TripleThreat wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:
If we need a better "best player" then how bout we keep him and get a better one? You are assuming a better player wants to come here or that Ramdle is keeping us from getting another star? Who and where is he coming from? I'm open to trading Randle for a "better" star player. Do you think ONE All Star on this squad will get us past the first round?

His production has been recorded. Which shows more than just two solid years. And Saying he only had two seasons in which he was a SYAR is minimizing how hard that is and the fact that makes him a really good player. Pouting to refs is definitely something he has to work on but let's not pretend MOST players hate losing and the team we had last year did a lot of it. Don't remember anyone complaining about that as an issue when he has an All Star year.
Him holding the ball, bringing it up court is something a good PG can help with. Do think the offensive scheme is geared too much to Iso but that is on the Coach and having other players be more aggressive. Think Roae was a good example of pushing the tempo despite Randle being in the floor.

Once again, not opposed to trading Randle for BETTER players but seems like no one wanting him gone is suggesting that. More like get rid of him because he pouts or to give Obi more minutes. Which may leave us with a weaker team. IMO

That's not "pouting", that's being a ****ing worthless POS to your profession, your team, your teammates, your franchise, your sport, and to the actual integrity of the game itself.

The only thing I've ever seen you do here is consistently make excuses for player's ****ty play or ****ty behavior.

"For many people, an excuse is better than an achievement because an achievement, no matter how great, leaves you having to prove yourself again in the future but an excuse can last for life."

Titi, were you spurned by Randle bro? Did he hurt your feeling because he yelled at the refs? He is not a soccer player like you. There is a lot of emotion in a physical sport. Who cares that he complains to refs if he gets us to the playoffs. Is he the only good player in the NBA that does so? I could care less if he told some fans at courtside to **** off. Have you been to a professional sporting event? (not soccer) Courtside? Some of these drunk *******s deserve more than a "**** off".

So you call excuses STATS and historical data?
I will stop posting Randle's stats, the fact he was an All Start last year, the fact he was the first to get us into the playoffs since Melo, the shortsighted view to trade your best asset for unequal value, the fact we do not have anyone at his level to replace him. ie EXCUSES. I do not want to hurt your feelings. Or provoke you posting some weird fishing video.
Lets just focus on your feelings instead.

Btw. why not just point out some of his other shortcomings that have validity. Many of which several intelligent posters have brought up. Most that I agree with. Iso play. Ball handling. Lapses in defensive effort. Nah, lets trade him because he pouts. What are you his Nana?

HofstraBBall wrote:

TripleThreat wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:
If we need a better "best player" then how bout we keep him and get a better one? You are assuming a better player wants to come here or that Ramdle is keeping us from getting another star? Who and where is he coming from? I'm open to trading Randle for a "better" star player. Do you think ONE All Star on this squad will get us past the first round?

His production has been recorded. Which shows more than just two solid years. And Saying he only had two seasons in which he was a SYAR is minimizing how hard that is and the fact that makes him a really good player. Pouting to refs is definitely something he has to work on but let's not pretend MOST players hate losing and the team we had last year did a lot of it. Don't remember anyone complaining about that as an issue when he has an All Star year.
Him holding the ball, bringing it up court is something a good PG can help with. Do think the offensive scheme is geared too much to Iso but that is on the Coach and having other players be more aggressive. Think Roae was a good example of pushing the tempo despite Randle being in the floor.

Once again, not opposed to trading Randle for BETTER players but seems like no one wanting him gone is suggesting that. More like get rid of him because he pouts or to give Obi more minutes. Which may leave us with a weaker team. IMO

That's not "pouting", that's being a ****ing worthless POS to your profession, your team, your teammates, your franchise, your sport, and to the actual integrity of the game itself.

The only thing I've ever seen you do here is consistently make excuses for player's ****ty play or ****ty behavior.

"For many people, an excuse is better than an achievement because an achievement, no matter how great, leaves you having to prove yourself again in the future but an excuse can last for life."

