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[Game Thread 11/2/22] Knicks vs Hawks 7:30PM
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GustavBahler
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11/2/2022  9:55 PM
GustavBahler wrote:The slow finish to the half looked more mental, than physical. Keeping up the intensity. Something to work on if we want to contend.

Yep

Was too easy to knock them off their stride. A division rival doing it makes it worse. Have to be ready to play 4 strong quarters. We clearly werent.

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11/2/2022  9:57 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/2/2022  9:58 PM

Basically this is the third time Thibs has been the coach and the team completely collapsed.

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11/2/2022  10:00 PM
wargames wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Embarrassing game.

It’s early but Thibs might be fired very soon…

Nash?

Question, I missed the second half so I saw the 1st half and left at half time. I look on my phone the score flipped! Plus how on the hell did Randle get held to 2 PTS in the 2 half?

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11/2/2022  10:00 PM
wargames wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Embarrassing game.

It’s early but Thibs might be fired very soon…

I was liking his moves in the preseason but it seems like they stopped in the preseason. Its back to the same things we did last year once the games counted. What also has me now being fine with him not being here is during the game vs the Grizz Ja was miced up and he was telling his team the scouting report on RJ . Then after that seeing us totally play players who can't shoot like they could shoot. I keep bringing this up but Dennis Smith is a poor shooter and Paolo shot BELOW 25% from 3 by the time we played him but we kept going over screens playing them close and biting on pump fakes.

In the pre season the Pacers rookie pump faked every single time he had a defender running at him and we fell for 95% of them. These are details that we can't afford to overlook because we don't have to talent to afford us that luxury. Games when RJ was shooting like 1-13 and he finished the game. Games where Randle was not playing good and he finished the game. Before it was because Obi can't shoot but he is now shooting 50% from 3 but nothing changes. RJ and Randle are too inefficient and their styles don't mix to play together but Thibs will keep doing it until he is fired because he never tries anything different. We all heard me talk about Thibs defense giving up wide open 3's all game so I am not going to get into that again. I am ready to move on.

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11/2/2022  10:05 PM
Unfortunately we arent getting enough scoring from our bigs, outside of Randle. Dont see that changing soon. Would like to see Grimes/McBride subbed in when the backcourt isnt making enough stops. Maybe we wont have these wild swings in the score, as often. Also sends a message that if you arent defending, you arent playing.
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11/2/2022  10:09 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/2/2022  10:14 PM
wargames wrote:

Basically this is the third time Thibs has been the coach and the team completely collapsed.

JB
RJ
Randle
Fournier

4 starters who are offensively wired

What happens when offensive players can’t score, their defense drops. That’s why we need more Grimes type players that can impact the game even when shots or offense isn’t working.

Doesn’t take a HOF coach to realize you can only go so far with only 1 elite defender (Mitch) and FOUR inconsistent and high volume streaky scorers.

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11/2/2022  10:10 PM
blkexec wrote:
wargames wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Embarrassing game.

It’s early but Thibs might be fired very soon…

Nash?

Question, I missed the second half so I saw the 1st half and left at half time. I look on my phone the score flipped! Plus how on the hell did Randle get held to 2 PTS in the 2 half?

Ime would have been the big name coach to consider (scandal and all) but like always the Nets grab something the Knicks could use just to spoil it. All things equal if it happens I think it would be for Bryant.

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11/2/2022  10:15 PM
Honestly this team sucks!

Call the lakers get the picks send them rose, Fournier, Reddish hartensien for two number ones tank the season and let’s go

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11/2/2022  10:18 PM
The fact that they had 2 days to practice, rectify or address issues from the last two games, and then they play like this?!?! Thibs has to take a lot of the blame...
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11/2/2022  10:19 PM
You need that one guy who can put the team on his back…..we ain’t got that guy.
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11/2/2022  10:20 PM
Thibs is a creature of habit, he has a formula for winning games if that is not working like tonight it will always end up in a loss. There is very limited wiggle room for thibs. I hope the FO can sniff around maybe Kenny Atkinson will be willing to take over. I want to see how johnny bryant can stir this team as well.

When thibs' formula works it can blow teams away but if its not working fans will see a sucky game on display.

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11/2/2022  10:32 PM
Can't even count on Randle to increase his trade value At least RJ shot close to average tonight and Quick looked fairly dynamic. I knew Murray and Trae would kill us. Didn't see their frontcourt being more physical than ours. Mitch and then damn fouls
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11/2/2022  10:38 PM
We arent a good 3pt shooting team

https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/three-point-pct#

and we're even worse at defending the 3. Too many open looks


https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/opponent-three-point-rate

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11/2/2022  10:43 PM
Anyone catch the Cavs/Celtics? If we're firing anyone, it should be the FO for not getting a deal down for Mitchell.

Seriously - disappointed. I had a feeling Atlanta was going to perk up and beat us. I should bet against them as they will probably lose their next 1-3 games.

Maybe it is time for a change of voice in the coach.

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11/2/2022  10:44 PM
GustavBahler wrote:We arent a good 3pt shooting team

https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/three-point-pct#

and we're even worse at defending the 3. Too many open looks


https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/opponent-three-point-rate

At least we not the Lakers. 26% ????

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11/2/2022  10:48 PM
franco12 wrote:Anyone catch the Cavs/Celtics? If we're firing anyone, it should be the FO for not getting a deal down for Mitchell.

Seriously - disappointed. I had a feeling Atlanta was going to perk up and beat us. I should bet against them as they will probably lose their next 1-3 games.

Maybe it is time for a change of voice in the coach.

You realize that too? Last time they started losing after beating us. I think we just need a lineup change and / or trade Fournier. Play that shooter from preseason.

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11/2/2022  10:48 PM
blkexec wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:We arent a good 3pt shooting team

https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/three-point-pct#

and we're even worse at defending the 3. Too many open looks


https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/opponent-three-point-rate

At least we not the Lakers. 26% ????

And the bar lowers even more 😔

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11/2/2022  10:50 PM
blkexec wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:We arent a good 3pt shooting team

https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/three-point-pct#

and we're even worse at defending the 3. Too many open looks


https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/opponent-three-point-rate

At least we not the Lakers. 26% ????

Lakers and Nets are a soap opera now. So glad we arent one anymore. Knicks have their issues, nothing like two teams which are supposed to be contending.

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11/2/2022  10:58 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/2/2022  11:00 PM
Atleast we’re not getting beat by random scrubs anymore. That’s progress right?!?
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11/2/2022  11:01 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
blkexec wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:We arent a good 3pt shooting team

https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/three-point-pct#

and we're even worse at defending the 3. Too many open looks


https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/opponent-three-point-rate

At least we not the Lakers. 26% ????

And the bar lowers even more 😔

Gus this is exactly what should happen based on the data. So nobody should be surprised when we at the bottom of shooting and defending the 3. Can’t control the 3s we make. But we can control the 3s we give up.

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