff you say about building around the star and you have to start somewhere. My question would be build around them with what? We would be capped out. We would have no picks. We would have no young players. What assets are you using to build around Mitchell? No one wants Randel and Evan.

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11/13/2022  3:02 PM
Knicksfan wrote:
Clean wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:This is a stars league and we have none. It’s unfortunate we signed Brunson because I think if we hadn’t done it it would’ve been easier to go all in on the Mitchell trade. He had made great improvement in his passing to actually become the starter at PG for our team and he would’ve been the foundation we needed. Even with Brunson, we should’ve done it although it would’ve been less ideal.

Point is, the Knicks have gone from mediocre with no star to bad, back to mediocre with no star. This doesn’t cut it.

We might have to accept that we might have to “lose” a trade in order to get a star. Give more of the solid pieces we have because none amount to the impact a star will have on our direction.

If SGA really becomes available at any point, we must go ALL IN on it. Nobody, no draft pick is out of bounds.

You wanted to go all in on a Mitchell trade? Who would we have left? Mitchell, Randle and Robinson? You think that team is going to be better than we are now? At least we are bad with our picks. We would be bad with no picks. If we did not sign Brunson and went all in on Mitchell.

We aren’t bad, we are mediocre. This team will manage to stay around .500 to compete for a play in position and stay away from game changing picks.

It’s got to start somewhere. A trade for a star might deplete you a bit, but they don’t grow on trees and we haven’t been able to get one in many years. We need a player to build around. We keep hoarding solid players that never amount to a star. We had a chance with Mitchell and let it slip away.

If we get another chance with SGA, we have to go all in. It’s not about the final wins and losses this year, it’s about finally having a star to point to a definitive direction.

We will find out if we are mediocre or awful the next road trip. I can see the team getting pick 6-9 and getting a future starting sf/sg. We will also draft a another sf/sg. This year is all about evaluating Cam and Grimes. I can see also trading Mitch and the deadline and Evan being bought out

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11/13/2022  3:03 PM
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11/13/2022  3:05 PM
Clean wrote:Obi is shooting 80% FGs and 66% on 3's and can only get 14 minutes. The BS about him not getting playing time because of shooting was a damn lie. Thibs is going to lose his job hitching his ride to ISO Randle and Evan who is shooting 0% tonight.

It's funny, I think Obi got pulled cause he didn't shoot it enough. He had a WIDE open 3 from ball movement and instead of shooting passed to an equally wide open IQ for corner 3.

It's a generous pass but that's exactly when Obi was pulled. Obi, best 3 pt shooter on team, passed an open shot to a struggle 3pt shooter. It's a basketball decision you have to be able to make in real time.

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11/13/2022  3:07 PM
Tom Thibs famous defense gave OKC 122 points in 3 quarters !!!
Should Tom Thibs be allowed in MSG after today 135-145 LOSS ???
Yes! When Leon Rose plan for the Knicks 2022-23 season is to TANK the season !!!
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