Titi, were you spurned by Randle bro? Did he hurt your feeling because he yelled at the refs? He is not a soccer player like you. There is a lot of emotion in a physical sport. Who cares that he complains to refs if he gets us to the playoffs. Is he the only good player in the NBA that does so? I could care less if he told some fans at courtside to **** off. Have you been to a professional sporting event? (not soccer) Courtside? Some of these drunk *******s deserve more than a "**** off".

So you call excuses STATS and historical data?
I will stop posting Randle's stats, the fact he was an All Start last year, the fact he was the first to get us into the playoffs since Melo, the shortsighted view to trade your best asset for unequal value, the fact we do not have anyone at his level to replace him. ie EXCUSES. I do not want to hurt your feelings. Or provoke you posting some weird fishing video.
Lets just focus on your feelings instead.

Btw. why not just point out some of his other shortcomings that have validity. Many of which several intelligent posters have brought up. Most that I agree with. Iso play. Ball handling. Lapses in defensive effort. Nah, lets trade him because he pouts. What are you his Nana?

Amare & Felton took Knicks to playoffs!
Jason Kidd took Knicks to playoffs!
And D.Rose took Knicks to playoffs!

Randle was the Most Improve NBA Player in a Covid-19 EMPTY stadium season.
Randle put up All-Star stats being the Most minute played NBA player, but D.Rose leadership as a CLOSER won Knicks games to get Randle a ballot as an all star.

its no secret his play fell. No secret he was frustrated very early in the season. The optics did not look good. but nobody here knows the full story.

HofstraBBall wrote:

Kemet wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

TripleThreat wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:
If we need a better "best player" then how bout we keep him and get a better one? You are assuming a better player wants to come here or that Ramdle is keeping us from getting another star? Who and where is he coming from? I'm open to trading Randle for a "better" star player. Do you think ONE All Star on this squad will get us past the first round?

His production has been recorded. Which shows more than just two solid years. And Saying he only had two seasons in which he was a SYAR is minimizing how hard that is and that it makes him a very good player.

That's not "pouting", that's being a ****ing worthless POS to your profession, your team, your teammates, your franchise, your sport, and to the actual integrity of the game itself.

The only thing I've ever seen you do here is consistently make excuses."[/i]

Titi, were you spurned by Randle bro? Did he hurt your feeling because he yelled at the refs? He is not a soccer player like you. There is a lot of emotion in a physical sport. Who cares that he complains to refs if he gets us to the playoffs. Is he the only good player in the NBA that does so? I could care less if he told some fans at courtside to **** off. Have you been to a professional sporting event? (not soccer) Courtside? Some of these drunk *******s deserve more than a "**** off".

So you call excuses STATS and historical data?
I will stop posting Randle's stats, the fact he was an All Start last year, the fact he was the first to get us into the playoffs since Melo, the shortsighted view to trade your best asset for unequal value, the fact we do not have anyone at his level to replace him. ie EXCUSES. I do not want to hurt your feelings. Or provoke you posting some weird fishing video.
Lets just focus on your feelings instead.

Btw. why not just point out some of his other shortcomings that have validity. Many of which several intelligent posters have brought up. Most that I agree with. Iso play. Ball handling. Lapses in defensive effort. Nah, lets trade him because he pouts. What are you his Nana?

Amare & Felton took Knicks to playoffs!
Jason Kidd took Knicks to playoffs!
And D.Rose took Knicks to playoffs!

Randle was the Most Improve NBA Player in a Covid-19 EMPTY stadium season.
Randle put up All-Star stats being the Most minute played NBA player, but D.Rose leadership as a CLOSER won Knicks games to get Randle a ballot as an all star.

What up Kemet.
Funny how you leave our favorite Knick of All time when mentioning why Knicks made the playoffs with Stat, Felton and Kids.Last I checked we did not move on from Stat or Kid when they were 27 and healthy because we wanted to give Pablo or Renaldo Blackman more minutes. And if you take away Randle from 20/21, Rose's play would have propelled us to a 30 game win total that year.

How bout we stop this teenage whinny crap about trading Randle because he pouts and complains to refs. Or the fan armchair GM idea that a third year player who can't shoot is a lock at replacing a perennial 20/10 guy who took an okay team to the playoffs. I trust the FO/coaches to work this out , do what's best amd not do the **** opinionated knee jerk fans would do. I believe that is to hopefully get Randle a good PG, another top player and work with him on his shortcomings. Which includes consistent defensive effort and a more consistent three. Along with some coaching adjustments to lessen Iso and ball handling. Just do not feel we should give up on him after one okay year and for peanuts. If we are talking Mitchell, Dejounte Murray type players than bye bye Randle.

HofstraBBall wrote: So you call excuses STATS and historical data?
I will stop posting Randle's stats, the fact he was an All Start last year, the fact he was the first to get us into the playoffs since Melo, the shortsighted view to trade your best asset for unequal value, the fact we do not have anyone at his level to replace him. ie EXCUSES. I do not want to hurt your feelings. Or provoke you posting some weird fishing video.
Lets just focus on your feelings instead.

Btw. why not just point out some of his other shortcomings that have validity. Many of which several intelligent posters have brought up. Most that I agree with. Iso play. Ball handling. Lapses in defensive effort. Nah, lets trade him because he pouts. What are you his Nana?

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/ny-julius-randle-frustration-problem-20220329-ywwdhulcubevjjm6e6x4gflre4-story.html

Knicks need to stop pretending the Julius Randle problem doesn’t exist
By Stefan Bondy
New York Daily News
Mar 29, 2022 at 1:19 pm

Skeptics around the league don’t believe Randle can succeed as a second, third or fourth option, which would have to be his status on a title contender. Even today, without another All-Star on the roster, Randle’s grip on the featured role is slipping away because of Barrett, who is commanding the ball and notice of his teammates while building toward a max extension in the offseason.

“Right now, he’s the high guy,” center Mitchell Robinson said of the 21-year-old Barrett. “You got to feed him. We’re winning, he’s eating, everybody is eating.”

.....The roster construction is flawed and the Knicks removed two of Randle’s good friends — Reggie Bullock and Elfrid Payton — from last season’s squad. But these are poor excuses for Randle’s season and his ugly moments. Even if he can never again shoot 3-pointers as efficiently as his magical 2020-21 season, there’s a place for Randle with an attitude adjustment and greater self-awareness.

He’s been enabled along the way this season whether it’s James Dolan eating a fine or Thibodeau pretending like the destructive behavior doesn’t exist. If you let things go too far unchecked, you get Stephon Marbury. Somebody with the Knicks needs to give Randle a reality check.

foosballnick wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

Philc1 wrote:There’s only 2 paths:

A) Randle plays better next season, Knicks overall are better and get the 8th or 9th seed

B) Randle continues to be a ball stopper on offense, Knicks win less games next year, he gets Thibs fired after demanding a trade and eventually just getting a buyout

So your thought is that the Knicks are potentially going to opt to have $28m per year dead cap hit on a guy 20/10/5 guy who is under 30.

They’ve done it before why not again

So every situation is the same then?

Noah was 32 with career already on significant down-trend and who only played ~22 minutes per game at 7 pts /6 rebounds / 2 assists. He had one year left ~$19M (and people complain about EF's contract!!) which was stretched over 3 years at $6+M per year dead cap hit.

Randle is still in his prime at 35+ minutes (20/10/5) and if stretched after the upcoming season would be at $107M - which would mean dead cap space of $15+M per season over 7 years.

Perhaps some Knicks fans need to learn to separate prudent basketball business decisions from their own butthurt views based on a sometimes overly emotional and frustrated player giving them the finger.

Got a bad feeling the Randle contract next year starts to make the Noah contract look like a cake walk

If we let Mitch walk, don’t fix pg and are stuck with Randle trying to be a point forward in half court for 82 games next season could get very ugly early

Noah physically broke down and did not improve nor did he work on his craft much. Randle has a work ethic and track record that showed a very high end year to year improvement. Last year might have been more between the ears. Something that is hard for you to relate to as you redundantly demonstrate.
Randle at 27 with the exception of his rookie has shown durability.
He can dial back his 20-10 and still be a great contract if he can change his **** face attitude.
Thibs is very much part of how he is used. Much of this falls on him also.
As for Mitch you make it out like the center of 37 win team is the key to our success and like no player every walks away from a team uncompensated.
Last year about every reasonable FA was sign and trade. we don’t get full value in return, but thats par for the course.

You fell victim to it as well - LOL. It really is difficult not to respond to silly empty one liners.

You guys are right. Randle was amazing last year. That’s why we finished 8 games below .500 and missed the playoffs - and he’s only made the playoffs 1 out of 8 years in the nba. Is that an empty one liner?

Its like debating with a child. Try to stay on point. No one said that Randle was amazing. We are shaking out heads at your one liner posts that Randle has the worst contract in the NBA, worse than Noah, and he should be cut and stretched.

Yes, your previous post is essentially an empty one liner again. No wonder they kicked your butt off the Jets board. SMH.

Name me a worse contract in the nba currently than Randle

If it’s all empty one liners you should have no problem doing it. They kicked me off the jets board because they are a bunch of snowflake cancel culture clowns who can’t accept being wrong about Zach Wilson

Philc1 wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

Philc1 wrote:There’s only 2 paths:

A) Randle plays better next season, Knicks overall are better and get the 8th or 9th seed

B) Randle continues to be a ball stopper on offense, Knicks win less games next year, he gets Thibs fired after demanding a trade and eventually just getting a buyout

So your thought is that the Knicks are potentially going to opt to have $28m per year dead cap hit on a guy 20/10/5 guy who is under 30.

They’ve done it before why not again

So every situation is the same then?

Noah was 32 with career already on significant down-trend and who only played ~22 minutes per game at 7 pts /6 rebounds / 2 assists. He had one year left ~$19M (and people complain about EF's contract!!) which was stretched over 3 years at $6+M per year dead cap hit.

Randle is still in his prime at 35+ minutes (20/10/5) and if stretched after the upcoming season would be at $107M - which would mean dead cap space of $15+M per season over 7 years.

Perhaps some Knicks fans need to learn to separate prudent basketball business decisions from their own butthurt views based on a sometimes overly emotional and frustrated player giving them the finger.

Got a bad feeling the Randle contract next year starts to make the Noah contract look like a cake walk

If we let Mitch walk, don’t fix pg and are stuck with Randle trying to be a point forward in half court for 82 games next season could get very ugly early

Noah physically broke down and did not improve nor did he work on his craft much. Randle has a work ethic and track record that showed a very high end year to year improvement. Last year might have been more between the ears. Something that is hard for you to relate to as you redundantly demonstrate.
Randle at 27 with the exception of his rookie has shown durability.
He can dial back his 20-10 and still be a great contract if he can change his **** face attitude.
Thibs is very much part of how he is used. Much of this falls on him also.
As for Mitch you make it out like the center of 37 win team is the key to our success and like no player every walks away from a team uncompensated.
Last year about every reasonable FA was sign and trade. we don’t get full value in return, but thats par for the course.

You fell victim to it as well - LOL. It really is difficult not to respond to silly empty one liners.

You guys are right. Randle was amazing last year. That’s why we finished 8 games below .500 and missed the playoffs - and he’s only made the playoffs 1 out of 8 years in the nba. Is that an empty one liner?

Its like debating with a child. Try to stay on point. No one said that Randle was amazing. We are shaking out heads at your one liner posts that Randle has the worst contract in the NBA, worse than Noah, and he should be cut and stretched.

Yes, your previous post is essentially an empty one liner again. No wonder they kicked your butt off the Jets board. SMH.

Name me a worse contract in the nba currently than Randle

If it’s all empty one liners you should have no problem doing it. They kicked me off the jets board because they are a bunch of snowflake cancel culture clowns who can’t accept being wrong about Zach Wilson

I think you got booted for other very obvious reasons.

Philc1 wrote:

Name me a worse contract in the nba currently than Randle

If it’s all empty one liners you should have no problem doing it. They kicked me off the jets board because they are a bunch of snowflake cancel culture clowns who can’t accept being wrong about Zach Wilson

The beauty of the John Wall contract is that it makes it a 29 team league. It's impossible to have a competitive squad with that contract.

The Ben Simmons contract is also a poison pill until proven otherwise. I think the Nets get blown up mainly because of the frustration around it.

Tobias Harris is also a no brainer worse one. He's a 4the banana getting paid like a top one. It was pretty funny reading all the Big 3 in Philly articles talking about Joel Maxey and Harden.

KP, the man of glass, Duncan Robinson, 19 million for 19 minutes in a 7 game series, Markelle Fultz, maybe he will turn it around?next season for the past 4 years- Phil the list goes on and on.

Oh how about John Collins? 100 million for the invisible man.

HofstraBBall wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

TripleThreat wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:
If we need a better "best player" then how bout we keep him and get a better one? You are assuming a better player wants to come here or that Ramdle is keeping us from getting another star? Who and where is he coming from? I'm open to trading Randle for a "better" star player. Do you think ONE All Star on this squad will get us past the first round?

His production has been recorded. Which shows more than just two solid years. And Saying he only had two seasons in which he was a SYAR is minimizing how hard that is and the fact that makes him a really good player. Pouting to refs is definitely something he has to work on but let's not pretend MOST players hate losing and the team we had last year did a lot of it. Don't remember anyone complaining about that as an issue when he has an All Star year.
Him holding the ball, bringing it up court is something a good PG can help with. Do think the offensive scheme is geared too much to Iso but that is on the Coach and having other players be more aggressive. Think Roae was a good example of pushing the tempo despite Randle being in the floor.

Once again, not opposed to trading Randle for BETTER players but seems like no one wanting him gone is suggesting that. More like get rid of him because he pouts or to give Obi more minutes. Which may leave us with a weaker team. IMO

That's not "pouting", that's being a ****ing worthless POS to your profession, your team, your teammates, your franchise, your sport, and to the actual integrity of the game itself.

The only thing I've ever seen you do here is consistently make excuses for player's ****ty play or ****ty behavior.

"For many people, an excuse is better than an achievement because an achievement, no matter how great, leaves you having to prove yourself again in the future but an excuse can last for life."

Titi, were you spurned by Randle bro? Did he hurt your feeling because he yelled at the refs? He is not a soccer player like you. There is a lot of emotion in a physical sport. Who cares that he complains to refs if he gets us to the playoffs. Is he the only good player in the NBA that does so? I could care less if he told some fans at courtside to **** off. Have you been to a professional sporting event? (not soccer) Courtside? Some of these drunk *******s deserve more than a "**** off".

So you call excuses STATS and historical data?
I will stop posting Randle's stats, the fact he was an All Start last year, the fact he was the first to get us into the playoffs since Melo, the shortsighted view to trade your best asset for unequal value, the fact we do not have anyone at his level to replace him. ie EXCUSES. I do not want to hurt your feelings. Or provoke you posting some weird fishing video.
Lets just focus on your feelings instead.

Btw. why not just point out some of his other shortcomings that have validity. Many of which several intelligent posters have brought up. Most that I agree with. Iso play. Ball handling. Lapses in defensive effort. Nah, lets trade him because he pouts. What are you his Nana?

You guys act like criticizing Randle is worse than Knicks fans bashing Ewing in the 90’s. Ewing got us to the playoffs maybe 13 separate times, multiple playoff runs and 2x nba finals appearances.

Randle has gotten us to a playoff once, he’s only ever taken a team to a playoffs once his entire career, his ball stopping ISO stuff is obviously preventing us from becoming a full court press team which our younger roster is better suited for and moving his contract in a trade would be more difficult then Bernie Madoff trying to sell mutual funds in 2022

Post ONE thread in which anyone on here is comparing Randle to Ewing!
Posting what Randle has accomplished and saying he should not be traded for peanuts is not "acting like criticizing Randle is worse than criticizing Ewing"

He is preventing us from becoming a "full court press team"? wtf? Do you even know what this is? Can you name any team in the NBA implementing a full court press? You make no sense.

Pretty sure he means that Randle plays at such a slow tempo compared to the majority of the other producing Knicks. Pitino ain't coming back but we do play snail ball.

Nalod wrote:This notion that Thibs took the job, knew the type of player he is, and some of us here think randle openly defies his coach over two seasons is comical.
That our second unit could sustain that pace and style of play under pressure is comical.
The fantasy that even in the last two games IQ and Obi started and put up big numbers would be sample enough to change the team schematic entirley is funny.

Why the team slowed down this year? Good defense creates opportunities. Simple. Miami engine is defense. GSW, for all the offensive firepower is rooted on its defense to create the pace. Similar for celtics. Slog down low score is one thing, but these teams are not like that. They put up buckets.

Thibs has shown a desire to create a running second unit and we think he does not understand what he has done? That Randle is a slog?

Teams need a half court offense. The “Downhill” thing runs out of room in crunch time.

What do we know for next season? The roster? Nope. Plans for Randle and RJ? If the design is to go smaller you got good pieces. OBI can run. Is it that simple that if Randle plays he negates that? Coach: “Pass the ball”. Do we think Randle is defient?

He fights with is coaches: We have one video. Doe he doe it in practice? Game after game?
He did not pick up a player? Looked to me he turned his back. Even if so, how many times does he “Turned his back on teammates”?
He told fans to **** off? No, he told a reporter to.
Am I a total fanboy? Not really, but Im not that impressionable or think I have the inside info based on speculative blog talk.

What I see is not a player who makes the playoffs or not. Its stupid to ignore that a roster has 15 guys on it and treat him like its not a team game. It is.
year one with knicks he was a true PF and physically dominant with bad turn over stats. Year two, under Thibs “we hear” and he surged with all NBA status. His turnovers reduced and 40% long range shooting was great. Year three, he put up empty stats as team regressed and confusion hit. Early lack of chemistry with EF not making his cuts forcing Randle to hold the ball longer. Kemba inconsistancy. Two new starters and while the record was not awful, the team was not flowing. Also RJ was sick and did not come out of it until January. By then Kemba was grounded, RJ was given the keys, and many of you think armed with a big contrct Randles issues were mostly about losing stature/jealousy as the primary reason? With no knowledge of it?

You make way too much sense.

The biggest issue for me is the many blind alternatives. ie. Let Obi start. Trade Randle for a draft pick. As you mentioned what is the sample size of success for those alternatives? Is there a trade that is on the table where we can get DM or another young star? Are we able to get someone of better value for EF. All I have heard is dump Randle. Trade him for Brunson? Give unproven first or second year guys the reins.

I have commented on the call for "a fast paced offense" often. Mentioning that the NBA is a ISO/PnR half court set league. Especially in crunch time. And as you mentioned, running/fast pace is a result of good defense. Would it be fun to watch a team run up and down like the Paul Westhead Nuggets. Sure. But they never won much. Also, most NBA coaches prefer and run iso/PnR plays since they cut down on turnovers and can take advantage of mismatches. I also agree that Thibs has shown to be able to coach according to the personnel and has implemented a faster pace offense with the second unit.

Think we wait and see what comes up. Who we are able to get in the draft. What options present themselves at the start of FA. Open to trading anyone for better pieces. Open to going all in on yet another youth movement. Not open to BS talk about get rid of this guy for someone's feel good hope. I have seen too many give Frank, Knox, Hill, Shump, Early, Fields the reins cries to trust the Obi, Deuce cries.

foosballnick wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

Philc1 wrote:There’s only 2 paths:

A) Randle plays better next season, Knicks overall are better and get the 8th or 9th seed

B) Randle continues to be a ball stopper on offense, Knicks win less games next year, he gets Thibs fired after demanding a trade and eventually just getting a buyout

So your thought is that the Knicks are potentially going to opt to have $28m per year dead cap hit on a guy 20/10/5 guy who is under 30.

They’ve done it before why not again

So every situation is the same then?

Noah was 32 with career already on significant down-trend and who only played ~22 minutes per game at 7 pts /6 rebounds / 2 assists. He had one year left ~$19M (and people complain about EF's contract!!) which was stretched over 3 years at $6+M per year dead cap hit.

Randle is still in his prime at 35+ minutes (20/10/5) and if stretched after the upcoming season would be at $107M - which would mean dead cap space of $15+M per season over 7 years.

Perhaps some Knicks fans need to learn to separate prudent basketball business decisions from their own butthurt views based on a sometimes overly emotional and frustrated player giving them the finger.

Got a bad feeling the Randle contract next year starts to make the Noah contract look like a cake walk

If we let Mitch walk, don’t fix pg and are stuck with Randle trying to be a point forward in half court for 82 games next season could get very ugly early

Noah physically broke down and did not improve nor did he work on his craft much. Randle has a work ethic and track record that showed a very high end year to year improvement. Last year might have been more between the ears. Something that is hard for you to relate to as you redundantly demonstrate.
Randle at 27 with the exception of his rookie has shown durability.
He can dial back his 20-10 and still be a great contract if he can change his **** face attitude.
Thibs is very much part of how he is used. Much of this falls on him also.
As for Mitch you make it out like the center of 37 win team is the key to our success and like no player every walks away from a team uncompensated.
Last year about every reasonable FA was sign and trade. we don’t get full value in return, but thats par for the course.

You fell victim to it as well - LOL. It really is difficult not to respond to silly empty one liners.

You guys are right. Randle was amazing last year. That’s why we finished 8 games below .500 and missed the playoffs - and he’s only made the playoffs 1 out of 8 years in the nba. Is that an empty one liner?

Its like debating with a child. Try to stay on point. No one said that Randle was amazing. We are shaking out heads at your one liner posts that Randle has the worst contract in the NBA, worse than Noah, and he should be cut and stretched.

Yes, your previous post is essentially an empty one liner again. No wonder they kicked your butt off the Jets board. SMH.

Name me a worse contract in the nba currently than Randle

If it’s all empty one liners you should have no problem doing it. They kicked me off the jets board because they are a bunch of snowflake cancel culture clowns who can’t accept being wrong about Zach Wilson

Here are a few......

Tobias Harris will make $37.6 million next season and $39.2 million in 2023-24.

Gordon Hayward (31 years old and injury prone) - $30.1 million next year and $31.5 million in 2023-24. Hayward only played in 44 games last season and has dealt with a foot injury this year.

Derrick White - four-year, $73 million contract - 14.2 /3.5 / 5.7 - less than 30% from 3 on a losing team - this would be like paying Elf to play 30 minutes a night at $17M+ per year

Porzingis - enough said in the middle of a five-year, $158 million contract

Jonathan Isaac (who?? will he ever get on the floor) - due $17.4 million in each of the next three seasons.

Kevin Love - will make 28.9 million next year at the end of a terrible 4 year contract

Davis Bertans - will make $16 million next season and $17 million during the 2023-24 campaign. The final year of the deal (2024-25) is fully guaranteed for $5 million. Currently playing 15 mpg and averaging 32% from 3.

Westbrook - 33 years old @ $47 million next season

John Wall $47.4 M next year at 31 years old

Markelle Fultz - guaranteed $17.5M through 2024-25

This should be made a sticky because others including myself have done this for him but he densely does not absorb things and repeats daft limited content.
He has numerously said he was booted from Jetsnation because "The snowflakes were wrong about Zach Wilson and he was correct". It think its just his way conversing from the experience.
Why is it bothersome? To promote inaccurate statements derails good conversation from elevating. or, ****heads are annoying?